Your Government Is Firing Upon YOU... (41)
Swarm over Syria,for the gains,rearm them.
ttom500: Looks like the US might be willing to give weapons to the freedom fighters in Syria. But then if the Freedom fighters win.....ultimately the US will be blamed for taking down Assad and giving weapons to alQeada.
Which reminds me much of Stinger missiles to Mushadeen in Afghanistan to oust the Russians.
Which reminds me much of Stinger missiles to Mushadeen in Afghanistan to oust the Russians.
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Galactic_bodhi: Follow the money. Who will profit if we intervene? That is the only concern of those who decide where and when we intervene in the fighting and the dying.
Did we intervene in Rwanda? No. There was no profit margin, even though approximately 800,000 people died in the genocide.
Is there oil or other goodies to exploit? I dunno. Not really up on the industries of Syria. We have our eyes on Iran right now. For obvious reasons. There's money to be made there.
let russia/china take care of it,we have to,fend off china for aussies,like japan in ww2.Did we intervene in Rwanda? No. There was no profit margin, even though approximately 800,000 people died in the genocide.
Is there oil or other goodies to exploit? I dunno. Not really up on the industries of Syria. We have our eyes on Iran right now. For obvious reasons. There's money to be made there.
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HealthyLiving: I have not followed all of the news concerning Syria and the attacks the government is making on it's people, but I do hear the cries of the people of Syria.
I do not understand as I watch the news clips of the government of Syria firing on their people. I do not understand why the countries of the world do not interviene.
I thought that this would raise a defense for the Syrian people of
"Crimes against humanity". Why are the countries of the world standing by and doing NOTHING to help these people?
What are they waiting for?
How can the U.S. go into a war for over 10 years without United Nations consent to do so, because THEY believe there are weapons of mass destruction which were never found?
Yet, no one wants to get envolved when people are getting slaughtered by their own government?
What if this were happening to you in Your country?
Would you want someone to step in and help you?
This is just beyond me, how there is no compassion for the Syrian people who are being attacked by their government. I feel that if we allow this, then we deserve it to happen to even us.
How do YOU feel about what is going on in Syria? Would you want it to happen in your country? Can you put yourself in their shoes?
I am grieved over this.
HL
the fact is that we have lost compassion. most of us care about a simple headache much more than lives of othersI do not understand as I watch the news clips of the government of Syria firing on their people. I do not understand why the countries of the world do not interviene.
I thought that this would raise a defense for the Syrian people of
"Crimes against humanity". Why are the countries of the world standing by and doing NOTHING to help these people?
What are they waiting for?
How can the U.S. go into a war for over 10 years without United Nations consent to do so, because THEY believe there are weapons of mass destruction which were never found?
Yet, no one wants to get envolved when people are getting slaughtered by their own government?
What if this were happening to you in Your country?
Would you want someone to step in and help you?
This is just beyond me, how there is no compassion for the Syrian people who are being attacked by their government. I feel that if we allow this, then we deserve it to happen to even us.
How do YOU feel about what is going on in Syria? Would you want it to happen in your country? Can you put yourself in their shoes?
I am grieved over this.
HL
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HealthyLiving: I have not followed all of the news concerning Syria and the attacks the government is making on it's people, but I do hear the cries of the people of Syria.
I do not understand as I watch the news clips of the government of Syria firing on their people. I do not understand why the countries of the world do not interviene.
I thought that this would raise a defense for the Syrian people of
"Crimes against humanity". Why are the countries of the world standing by and doing NOTHING to help these people?
What are they waiting for?
How can the U.S. go into a war for over 10 years without United Nations consent to do so, because THEY believe there are weapons of mass destruction which were never found?
Yet, no one wants to get involved when people are getting slaughtered by their own government?...
I am grieved over this.
HL
I do not understand as I watch the news clips of the government of Syria firing on their people. I do not understand why the countries of the world do not interviene.
I thought that this would raise a defense for the Syrian people of
"Crimes against humanity". Why are the countries of the world standing by and doing NOTHING to help these people?
What are they waiting for?
How can the U.S. go into a war for over 10 years without United Nations consent to do so, because THEY believe there are weapons of mass destruction which were never found?
Yet, no one wants to get involved when people are getting slaughtered by their own government?...
I am grieved over this.
HL
Save your grief for more worthy situations HL.
What is really happening in Syria is not what the US media presents.
The US CIA is funding organizing and arming terrorist insurgents in Syria.
Their role is to massacre innocents and to then blame the deaths on the government. The western press then publicizes these claims and pretends that the government is brutal and creates public support for invasion of the country by NATO or UN or some other outside force.
