Dating out of your financial and/or socioeconomic class... (90)
Ambrose2007: I'm visiting my mom next week, and she's threatening to introduce me to some very well-to-do widows - well enough to doing to spend the cost of my car on a quick shopping trip and some coffee at Starbucks.
I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...
I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...
gah. story of my life. dating up. not by choice. just how it went. its challenging is all i can say.
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g33kgurl: gah. story of my life. dating up. not by choice. just how it went. its challenging is all i can say.
You're saying, G, that your guys have been in a (much?) higher income bracket? If so, I thought women were supposed to like that? Isn't it a female fantasy to be wined and dined at fancy restaurants by guys (who later offer you a day trip to the Bahamas?).
Or am I misunderstanding you here?
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You're cute so Im sure that will override and compensate almost anything!
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As long as a guy can support himself and lives within his means I think that is all that matters - to me at least!
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whowhatwherewhen: You're cute so Im sure that will override and compensate almost anything!
Heh. Well, that's what I'm hoping for.
But seriously...being physically attractive can only take you so far, I'm thinking. I could see a lady of means enjoying a guy as an entertaining and short-lived diversion, but in the long run...?
I guess that's part of my question, though: How much could other factors override one's lack of an impressive bottom line?
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whowhatwherewhen: You're cute so Im sure that will override and compensate almost anything!
thank you.
let's keep this on the QT ok. 
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summja: As long as a guy can support himself and lives within his means I think that is all that matters - to me at least!
So you're wealthy and you want to eat out at a pricey restaurant. How does that play out with your relatively poor date?
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BB_snickers: thank you. let's keep this on the QT ok.
I can't believe you just jumped in and stole my compliment, A!
In my current self-pitying state I need all the "suga" (sp?) I can get, yanno?
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Am I the only one here who wants to throttle that damn robot?
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Ambrose2007: I'm visiting my mom next week, and she's threatening to introduce me to some very well-to-do widows - well enough to doing to spend the cost of my car on a quick shopping trip and some coffee at Starbucks.
I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...
I'm not a lady...well not tonight any way ...However .....You really should not be concerned with your position in life and how a potential see you....if someone dates you then we all hope it is for the right reasons ....and there is only one way to find that out ...besides would you WANT to date someone that makes you feel less for your income....I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...
Besides I know a lot of them rich girls like to slum it now and then...
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I think when you pick somewhere to eat you should think about whoever is paying budget. Although pricey restaurants are not my thing anyway. I think I have had better picnics, and great hole in the wall dinner dates then somewhere overly pretentious.
I get your point though and I would say if a woman is wealthy and wishes to go out for a pricey meal that her date cannot afford she pays, or it's a rare occurrence that happens every once in a while. Still would expect flowers though :p
I get your point though and I would say if a woman is wealthy and wishes to go out for a pricey meal that her date cannot afford she pays, or it's a rare occurrence that happens every once in a while. Still would expect flowers though :p
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Ambrose2007: I can't believe you just jumped in and stole my compliment, A!
In my current self-pitying state I need all the "suga" (sp?) I can get, yanno?
In my current self-pitying state I need all the "suga" (sp?) I can get, yanno?
Awww, you guys!
Seriously though. I have been out with guys of 'means' While they thought nothing of it to go to an expensive restaurant, I on the other hand, felt uncomfortable. I know its possibly different for men and women but, I have always been independant and while I am happy to let someone else pay on occassion, I still prefer to chip in.Most women wouldnt class you as a 'toyboy' because of your age so, you are more likely to have a chance at a long term relationship with a woman of means.
AND Im sure your Dear Mother wouldnt set you up to fall would she?
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summja: I think when you pick somewhere to eat you should think about whoever is paying budget. Although pricey restaurants are not my thing anyway. I think I have had better picnics, and great hole in the wall dinner dates then somewhere overly pretentious.
I get your point though and I would say if a woman is wealthy and wishes to go out for a pricey meal that her date cannot afford she pays, or it's a rare occurrence that happens every once in a while. Still would expect flowers though :p
I get your point though and I would say if a woman is wealthy and wishes to go out for a pricey meal that her date cannot afford she pays, or it's a rare occurrence that happens every once in a while. Still would expect flowers though :p
I wonder if some form of "sweat equity" might work in exchange?
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whowhatwherewhen: Awww, you guys! Seriously though. I have been out with guys of 'means' While they thought nothing of it to go to an expensive restaurant, I on the other hand, felt uncomfortable. I know its possibly different for men and women but, I have always been independant and while I am happy to let someone else pay on occassion, I still prefer to chip in.
Most women wouldnt class you as a 'toyboy' because of your age so, you are more likely to have a chance at a long term relationship with a woman of means.
