World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen? ( Archived) (38)

Nov 6, 2006 9:21 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
I am not talking about a 'new world order'.

I am talking about a world where nuclear weapons are not built because no one can even consider using such a thing against a brother. Are we not all brothers and sisters.

Where Peacekeeping forces are not necessary because we all keep the peace.

Where Muslims, Christians and all others can worship in the same House (Gods house) in fellowship and community.

Is this a dream?

What do you think can make this happen?

How long do you think it would take to bring about?

Would you be willing to do your part knowing the seed you plant today may not come to fruit for a 1000 years.

Am in insane?

AB
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Nov 6, 2006 9:55 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
Illuminate
IlluminateIlluminateKathleen, Georgia USA21 Threads 1,878 Posts
Don't mean to piss upon anyones hopes about this utopia.

But It will never happen in this phisycal world.

Why?

Because in order for it to happen you would have to take out all the negative traits of human nature from every single individual...and that wouldn't even be right considering the fact that it may not be pretty...but these negative qualities are part of what makes our humanity and balance.

The only other way...is to force it upon people which has been tried plenty of times throughout history.....and that defeats the entire purpouse.

Peace on earth isn't meant to be a continuous neverchanging thing.
It happens in moments.

So the best way to approach a matter such as this...is to worry about improving ones self..first.cheers
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Nov 6, 2006 10:01 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
You say it can never happen. I say it can. Not by forcing it on someone... That would be the short road and will never work.

But if you do what you can now and I also do what I can now in a 1000 years it might. Wouldn't that be worth it.

I personally have faith that our positive traits are far stronger than our negative traits.

And you are absolutely right... improve one self first.

The long view yeilds the best vistas.

AB
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Nov 6, 2006 10:15 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
BOBthorn
BOBthornBOBthorndublin, Dublin Ireland7 Threads 61 Posts
it wont happen people just care about what they can get for them selfs
and not how they can help the world will be dead and all on it so we are better or thinking about our time and treat everyone me meet the way we would like to be treated
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Nov 6, 2006 11:08 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
Please do that...

You treat everyone you meet this way... It will plant the seed I am talking about.

Only 1/3 will die.

And a thousand years from now my ancestors will be debating the same questions we debate.

AB
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Nov 6, 2006 11:41 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
dbert
dbertdbertParis, Ile-de-France France29 Threads 884 Posts
When people stop seeing it as not united, it will be.
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Nov 6, 2006 12:35 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
Chele1964
Chele1964Chele1964Pittsboro, Indiana USA48 Threads 2,488 Posts
I don't think this will ever happen in "life". This is the kind of place we hope and strive for in death. Unfortunately, there will always be evil in the world. I would love to see our world become peaceful.
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Nov 6, 2006 1:29 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
I think it might be possible given enough time. But I'm talking eons here, not anything in our foreseeable future.

However, as far as humans just trying to get along on the planet I think the USA had a really great opportunity to lead the world in that direction. Unfortunately due to the decisions of a single human being the USA has instead chose to lead the world down the drain.

World leaders really do make a difference because just as their title implies, they are indeed LEADING the world.

I know that people will argue until they are blue in the face, but IMHO for a world leader to declare a global war on terrorism is nothing short of absolutely and utter stupidity. That's now where we are headed simply because a world leader proclaim that this is where we are going to go.

Now those who would argue against what I have just said would argue that terrorism isn't going to just go away if ignored. But the ignorance there is that we don't need to make a "Global War on Terrorism" the prime objective of the human race in order to deal with terrorism. That's just totally not necessary. All that does is aggravate and escalate the entire situation!

That mindset is utter stupidity!

There were (and still are) many other pathways that a world leader could be taking. And much of it is diplomacy and tact. Instead of focusing on a "Global War" against terrorism, had I been the world leader I would have played it all down to being a mere "aside" to more important peaceful events. I would focus on the peaceful events and on peaceful ways to reach resolutions. That doesn't mean that *some* military action might not be required in some cases. But to just dive into an all-out "Global War on Terrorism" is nothing short of absolutely total stupidity.

So AB, in answer to your question. The human race is going to go wherever the world leaders lead us.

Illuminate said that we need to start within ourselves. Well there's no question that needs to be done too. But it doesn't matter how much people do in their own personally life, if they world leaders are leading them down a path to "Global War" then that's ultimately where we will all be going.

The leader of the USA created "Global War" simply by proclaiming that it shall be so!

And because the USA is indeed one of the most powerful countries in the world (if not THE most powerful), that places the leader of the USA in a position of being the WORLD leader. George Bush is leading us to "Global War" because he's the one who proclaimed that it shall be so! And he's actively recruiting more and more ENEMIES to participate in this war.

He's the one who's doing this folks.