This is the same thing that happened in Libya and a lot of other countries. But rest assured, the UN and NATO are not humanitarian organizations. They are political in nature and they have an agenda to destroy independent nations and bring them under their control.
Personally I support Syria and I hope they can withstand this attempt to overthrow their government.
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RayfromUSA: Save your grief for more worthy situations HL.
What is really happening in Syria is not what the US media presents.
The US CIA is funding organizing and arming terrorist insurgents in Syria.
Their role is to massacre innocents and to then blame the deaths on the government. The western press then publicizes these claims and pretends that the government is brutal and creates public support for invasion of the country by NATO or UN or some other outside force.
This is the same thing that happened in Libya and a lot of other countries. But rest assured, the UN and NATO are not humanitarian organizations. They are political in nature and they have an agenda to destroy independent nations and bring them under their control.
Personally I support Syria and I hope they can withstand this attempt to overthrow their government.
What is really happening in Syria is not what the US media presents.
The US CIA is funding organizing and arming terrorist insurgents in Syria.
Their role is to massacre innocents and to then blame the deaths on the government. The western press then publicizes these claims and pretends that the government is brutal and creates public support for invasion of the country by NATO or UN or some other outside force.
This is the same thing that happened in Libya and a lot of other countries. But rest assured, the UN and NATO are not humanitarian organizations. They are political in nature and they have an agenda to destroy independent nations and bring them under their control.
Personally I support Syria and I hope they can withstand this attempt to overthrow their government.
you been there,looked at the situation and all? 
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Conrad73: Never a good Idea to get in the middle of a Civil-War!
True. Much too public. And too unpredictable too.
Best to head off any sort of civil war by staging a military coup and putting a dictator into power, allowing him then to round up all of his enemies and clean house behind closed doors.
If you wait until there is already a civil war some other super-power might get involved on the other side.
That can be profitable too as it can lead to a multi-trillion dollar prolonged proxy war. But it's also apt to stir up opposition on the home front.
The prevailing strategy is to have just enough casualties among the occupiers to keep the idea of a war barely credible. Meanwhile local civilian casualties can be as high as needed to justify the claim that the occupiers are needed to stop the violence. Drones and such are very good for maintaining such lopsided body counts.
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Conrad73: you been there,looked at the situation and all?
It's nothing new Conrad. Carbon copy of the operations used to justify western backed coups in many other countries. Libya, Iran, Iraq, the Phillipines, Argentina, Venezuela, Peru, Grenada, Liberia, and a lot of others.
If they can successfully accomplish the coup just by creating and arming a local faction and launching a terrorist campaign, that's what they'll do.
If not they'll send in troops and call it a police action to put down a tyrant or stop Communism or something like that.
In every case it will be used to rob US taxpayers and funnel money to the industries that comprise the military industrial complex.
It's always about money. Whether it's oil, or arms, or pipelines, or whatever. It's NEVER about helping people.
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RayfromUSA: It's nothing new Conrad. Carbon copy of the operations used to justify western backed coups in many other countries. Libya, Iran, Iraq, the Phillipines, Argentina, Venezuela, Peru, Grenada, Liberia, and a lot of others.
If they can successfully accomplish the coup just by creating and arming a local faction and launching a terrorist campaign, that's what they'll do.
If not they'll send in troops and call it a police action to put down a tyrant or stop Communism or something like that.
In every case it will be used to rob US taxpayers and funnel money to the industries that comprise the military industrial complex.
It's always about money. Whether it's oil, or arms, or pipelines, or whatever. It's NEVER about helping people.
your trouble is,you playing Deuces wild!If they can successfully accomplish the coup just by creating and arming a local faction and launching a terrorist campaign, that's what they'll do.
If not they'll send in troops and call it a police action to put down a tyrant or stop Communism or something like that.
In every case it will be used to rob US taxpayers and funnel money to the industries that comprise the military industrial complex.
It's always about money. Whether it's oil, or arms, or pipelines, or whatever. It's NEVER about helping people.
You're not anywhere close to the Circle to even get a whiff what is going on!
You see CIA anywhere!
You sit there in France,and spout Inner Circle Knowledge you ain't got!
Cut it out Man!
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Personally I think the US has enough problems of its own that it has no business getting involved in other nations' internal disputes.
When the US breaks down into a multi-faction civil war (soon) are Americans going to welcome foreign troops coming in to back one faction against the others and help them take over?
I think not.
And I don't think most Syrians want the US or other western nations to do so in their country.
When the US breaks down into a multi-faction civil war (soon) are Americans going to welcome foreign troops coming in to back one faction against the others and help them take over?
I think not.
And I don't think most Syrians want the US or other western nations to do so in their country.