AND Im sure your Dear Mother wouldnt set you up to fall would she?
Most women wouldnt class you as a 'toyboy' because of your age so, you are more likely to have a chance at a long term relationship with a woman of means.
AND Im sure your Dear Mother wouldnt set you up to fall would she?
Heh. She might do it just to teach me a lesson.
No, I'm sure she'd consider all angles. I wonder how many other women don't feel entirely comfortable being wined and dined in an expensive way? That's interesting, WWWW.
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Ambrose2007: I'm visiting my mom next week, and she's threatening to introduce me to some very well-to-do widows - well enough to doing to spend the cost of my car on a quick shopping trip and some coffee at Starbucks.
I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...
I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...
I know for myself even if a guy was in a higher financial bracket to my i'd still rather that when we went out we were doing something we both enjoyed. As for first and subsequent dates (the getting to know each other phase) i'd much prefer it if he was able to bring me to something that enjoyed doing and showed me who he is as opposed to what he has/has not got...than show me how much he can spend on getting stuff or wining and dining me which means nothing to him.
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I would like to agree with ".if someone dates you then we all hope it is for the right reasons ....and there is only one way to find that out ...besides would you WANT to date someone that makes you feel less for your income...." and a lot of times (at least in my experience) guys who are financially well off are often egotistical, and treat everyone as lesser. I would go for a poor nice guy over a rich jerk any day of the week!
If I was a wealthy woman I would be concerned about emasculating a guy and making him feel like he was incapable of providing, so I think everyone has those insecurities, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
Also a note of addition to my previous post any woman who would expect you to pay for a lavish meal when you can't afford it shows little class in my opinion.
If I was a wealthy woman I would be concerned about emasculating a guy and making him feel like he was incapable of providing, so I think everyone has those insecurities, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
Also a note of addition to my previous post any woman who would expect you to pay for a lavish meal when you can't afford it shows little class in my opinion.
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summja: I would like to agree with ".if someone dates you then we all hope it is for the right reasons ....and there is only one way to find that out ...besides would you WANT to date someone that makes you feel less for your income...." and a lot of times (at least in my experience) guys who are financially well off are often egotistical, and treat everyone as lesser. I would go for a poor nice guy over a rich jerk any day of the week!
If I was a wealthy woman I would be concerned about emasculating a guy and making him feel like he was incapable of providing, so I think everyone has those insecurities, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
Also a note of addition to my previous post any woman who would expect you to pay for a lavish meal when you can't afford it shows little class in my opinion.
Thanks .....but you don't agree with the part about rich girls liking to slum it sometimes...If I was a wealthy woman I would be concerned about emasculating a guy and making him feel like he was incapable of providing, so I think everyone has those insecurities, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
Also a note of addition to my previous post any woman who would expect you to pay for a lavish meal when you can't afford it shows little class in my opinion.
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summja: I would like to agree with ".if someone dates you then we all hope it is for the right reasons ....and there is only one way to find that out ...besides would you WANT to date someone that makes you feel less for your income...." and a lot of times (at least in my experience) guys who are financially well off are often egotistical, and treat everyone as lesser. I would go for a poor nice guy over a rich jerk any day of the week!
If I was a wealthy woman I would be concerned about emasculating a guy and making him feel like he was incapable of providing, so I think everyone has those insecurities, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
Also a note of addition to my previous post any woman who would expect you to pay for a lavish meal when you can't afford it shows little class in my opinion.
If I was a wealthy woman I would be concerned about emasculating a guy and making him feel like he was incapable of providing, so I think everyone has those insecurities, no matter which side of the fence you are on.
Also a note of addition to my previous post any woman who would expect you to pay for a lavish meal when you can't afford it shows little class in my opinion.
Agreed. But I'm more interested in the question of how appealing or interested in a lady of means would be regarding a poorer gentleman. Once we agreed on a date or get-together, I wouldn't expect emasculating or otherwise denigrating behavior (unless she were willing to loan her BMW out to me for a few months, of course!
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I can just imagine driving up to their 1 - 2 million dollar home and parking beside their BMW in my 12 year old Volvo with its rust spots, droopy muffler, and drooling oil pan.
As I thought about that I began to wonder just how women view men of relatively lesser means. I know women respect and perhaps even crave financial success in men, and I don't blame them at all for that. But I'm far from sure how important a man's financial bottom-line is to a woman versus other traits.
Ladies (because I think this is FAR less important to men) - how do you feel about dating or loving someone who has less money/property than you, and whose lifestyle is modest (to put it mildly)?
To me it does seem somewhat intimidating to be expected to wine and dine a wealthy lady...