The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world. (42)

Oct 6, 2012 5:31 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
sharmini: TA!


Are those the rose coloured glasses you wear to see Feminism as a good thing? laugh
Oct 6, 2012 5:41 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
You aint seen nuthin yet! grin (isnt that a song?)

AH Face, my dear younger man...see I'm auld enuff to know about a time when women were kicked outa their jobs when they got married, wehther they wanted to stop working or not......to remember when women were told what to wear goin to work..ie not allowed trousers....company handbook from the 80's "all staff must wear skirts"....I asked me boss if that meant the lads would be wearing kilts from then on....and he's still laughing!..to remember that until the 1970's, wives were still defined in law as "the chattels of the husband" and so a husband could sue his wife for "lack of service "! ....a wife needed her husbands signature to get a loan....and we had irish divorce....where husbands could go to the uk and divorce their wives here coz the wife's domicilary was deemed to be the same as her husbands...so many a wife and family were left high and dry and in poverty! see im very very auld altogether!laugh
Oct 6, 2012 6:01 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
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facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
sharmini: You aint seen nuthin yet! (isnt that a song?)

AH Face, my dear younger man...see I'm auld enuff to know about a time when women were kicked outa their jobs when they got married, wehther they wanted to stop working or not......to remember when women were told what to wear goin to work..ie not allowed trousers....company handbook from the 80's "all staff must wear skirts"....I asked me boss if that meant the lads would be wearing kilts from then on....and he's still laughing!..to remember that until the 1970's, wives were still defined in law as "the chattels of the husband" and so a husband could sue his wife for "lack of service "! ....a wife needed her husbands signature to get a loan....and we had irish divorce....where husbands could go to the uk and divorce their wives here coz the wife's domicilary was deemed to be the same as her husbands...so many a wife and family were left high and dry and in poverty! see im very very auld altogether!


You were affected by the Marriage Ban when you were 11? Wow, I'm sorry to hear that laugh

Women could choose not to get married and keep working. Many did. And that Marriage Ban only applied to State jobs. Women were neve barred from being professionals or working in any are of society is they remained single but yes the State, for religious reasons, did insist married women looked after the children and their husbands were then paid extra to look after them. But they were never property and that's a Feminist lie.

Back then a schoolteacher or Garda could earn enough to look after his family but today he and his wife are flat out to struggle to look after at most two kids. Who has 'equality' helped? Women or employers?
Oct 6, 2012 6:35 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
Hilarious you are! My ma was told that she should give up her job (semi-skilled and non civil service) as it was only fair? My parents werent well off by any standard. Choose not to get married? Not if they wanted to have children and show their faces outside the front door! And theres still remnants of that in parts of the country. Its all too easy to sit back now and think that things have always been the way they are now....
The husbands were paid extra to look after them? Where did ya get that from? Ya mean the tax deduction for a dependent?! At a time when many men paid 60% of the pound in tax?....and again I'm talking jobs outside the civil service and professional arenas.


Domicile and Recognition of Foreign Divorces Act 1986: confirmed independent domiciles of wives, recognised divorces granted where either spouse was domiciled.

the above was one of the most important law reforms, as this removed the "chattel" status of the wife.
Oct 7, 2012 8:34 AM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
Well then your ma chose to give up her job, she wasn't forced to do so. It was only government or maybe church paid employees that were affected by the marriage ban. I know Feminists like to claim it was them that had it removed but it was in fact mostly conservative traditional women in the ICA and teachers who got it removed.

But does going back to the 1970's to look for a justification for the abuses of Feminism today not seem a little 'stuck'? The Catholics who were denied housing and jobs in the north of our country at the same time then don't justify bad behaviour today beacuse of ancient history, do they? No, because they don't have then mentality of spoiled children.
Oct 7, 2012 8:49 AM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
sharmini
sharminisharminidublin, Dublin Ireland83 Threads 1 Polls 2,918 Posts
ah you twist everything thats said! My mam was told. "Shown the back door" as they used to call polite firing. Anyway, I'll leave to your rant.
Oct 8, 2012 2:32 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
fifitheminx: shocker...some men believe it too...but i suppose ud call them manginas..cos surely they were influenced and didnt use their own brain to decide..tut tut.

