jono7: hiya H what if someone loves someone who is abusive? what about domestic violence? are you saying that they don't love the person if they leave?
jono7: hiya H what if someone loves someone who is abusive? what about domestic violence? are you saying that they don't love the person if they leave?
I'd say you answered your own question in post 15 of this thread.
jono7: hiya H what if someone loves someone who is abusive? what about domestic violence? are you saying that they don't love the person if they leave?
I used to go to Solo Center (a singles socializing place) in Seattle, and one of the guys there said he used to be married when he was an alcoholic. He went through AA and became sober near the end of their marriage, but the wife said, "It's too late." She didn't love him any more.
purr4mance: I don't care much for being right anymore.
If there's one thing I've learned from my stay here at CS, it would be that happiness is where it's at.
But, happiness might just be an illusion.
....here we go.... already mentioned today how the concept of illusion gives me holographic insomnia ...
if happiness can be a choice, then that suggests to me that it is perhaps also an illusion. that it all depends on our perception...how we frame things to ourselves. (which leads into why don't more folks choose it) then into life as experience, as feeling...as being..
HuggerMan4U: I used to go to Solo Center (a singles socializing place) in Seattle, and one of the guys there said he used to be married when he was an alcoholic. He went through AA and became sober near the end of their marriage, but the wife said, "It's too late." She didn't love him any more.
sad, yes, i've seen that happen. but i think that may happen as well if one partner makes any kind of drastic change in the relationship dynamic.
jono7: hiya H what if someone loves someone who is abusive? what about domestic violence? are you saying that they don't love the person if they leave?
One of the most difficult things about negative relationships is that the abuser/controller/manipulator doesn't see their behavior as "wrong", therefore there is no real solution. In fact, I read recently something that is being further examined in controllers and manipulators (It's rather dark, actually...) and that is the abuser is NOT MOVED by the victim's sorrow. How eerie for both.
rohaan: One of the most difficult things about negative relationships is that the abuser/controller/manipulator doesn't see their behavior as "wrong", therefore there is no real solution. In fact, I read recently something that is being further examined in controllers and manipulators (It's rather dark, actually...) and that is the abuser is NOT MOVED by the victim's sorrow. How eerie for both.
HuggerMan4U: I used to go to Solo Center (a singles socializing place) in Seattle, and one of the guys there said he used to be married when he was an alcoholic. He went through AA and became sober near the end of their marriage, but the wife said, "It's too late." She didn't love him any more.
Happens a lot. Many of those type of relationships are co-dependent. As soon as there is a change such sobriety, the other partner looses interest. Co-dependency means that the non drinking partner is as dependent on the bottle as the alcoholic in his/her life. Also many who become sober in AA become rather "programmed" and not easy to live with.
Rumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK980 posts
In response to: lOVING SOMEONE UNCONDITIONALLY DOES NOT MEAN STAYING WITH THEM, NO MATTER WHAT.
That old Queen of cliches "I love you but i'm not in love with you" springs to mind. You know, that pretend love that people use to purpotedly spare the other person's feelings, but in reality is just how a coward deals with guilt.
Human characters is not like "oil change" in your car.-
jono7: sad, yes, i've seen that happen. but i think that may happen as well if one partner makes any kind of drastic change in the relationship dynamic.
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what if someone loves someone who is abusive?
what about domestic violence?
are you saying that they don't love the person if they leave?
Or perhaps the other way around... Jono!