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RayfromUSA: Save your grief for more worthy situations HL.
What is really happening in Syria is not what the US media presents.
The US CIA is funding organizing and arming terrorist insurgents in Syria.
What is really happening in Syria is not what the US media presents.
The US CIA is funding organizing and arming terrorist insurgents in Syria.
Proof?
RayfromUSA:
Their role is to massacre innocents and to then blame the deaths on the government. The western press then publicizes these claims and pretends that the government is brutal and creates public support for invasion of the country by NATO or UN or some other outside force.
Their role is to massacre innocents and to then blame the deaths on the government. The western press then publicizes these claims and pretends that the government is brutal and creates public support for invasion of the country by NATO or UN or some other outside force.
Pretends the government is brutal? Ray, the Assad regime has been oppressing Syrians since the seventies. No pretend oppression required.
RayfromUSA: This is the same thing that happened in Libya and a lot of other countries.
Hate to break the news to you Ray but Libya wasn't invaded and in 'lots of other countries' they were invaded by UNSC authorization and UN charter, not after attempting to make the existing regime look bad.
RayfromUSA: But rest assured, the UN and NATO are not humanitarian organizations. They are political in nature and they have an agenda to destroy independent nations and bring them under their control.
By 'independent nations' I take it to mean regimes who place human rights of their own citizens at the level of an earthworm and don't mind exporting terror to further their own agendas.
RayfromUSA: Personally I support Syria and I hope they can withstand this attempt to overthrow their government.
Just like you to support a ruthless dictator.
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RayfromUSA: It's nothing new Conrad. Carbon copy of the operations used to justify western backed coups in many other countries. Libya, Iran, Iraq, the Phillipines, Argentina, Venezuela, Peru, Grenada, Liberia, and a lot of others.
Care to provide actual examples of how this is similar Ray?
RayfromUSA: If they can successfully accomplish the coup just by creating and arming a local faction and launching a terrorist campaign, that's what they'll do.
If not they'll send in troops and call it a police action to put down a tyrant or stop Communism or something like that.
In every case it will be used to rob US taxpayers and funnel money to the industries that comprise the military industrial complex.
If not they'll send in troops and call it a police action to put down a tyrant or stop Communism or something like that.
In every case it will be used to rob US taxpayers and funnel money to the industries that comprise the military industrial complex.
Strange, the 'military industrial complex' makes almost as much money when there is no war as they do with a low intensity war so that is hardly a rationale.
RayfromUSA: It's always about money. Whether it's oil, or arms, or pipelines, or whatever. It's NEVER about helping people.
It's about stability and freedom for the people of the regions which transposes into security for the globe.
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RayfromUSA: Personally I think the US has enough problems of its own that it has no business getting involved in other nations' internal disputes.
When the US breaks down into a multi-faction civil war (soon) are Americans going to welcome foreign troops coming in to back one faction against the others and help them take over?
I think not.
And I don't think most Syrians want the US or other western nations to do so in their country.
When the US breaks down into a multi-faction civil war (soon) are Americans going to welcome foreign troops coming in to back one faction against the others and help them take over?
I think not.
And I don't think most Syrians want the US or other western nations to do so in their country.
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Conrad73: your trouble is,you playing Deuces wild!
You're not anywhere close to the Circle to even get a whiff what is going on!
You see CIA anywhere!
You sit there in France,and spout Inner Circle Knowledge you ain't got!
Cut it out Man!
You're not anywhere close to the Circle to even get a whiff what is going on!
You see CIA anywhere!
You sit there in France,and spout Inner Circle Knowledge you ain't got!
Cut it out Man!
If there is any CIA Inner Circle Knowledge here, I wager it would be from someone who tries to deny the CIA's massive involvement in stirring up wars. (as you do Conrad).
Not from someone who points it out as I do.
Personally I am as far out of the CIA's inner circle as I possibly can be.
But nobody is that far from the CIA.
Especially people who discuss politics of public forums.
For, as you say, they are everywhere.
Anybody who is literate and who takes the effort to study a little bit can find all the proof they need that the CIA has its fingers in the politics of every nation on earth.
Vietnam was a CIA operation long before it was anything else.
The CIA's job is starting wars, dealing drugs, smuggling arms, corrupting political leaders, silencing poets, musicians, activists, reporters, civil rights leaders, pacifists, ...anybody who might cause problems for the elite moneyed establishment.
- 1953
In Operation Ajax, CIA operatives in Iran engineered a coup against democratically elected Premier Mohammed Mossadegh, restoring the dictatorial SHAH to the throne.
- 1954
The CIA organized a coup in Guatemala by COL. CARLOS CASTILLO ARMAS and other officers against leftist President Jacobo Arbenz Guzman.