Fear is so obvious in some people..fear of the unknown, which leads to hatred..of the different, and always reading everything from their own expectations and experiences in life,

many women have agreed with some of the mens rights things posted on these forums, yet actual womens rights were formed for evil purposes and gain power from a certain camps perspective...same could be said for their little campaign on a dating site which they have joined and constantly run down as an effective way to meet anyone..so why are this collective here then??amazing how they have a label for just about everyone that doesnt agree with them?...or do they believe in equality of label?

whats YOUR label then? quick enough to label and pigeonhole everyone else...

what are YOU?
You checking me out minxi,well my label mmmm well lets say I am a person who views all forms of ideologies cults with suspicion especialy the so called ones today ie reiki aromatherapy t,touch astrology charts that so many women believe in,yes a few men do as well but mostly women ,do you believe in some of the latter?
Oct 8, 2012 2:39 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
na just wondered what you would label yourself as..if i was checking you out u wouldnt be in any doubt or have to ask.

and i think no matter what anyone is theres always someone waiting to judge them..

point of the matter is not caring what people think once you're happy..haters will always hate, cos they think everyone should be like them...and once people are happy and not hurting anyone ..well whats the problem. doesnt matter what they believe in.

you should stand proud as a christian..but dont knock what others want to believe..live and let live.
Oct 8, 2012 2:51 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
I think most belief systems are a money making racket, from tarot cards to the Catholicism, Astrology to Tree hugging new age hippy crap.
All of them DEMAND payment to enrich your life/soul, whilst getting rich themselves.
Oct 8, 2012 3:14 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
fifitheminx: all churches are funded by their believers somewhat..and all for peace of mind.

there are charlatans in every walk of life, and many would also say every faith/church is a cult of some type..just different.

the difference is only in opinion.

without being disprespectful to belivers ...id like to believe those whacking a euro into a basket on sunday morning truly get the heaven they paid for,

sure in germany u got to pay tax for ur religious beliefs..

now imagine the numbers claiming to be catholic in ireland if that was introduced here..

food for thought.


Oct 8, 2012 3:28 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
fifitheminx: all churches are funded by their believers somewhat..and all for peace of mind.

there are charlatans in every walk of life, and many would also say every faith/church is a cult of some type..just different.

the difference is only in opinion.

without being disprespectful to belivers ...id like to believe those whacking a euro into a basket on sunday morning truly get the heaven they paid for,

sure in germany u got to pay tax for ur religious beliefs..

now imagine the numbers claiming to be catholic in ireland if that was introduced here..

food for thought.
Yes thats true and those retired nuns and priests get well looked after though some of them were good. In a way they are all cults some are just worse than others and need money to keep going and seem to dispel with the original purpose they set out with but as I said before christianity ie the irish monks brought stability and education to Europe and did a lot of good and if it wasent for them we would still be sacrficing human beings to the gods and seeing spirits or evil everwhere as was the case with all those cults at those times and people were unhappy well so the history books say,but I have to say the catholic church here were like the talibann but at least they were our talibann and not like the one now sweeping europe.Its all history repeating itself.
Oct 8, 2012 3:32 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
modermen: Yes thats true and those retired nuns and priests get well looked after though some of them were good. In a way they are all cults some are just worse than others and need money to keep going and seem to dispel with the original purpose they set out with but as I said before christianity ie the irish monks brought stability and education to Europe and did a lot of good and if it wasent for them we would still be sacrficing human beings to the gods and seeing spirits or evil everwhere as was the case with all those cults at those times and people were unhappy well so the history books say,but I have to say the catholic church here were like the talibann but at least they were our talibann and not like the one now sweeping europe.Its all history repeating itself.


i never trust history books..for history is written by the victor..and victory isnt always just and right..and stories arent always accurate. the only things we can be sure of are the things happening right in front of our eyes.
Oct 8, 2012 3:44 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
fifitheminx: i never trust history books..for history is written by the victor..and victory isnt always just and right..and stories arent always accurate. the only things we can be sure of are the things happening right in front of our eyes.
Come on that is an absolutly ridiculous comment and that comment is related to wars in history and not all history ,maybee you have heard it said those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it,the fact of the matter is medievil europe and europe today owes a lot tho the christian monks of Ireland wether you want to believe it or not.
Oct 8, 2012 3:52 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
modermen: Come on that is an absolutly ridiculous comment and that comment is related to wars in history and not all history ,maybee you have heard it said those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it,the fact of the matter is medievil europe and europe today owes a lot tho the christian monks of Ireland wether you want to believe it or not.


