Speaking of Controlling and Manipulating - What Is It About Women and CATS??? (106)
Ambrose2007: Heres something I've thought of several times before that was recently echoed brilliantly by a friend offlist.
Cats and ladies...there's something about that connection, particularly in one example that comes to mind...that's always intrigued and puzzled me. Cats by and large are surely the most controlling of creatures: they're aloof when they want, and demanding in an utterly selfish way when they want attention or food or affection or whatever. In a thread I authored some time back "Sleeping With Cats," many of lady respondents confirmed that cats had them "curled around their clawed little paws." Cats, according to many of the women, got their way, and the women were happy to give in to them.
Now here's the quandary: These very same women often appear to be the most man-independent types - I mean, they proclaim their independence of men and yet at the same declare themselves to be happily dominated by their cats. Sometimes I've noticed myself doing something rather similar to a cat - in effect, pawing at the blinds to get love and attention from a female - but while that earns the cat only more dominance and affection and love, when I've tried it I get slapped down like a pesky fly on a meathook.
Go freakin' Figure...
Cats and ladies...there's something about that connection, particularly in one example that comes to mind...that's always intrigued and puzzled me. Cats by and large are surely the most controlling of creatures: they're aloof when they want, and demanding in an utterly selfish way when they want attention or food or affection or whatever. In a thread I authored some time back "Sleeping With Cats," many of lady respondents confirmed that cats had them "curled around their clawed little paws." Cats, according to many of the women, got their way, and the women were happy to give in to them.
Now here's the quandary: These very same women often appear to be the most man-independent types - I mean, they proclaim their independence of men and yet at the same declare themselves to be happily dominated by their cats. Sometimes I've noticed myself doing something rather similar to a cat - in effect, pawing at the blinds to get love and attention from a female - but while that earns the cat only more dominance and affection and love, when I've tried it I get slapped down like a pesky fly on a meathook.
Go freakin' Figure...
I think its because we know that we have the freedom and the power to NOT take care of the cat. We just dont wield it.
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Hmmm, if I knew the answer to that, I'd be rich 
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2intrigued: Hmmm, if I knew the answer to that, I'd be rich
Well, if it's any consolation, Intriqued, you LOOK rich! 
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Ambrose2007: Well, if it's any consolation, Intriqued, you LOOK rich!
If I could only lick my brow like a cat can!
Ah, the feminine rewards that would await me... 
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Ambrose2007: Well, if it's any consolation, Intriqued, you LOOK rich!
Yeah, "rich" and somewhat demented
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whowhatwherewhen: Hmmm, interesting. I would think that in a relationship, you are required to care for and feed your partner and anything else you can do that shows you love them. Humans are human (mostly) and animals are animals. We have different relationships going on with them.
Well, I don't want to push this analogy too far. Sure, there are differences...I think. For one, I suspect some of my lady friends may have more respect for their cats...consider them to be family more than they would consider me to be.
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2intrigued: Yeah, "rich" and somewhat demented
Don't the two go hand in hand, Intrigue? I wish!
It's tough to be only demented. 
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Ambrose2007: Heres something I've thought of several times before that was recently echoed brilliantly by a friend offlist.
Cats and ladies...there's something about that connection, particularly in one example that comes to mind...that's always intrigued and puzzled me. Cats by and large are surely the most controlling of creatures: they're aloof when they want, and demanding in an utterly selfish way when they want attention or food or affection or whatever. In a thread I authored some time back "Sleeping With Cats," many of lady respondents confirmed that cats had them "curled around their clawed little paws." Cats, according to many of the women, got their way, and the women were happy to give in to them.
Now here's the quandary: These very same women often appear to be the most man-independent types - I mean, they proclaim their independence of men and yet at the same declare themselves to be happily dominated by their cats. Sometimes I've noticed myself doing something rather similar to a cat - in effect, pawing at the blinds to get love and attention from a female - but while that earns the cat only more dominance and affection and love, when I've tried it I get slapped down like a pesky fly on a meathook.
Go freakin' Figure...
Cats and ladies...there's something about that connection, particularly in one example that comes to mind...that's always intrigued and puzzled me. Cats by and large are surely the most controlling of creatures: they're aloof when they want, and demanding in an utterly selfish way when they want attention or food or affection or whatever. In a thread I authored some time back "Sleeping With Cats," many of lady respondents confirmed that cats had them "curled around their clawed little paws." Cats, according to many of the women, got their way, and the women were happy to give in to them.
Now here's the quandary: These very same women often appear to be the most man-independent types - I mean, they proclaim their independence of men and yet at the same declare themselves to be happily dominated by their cats. Sometimes I've noticed myself doing something rather similar to a cat - in effect, pawing at the blinds to get love and attention from a female - but while that earns the cat only more dominance and affection and love, when I've tried it I get slapped down like a pesky fly on a meathook.
Go freakin' Figure...
I for one despise cats// they are mean and sneaky.. I am a dog person..unconditional love.. they are always happy to see you.