- 1958
The CIA launched a failed coup attempt against President Achmed Sukarno in Indonesia.
- 1961
1,500 CIA-trained and controlled Cuban exiles tried to invade Cuba and overthrow Castro.
- 1961
CIA armed and controlled rebels assassinated dictator Rafael Trujillo and seized control in the Dominican Republic.
- 1962
Kennedy puts the CIA in charge of all paramilitary operations in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. The agency builds an army of 47,000 native mercenaries to conduct terrorist campaigns. Meanwhile the agency also oversees Operation Phoenix, which tortured and assassinated nearly a million civilians in South Vietnam. Funding for such secret CIA covert operations came from smuggling heroin to the US.
- 1961-64
In Brazil, the CIA threatened and pressured democratically elected Janio da Silva Quadros of the Brazilian Labor Party to resign. His successor, Joao Goulart, was then overthrown by a CIA organized coup in 1964.
- 1963
A CIA organized coup involving political assassination, mass imprisonment, torture and murder brought Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party to power in Iraq.
- 1963 After trying to institute land reforms in the Dominican Republic, democratically elected president Juan Bosch was driven from office and forced out of politics by a series of CIA run coups.
-1964
The CIA set up camps in Peru to train death squads to intimidate or eliminate opposition political activists throughout South America.
- 1970
The CIA organized a failed attempt to overthrow the government of Chile.
- 1973
Another CIA organized coup in Chile, this time successful, killing democratically elected president Salvador Allende, and setting up the brutal dictator Augusto Pinochet.
- 1980
The CIA hired Osama Bin Ladin to recruit and organize Arab mercenaries to serve as a guerrilla force in Afghanistan. It also used Pakistani intelligence as a conduit to hire local fighters in Afghanistan. (the taliban)
- 1981
Ronald Reagan appointed Bill Casey as CIA director. Casy initiated coup operations in Angola, Cambodia and El Salvador, besides his biggest operation: funding and training the Nicaraguan contras. Funding for covert operations came from the secret sale of weapons to Iran and from massive cocaine smuggling to the US in CIA planes.
And the list goes one and on. Argentina, Iraq, Afghanisan, Yugoslavia, Albania, Pakistan,.........
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Albertaghost: ...Strange, the 'military industrial complex' makes almost as much money when there is no war as they do with a low intensity war so that is hardly a rationale.
Absolutely ridiculous claim.
Companies like Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, and their ilk make billions off of wars.
And of course governments grossly under-report the true costs.
This video is from 2008 so the figure listed is much lower than the total today. But it gives an idea of how the real cost of the war has to be calculated.
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RayfromUSA: Absolutely ridiculous claim.
Companies like Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, and their ilk make billions off of wars.
And of course governments grossly under-report the true costs.
This video is from 2008 so the figure listed is much lower than the total today. But it gives an idea of how the real cost of the war has to be calculated.
Companies like Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, and their ilk make billions off of wars.
And of course governments grossly under-report the true costs.
This video is from 2008 so the figure listed is much lower than the total today. But it gives an idea of how the real cost of the war has to be calculated.
Here's another good video about how war ruins the economy.
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RayfromUSA: Absolutely ridiculous claim.
Companies like Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, and their ilk make billions off of wars.
And of course governments grossly under-report the true costs.
Companies like Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, and their ilk make billions off of wars.
And of course governments grossly under-report the true costs.
So Halliburton employees would be standing on a street corner with a 'will work for food' sandwich board around their neck if not for war huh?
RayfromUSA: This video is from 2008 so the figure listed is much lower than the total today. But it gives an idea of how the real cost of the war has to be calculated.
Please just quote the figures Ray, using youtube as a source is so idiotic.
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RayfromUSA: Here's another good video about how war ruins the economy.
Some dude makes his own vid in a basement and he is your source huh?
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RayfromUSA: - 1973
Another CIA organized coup in Chile, this time successful, killing democratically elected president Salvador Allende, and setting up the brutal dictator Augusto Pinochet.
Another CIA organized coup in Chile, this time successful, killing democratically elected president Salvador Allende, and setting up the brutal dictator Augusto Pinochet.
I didn't even look at the other crap when this one jumped out at me.
Allende committed suicide Ray.
It's useless taking anything you say seriously.
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RayfromUSA: Here's another good video about how war ruins the economy.
you really need to lay off Conspiracy-Tube,Ray!You could even prove that the Pope is actually a Incarnation of the Prophet!
I can see why you're so way off Target,if C-Youtube is your Source of Evidence!
Might as well get your evidence here.
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Which reminds me much of Stinger missiles to Mushadeen in Afghanistan to oust the Russians.