maybe it is...and maybe im ridiculous..but its how i roll laugh

lets just say i dont believe everything im told..gut instinct serves me well.
Nov 11, 2012 4:26 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
modermen: With the decay or decline of the catholic church {due to their own fault} are people replacing one belief or pseudo practices with another for example reiki,astrology,yoga ,pseudoscience,scientology,political correctness ,atheisim ,socialism ,hippy communes,new age,t-touch,mind readers,aromatherapy,tarrot card readers in fact in Easons theres an entire section of these beliefs or cults but no one says a word its quite ok until you say you believe in christianity,or maybee I am wrong, your thoughts on the subject please.


Was at a craft fair today and lots of nice hancrafted items on display which must of took endless amounts of patience to make and design, I arrived at a stall and there was a hippy selling hes goods and amazingly an item caught my attention I asked him what it was and he explained it was a devil worship table ,yes thats right all complete with the cross up side down and the star of David and some other weird artifacts,was gonna give him a slap if I could of got away with it,just proves my point one religion goes out other ones come in and aparently its getting more common.
Nov 12, 2012 3:20 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
modermen: Was at a craft fair today and lots of nice hancrafted items on display which must of took endless amounts of patience to make and design, I arrived at a stall and there was a hippy selling hes goods and amazingly an item caught my attention I asked him what it was and he explained it was a devil worship table ,yes thats right all complete with the cross up side down and the star of David and some other weird artifacts,was gonna give him a slap if I could of got away with it,just proves my point one religion goes out other ones come in and aparently its getting more common.


You couldn't have a Satanic altar without a star of David/star of Moloch. There was a Satanist who died in the Royal Navy a few years ago and because of religious equality laws he had to get a Satanic funeral. These idiots with their pseudo Satanic paraphenalia are just idiots trying to shock. It stops you thinking what utter loosers they are. Like Wiccans they are. I reckon if they saw the real thing they do one.
Dec 10, 2012 6:39 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
facetowardsfront: I think people have been looking into the occult for many hundreds if not thousands of years. Cults like Scientology, Wicca and others attract sad people who are probaly suffering a sort of Stockholm Syndrome from an abusive parents and find the next nearest thing in the world.

Years ago I was seeing this one who was into Reiki and was 'training' to be a witch. She dumped me one day 'cos she was having bad dreams about me and took it as a message. The bad dreams involved me just walking away from her and making her cry. uh oh Unfortunately ever since I've always associated them lot with that sort of mad thinking.
Dec 10, 2012 7:56 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
MADDOG69: Years ago I was seeing this one who was into Reiki and was 'training' to be a witch. She dumped me one day 'cos she was having bad dreams about me and took it as a message. The bad dreams involved me just walking away from her and making her cry. Unfortunately ever since I've always associated them lot with that sort of mad thinking.


That sounds like a lucky escape laugh

Having said that I would think that with training, discipline and regular practice you can develop some 'powers' that might be considered psychic, but not the way those charlatans operate. I'd think it's more like boosting your natural ability to intuit things.

If you ever saw the film Men who stare at Goats, that's the sort of thing I think is possible. The 'witches' and such seem to start off from a mentally unbalanced place so they're not going to go anywhere other than further into crazy; Astral Junkies!
Dec 11, 2012 2:30 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
MADDOG69: Years ago I was seeing this one who was into Reiki and was 'training' to be a witch. She dumped me one day 'cos she was having bad dreams about me and took it as a message. The bad dreams involved me just walking away from her and making her cry. Unfortunately ever since I've always associated them lot with that sort of mad thinking.
Ha ha oh wow.lucky you got out of that one who knows the result of what would of hapend if she had another crazy dream.
Dec 11, 2012 2:49 PM CST The rise of pseudo religions and cults in the western world.
modermen: Ha ha oh wow.lucky you got out of that one who knows the result of what would of hapend if she had another crazy dream.

With a bit of luck she grew out of that crap.
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