Some of the ignorance surrounding Gaza is mind boggling, takes so little time to actually find the truth. What Egypt has done will be the start of the end, and it won't be peace!!
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
cherrygc: It's great news that Gaza concentration camp has finally a small window opened
Another one who has no idea of what went on inside concentration camps. There is no comparison to the horrors of the death camps.
As for the Egyptians opening the border,son the weapons will flow in and Israel will have no choice but to defend themselves against attack by using unrestrained defensive measures. Unlike some fools I know a lot of people are going to die and I do not see a positive in this.
Albertaghost: Another one who has no idea of what went on inside concentration camps. There is no comparison to the horrors of the death camps.
As for the Egyptians opening the border,son the weapons will flow in and Israel will have no choice but to defend themselves against attack by using unrestrained defensive measures. Unlike some fools I know a lot of people are going to die and I do not see a positive in this.
They blab,and blab and blab,yet have never been closer to a Survivor of the Warsaw Ghetto,or a Campsurvivor than maybe a hundred miles,let alone talked to one! They haven't got a Clew! Yet they claim they want Peace!
Well what ever way you look at it from an Israeli point of view it is now a failure. The Gaza people will be energised by their ability to survive a five year blockade. They watched as the election victory of Hamas was quashed at the behest of Israel and the United States with the collusion of Fatah. How contraditory of two nations who harp on about the blessings of democracy. If Egypt were a small country I think Israel would sieze a buffer area just like thy did in Lebanon. I think Netanyahoo wants to string out talks of peace until such times as there is enough settlements to make Palestinian statehood impossible. This was Menachim Begin's dream and Bibi is the leader of the same party. Then he will have to settle for the only pragmatic solution which will be a one state solution for all.
Conrad73: They blab,and blab and blab,yet have never been closer to a Survivor of the Warsaw Ghetto,or a Campsurvivor than maybe a hundred miles,let alone talked to one! They haven't got a Clew! Yet they claim they want Peace!
So now that all diplomacy has failed,, all out war is inevitable.
As I said, a lot of people are going to die, almost all of them Palestinians.
Yes, Lots of Israelis will die when all the suicide bombers attack....... No matter what they will have to talk in the end... Just like northern Ireland... And when the US stops it financial support or at least reduces it... then the area will get real interesting
So now that all diplomacy has failed,, all out war is inevitable.
As I said, a lot of people are going to die, almost all of them Palestinians.
I can't see a military solution being in Israel's long term interest. But the settler movement which is part of the Goverment of Israel want all Palestinian land to fullfill their vision. I think you will have an uprising in the occupied territories similar to the one's we see in the other Arab States. This will follow the declaration of Statehood by Palestine in September which will be vetoed by the United States at the behest of Israel.
gleneagle: Well what ever way you look at it from an Israeli point of view it is now a failure. The Gaza people will be energised by their ability to survive a five year blockade. They watched as the election victory of Hamas was quashed at the behest of Israel and the United States with the collusion of Fatah. How contraditory of two nations who harp on about the blessings of democracy. If Egypt were a small country I think Israel would sieze a buffer area just like thy did in Lebanon. I think Netanyahoo wants to string out talks of peace until such times as there is enough settlements to make Palestinian statehood impossible. This was Menachim Begin's dream and Bibi is the leader of the same party. Then he will have to settle for the only pragmatic solution which will be a one state solution for all.
gleneagle: Well what ever way you look at it from an Israeli point of view it is now a failure. The Gaza people will be energised by their ability to survive a five year blockade. They watched as the election victory of Hamas was quashed at the behest of Israel and the United States with the collusion of Fatah. How contraditory of two nations who harp on about the blessings of democracy. If Egypt were a small country I think Israel would sieze a buffer area just like thy did in Lebanon. I think Netanyahoo wants to string out talks of peace until such times as there is enough settlements to make Palestinian statehood impossible. This was Menachim Begin's dream and Bibi is the leader of the same party. Then he will have to settle for the only pragmatic solution which will be a one state solution for all.
Funny,Mouammar thought so too,about a One-State Solution! So,after sixtysome years,you gonna scrap 181,dissolve Israel,and tell two enemies to live in Peace from now on? What Planet are you from?
Conrad73: Funny,Mouammar thought so too,about a One-State Solution! So,after sixtysome years,you gonna scrap 181,dissolve Israel,and tell two enemies to live in Peace from now on? What Planet are you from?
That's why i cannot understand Israel moving the solution in that direction. The trouble with Israel is that it wants all the land and peace as well. Thats called having your cake and eating it. The more intransigent Israel is now the bigger the problem they create for future generations of Israelis.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
I can't see a military solution being in Israel's long term interest./quote]
I don't either but massive military reaction is exactly what is going to happen when effective modern weapons are fired into Israel causing hundreds if not thousands of deaths.
The reaction will be all out war and as I said, one hell of a lot of Palestinian deaths.
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