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country_lady67: I for one despise cats// they are mean and sneaky.. I am a dog person..unconditional love.. they are always happy to see you.
I also hate cats. 
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Ambrose2007: Well, I don't want to push this analogy too far. Sure, there are differences...I think. For one, I suspect some of my lady friends may have more respect for their cats...consider them to be family more than they would consider me to be.
Really? Why do you feel like that? Do you have a need to be number one with all your lady friends?
Any animal that is a family pet IS a family member. I love my cat.
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Its all Jedi mind tricks hehehe 
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montecito: Hi Abby Are you talking about JLW a/k/a Joel from Texas or a cat in Aussie land...
lol@ Joel from Texas... I wonder if he would hunt birds for me.
I actually own a cat, Monte... We have an interesting relationship of co-existence ... I think he misses my daughter now she has moved out.
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country_lady67: I for one despise cats// they are mean and sneaky.. I am a dog person..unconditional love.. they are always happy to see you.
Yeah, I know, County. Gals can be just as devoted or more so to their canines. However, I have seen plenty of mutts wrapping their owners around their paws, too. So has Cesar Milan.
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by and large are surely the most controlling of creatures: they're aloof when they want, and demanding in an utterly selfish way when they want attention or food or affection or whatever.
Thats odd...you just described my ex ...I think you mean MEN dontcha??
Thats odd...you just described my ex ...I think you mean MEN dontcha??
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Abagail: lol@ Joel from Texas... I wonder if he would hunt birds for me.
I actually own a cat, Monte... We have an interesting relationship of co-existence ... I think he misses my daughter now she has moved out.
I actually own a cat, Monte... We have an interesting relationship of co-existence ... I think he misses my daughter now she has moved out.
I was messing witchya Abby girl when I asked if it was Texas Joel.
That's why I highlighted that particular part of your post..
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whowhatwherewhen: Really? Why do you feel like that? Do you have a need to be number one with all your lady friends?
Any animal that is a family pet IS a family member. I love my cat.
Any animal that is a family pet IS a family member. I love my cat.
No, not ALL my lady friends. I love my cat, too, but never would consider her equal to my partner or on the same footing value-wise.
Now this interesting, because in your first post you indicated there is a difference between people and cat and people-people relations, and now you kind of sound as if you do in fact put your puddy on equal footing with people (and possibly even your SO?) Kind of confirms my thesis, doesn't it, Who?
I don't mean to put words in your mouth - just saying it sounds as though that's what you're saying. If not, what then would you say the difference in these relationships is (or should be)?
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montecito: I was messing witchya Abby girl when I asked if it was Texas Joel.
That's why I highlighted that particular part of your post..
That's why I highlighted that particular part of your post..
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Ambrose2007: No, not ALL my lady friends. I love my cat, too, but never would consider her equal to my partner or on the same footing value-wise.
Now this interesting, because in your first post you indicated there is a difference between people and cat and people-people relations, and now you kind of sound as if you do in fact put your puddy on equal footing with people (and possibly even your SO?) Kind of confirms my thesis, doesn't it, Who?
I don't mean to put words in your mouth - just saying it sounds as though that's what you're saying. If not, what then would you say the difference in these relationships is (or should be)?
Now this interesting, because in your first post you indicated there is a difference between people and cat and people-people relations, and now you kind of sound as if you do in fact put your puddy on equal footing with people (and possibly even your SO?) Kind of confirms my thesis, doesn't it, Who?
I don't mean to put words in your mouth - just saying it sounds as though that's what you're saying. If not, what then would you say the difference in these relationships is (or should be)?
I agree with you. I did say that. I think what Im trying to say is, while animals have a place in our families, we recognize their time on earth is generally short. We have emotional attachments to them but, I dont think anyone (in their right mind) would put an animal before a human family member. We love our pets for what they are and the joy they bring us. We love our families far more deeply.
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venusenvy: Its all Jedi mind tricks hehehe
I'm sending my Jedi mind manipulating spells your way, Venie. You will drive across the border tonight...come to my place...pick up the paint brush...and begin painting my place...
God, I hate painting...
(Nothing particularly metaphorical intended, btw.)
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Cats and ladies...there's something about that connection, particularly in one example that comes to mind...that's always intrigued and puzzled me. Cats by and large are surely the most controlling of creatures: they're aloof when they want, and demanding in an utterly selfish way when they want attention or food or affection or whatever. In a thread I authored some time back "Sleeping With Cats," many of lady respondents confirmed that cats had them "curled around their clawed little paws." Cats, according to many of the women, got their way, and the women were happy to give in to them.
Now here's the quandary: These very same women often appear to be the most man-independent types - I mean, they proclaim their independence of men and yet at the same declare themselves to be happily dominated by their cats. Sometimes I've noticed myself doing something rather similar to a cat - in effect, pawing at the blinds to get love and attention from a female - but while that earns the cat only more dominance and affection and love, when I've tried it I get slapped down like a pesky fly on a meathook.
Go freakin' Figure...