Before we can dream about world peace we need to get rid of war-mongering world leaders.

You asked what it would 'take' to make it happen. And the first and foremost thing it will take is to get world leaders in place who genuinely want to lead the world to peace, and not to war.
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Nov 6, 2006 2:37 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Hey Bro.... I think quite possible your last sentence could be true. But then again... the whole set-up word-wide is insane. But it all seems like just toooooooooo much to expect, even if one entire country decided to start acting humanoid enough.... as soon as something seems to be working.... human nature says "kill it!"....
So... a very good thought you have... but I think Humans have lost it already. We'd need ONE extremely wise, talented, powerful leader to force people to toe the line...... but then isnt that predicted in the last book of the Bible? Oh hell, this is too complicated for me, shouldnt have even butted in here... but I like your Thread. head banger
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Nov 6, 2006 2:42 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
It will happen.
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Nov 6, 2006 2:44 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
donnacala
donnacaladonnacalaNorth York, Ontario Canada27 Threads 875 Posts
here's my two cents.......

GREED AND POWER..........get rid of those two and we JUST may be on our way to world peacehug comfort
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Nov 6, 2006 3:10 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
You're right Smoky. It would take a lot more than just a great world leader. Like you say, "The whole set-up world-wide is insane"

The whole world is economy-based. In other words, humans live life worshipping mammon instead of worshiping the human spirit and the glory of the universe in which we live.

As long as the world is economy-based there will never be any peace. Because the mere act of being economy-based puts people at odds with each other and in competition in a dog-eat-dog world.

Will world leader every unite into one body that will lead the world to a non-economically-based global society?

Well, the immediate answer to that question is simple ~ No one is even THINKING along those lines right now.
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Nov 6, 2006 3:11 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
Note: I should have said: No "world leaders" are even THINKING along those lines right now"
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Nov 6, 2006 3:35 PM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
nostres59840
nostres59840nostres59840Missoula, Montana USA14 Threads 640 Posts
No, not insane. I read your post and just kept hearing John Lennon in my head...so here goes. Like minds you and he...this is how it would happen...pass it on...

Imagine Lyrics

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.



peace
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Nov 7, 2006 6:48 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
ontarioman
ontariomanontariomanKawartha lakes, Canada13 Threads 561 Posts
well, my 0.02 cents...You ever see people that are of mixed races? They are really beautiful...all those genes combined from all over the world, or from 2 different ethnic groups? Perhaps...if every race inter mingled and mated...Then what would the race be called? I guess there wouldn't be a distinguished race, and We'd be as "one".
No prejudice, because we are "one".dancing
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Nov 7, 2006 6:52 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
One of my favorite songs.

Thank you.

AB
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Nov 7, 2006 7:17 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
keroba
kerobakerobaEscanaba, Michigan USA25 Threads 301 Posts
I'd say there is a lot of avenues to be travelled before this could ever take place. Not tolerating violence amongst each other would be one. Ideas such as the 3 strikes and your out, need to be enforced. Theres too many repeat offenders (in USA anyways) that get put back on the streets to do the same or even worse crimes. Breaking and Entering used to be a serious offense, Hell,now teens are doing it without hardly any consecuences because they are minors. Probation as a sentence, thats a joke to most people. The justice system is so overwhelmed that a person just shows up (if that) and says he's doing fine and is free to go. Is that a sentence for a crime? Not in my opinion. Michigan had a law at one time if you were caught with an illegal handgun it was an automatic 2 yrs. in prison. I wonder if anyone actually served 2 yrs. My point, let the people know they will be held accountable for their crimes and that it will be enforced is a start to world peace. Kevin
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Nov 7, 2006 7:44 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
Are you saying that enforcement will bring world peace.

Hang all the criminals and the world will be a better place?
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Nov 7, 2006 7:51 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
keroba
kerobakerobaEscanaba, Michigan USA25 Threads 301 Posts
No what I am saying is that in order to have peace you need to have the unruly or criminal element know there would be concequences for their actions. Think of it as a job, if you went in there and started destroying the place, you'd be fired right? Well in this peaceful world we speak of if someone comes in and decides that they can steal what they want, shoot who they want, etc. Then they must face a justice system that will enforce a proper sentence. Not just a slap on the wrist.Kevin
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Nov 7, 2006 9:01 AM CST World unity... What do you think it will take to make it happen?
yea, i thought we were united !! a bit dysfunctional but united!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

sign of the times?

i have been all over the world in so many cultures and what i see is that we ARE UNITED

we weep the same tears and smile the same smiles , bleed, sweat, labour,love


luma called it... everything is perfectly as it needs be.

as harsh as that may sound , there is a bigger picture

that's where the peace is, when we surrender to what just is so , and act with kindness, clarity, and insightgrin
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