I mean DAMN! How much is too much?? This is getting crazy!!
Illegals tab? $1 billion just in Oregon
WASHINGTON – A new study by the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform reveals illegal aliens in Oregon cost tax payers more than $1 billion annually. That translates into $700 that each Oregon resident pays for state services to illegal aliens. The study, titled “The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Aliens on Oregonians (2012)”, shows that each Oregon taxpayer must contribute $700 annually to pay for the education costs, English language training, prison incarceration, law enforcement and health care for illegal aliens. The study shows that K-12 education demands much of the money, some $575 million. goes to Supplemental English Education costs another $159 million; justice and law enforcement, including policing and court costs, is $140 million; while Oregon taxpayers pay $125 million for health care to be provided to illegal aliens. The study also finds that illegal aliens only pay $77 million in taxes, or 7.3 percent of the total expenditures. FAIR explains, “Illegal aliens pay relatively little in taxes, mainly because of their low earnings.” It is estimated that there are 170,000 illegal aliens residing in Oregon and about 64,000 state dependent children that were born in the United States, according to the study. The information comes on the heels of a new study from the University of Oregon, as reported by the Eugene Registered Guard, that Oregon’s economic “recovery continues to be sluggish” with unemployment at a staggering 8.7 percent.
Foxmaine: I mean DAMN! How much is too much?? This is getting crazy!!
Illegals tab? $1 billion just in Oregon
WASHINGTON – A new study by the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform reveals illegal aliens in Oregon cost tax payers more than $1 billion annually. That translates into $700 that each Oregon resident pays for state services to illegal aliens. The study, titled “The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Aliens on Oregonians (2012)”, shows that each Oregon taxpayer must contribute $700 annually to pay for the education costs, English language training, prison incarceration, law enforcement and health care for illegal aliens. The study shows that K-12 education demands much of the money, some $575 million. goes to Supplemental English Education costs another $159 million; justice and law enforcement, including policing and court costs, is $140 million; while Oregon taxpayers pay $125 million for health care to be provided to illegal aliens. The study also finds that illegal aliens only pay $77 million in taxes, or 7.3 percent of the total expenditures. FAIR explains, “Illegal aliens pay relatively little in taxes, mainly because of their low earnings.” It is estimated that there are 170,000 illegal aliens residing in Oregon and about 64,000 state dependent children that were born in the United States, according to the study. The information comes on the heels of a new study from the University of Oregon, as reported by the Eugene Registered Guard, that Oregon’s economic “recovery continues to be sluggish” with unemployment at a staggering 8.7 percent.
Thanks for noticing, when I brought this up in the past I was told I was prejudice and the information was untrue. Also there is a lot that are not recorded in these numbers as well. as in many statistics they always have a significant number that will slip through the cracks. I say that it has a significant impact on this economy and the bottom line is they are here Illegally. We have plenty of legal people that are on the street and need help that do not get it. Too many people that get turned down for work and instead there is a Illegal person working that job or finds a family to work for under the table. That especially hurts the small business owners, and I don't mean the ones with a thousand employees. I mean the small businesses that are 2 and three people, sometimes a few more. Those businesses suffer when they are undercut because others don't follow Labor laws. And on and on . It really is killing those legit people.
L_B76Italy,Germany ,Switzerland, Greater London, England UK1,117 posts
Foxmaine: I mean DAMN! How much is too much?? This is getting crazy!!
Illegals tab? $1 billion just in Oregon
WASHINGTON – A new study by the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform reveals illegal aliens in Oregon cost tax payers more than $1 billion annually. That translates into $700 that each Oregon resident pays for state services to illegal aliens. The study, titled “The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Aliens on Oregonians (2012)”, shows that each Oregon taxpayer must contribute $700 annually to pay for the education costs, English language training, prison incarceration, law enforcement and health care for illegal aliens. The study shows that K-12 education demands much of the money, some $575 million. goes to Supplemental English Education costs another $159 million; justice and law enforcement, including policing and court costs, is $140 million; while Oregon taxpayers pay $125 million for health care to be provided to illegal aliens. The study also finds that illegal aliens only pay $77 million in taxes, or 7.3 percent of the total expenditures. FAIR explains, “Illegal aliens pay relatively little in taxes, mainly because of their low earnings.” It is estimated that there are 170,000 illegal aliens residing in Oregon and about 64,000 state dependent children that were born in the United States, according to the study. The information comes on the heels of a new study from the University of Oregon, as reported by the Eugene Registered Guard, that Oregon’s economic “recovery continues to be sluggish” with unemployment at a staggering 8.7 percent.
Hi... well in the country.. where my origins comes.. every week from the other side of the sea landing 200 300 immigrants.. no documents in need of social assistance... plus and here comes the good thing an accommodation and and 50 buck week plus food and all basic needs.. lets say each person per week cost 250 bucks... X 200 X 48 weeks oh forgot might happen they make some damages too..... and more money gets out our pockets and believe now thats all..
L_B76: Hi... well in the country.. where my origins comes.. every week from the other side of the sea landing 200 300 immigrants.. no documents in need of social assistance... plus and here comes the good thing an accommodation and and 50 buck week plus food and all basic needs.. lets say each person per week cost 250 bucks... X 200 X 48 weeks oh forgot might happen they make some damages too..... and more money gets out our pockets and believe now thats all..
Nikogas: Thanks for noticing, when I brought this up in the past I was told I was prejudice and the information was untrue. Also there is a lot that are not recorded in these numbers as well. as in many statistics they always have a significant number that will slip through the cracks. I say that it has a significant impact on this economy and the bottom line is they are here Illegally. We have plenty of legal people that are on the street and need help that do not get it. Too many people that get turned down for work and instead there is a Illegal person working that job or finds a family to work for under the table. That especially hurts the small business owners, and I don't mean the ones with a thousand employees. I mean the small businesses that are 2 and three people, sometimes a few more. Those businesses suffer when they are undercut because others don't follow Labor laws. And on and on . It really is killing those legit people.
I agree!! I quit doing body work because the illegals came on and ran the price down for the work. They mostly did lousy work for cheap, but that was what I kept hearing from customers. "That shop down the street said they would fix it for half what you charge." Too often I would see that car later doing a crab imitation or "dog tracking" as we used to call that years ago. Where the car doesn't look like it's driving straight as it goes down the road. Some came back to ask me how much to fix that car "after" that. It always costs more to fix a mess like that after than it would have at the first. Still the lousy work and low price ran many highly experienced "quality" craftsmen out of business. The cost to keep a shop open is quite high, and you loose too many jobs to lousy low price work and soon you loose the good men that did good work for a "fair" price to fix the car right. That's not to mention that when I fixed a car I used high quality materials as they were intended to be used and my work lasted many years. Often I would see those people driving a car the illegals fixed and a year later it's cracked or faded and the car looks like crap.
Foxmaine: I agree!! I quit doing body work because the illegals came on and ran the price down for the work. They mostly did lousy work for cheap, but that was what I kept hearing from customers. "That shop down the street said they would fix it for half what you charge." Too often I would see that car later doing a crab imitation or "dog tracking" as we used to call that years ago. Where the car doesn't look like it's driving straight as it goes down the road. Some came back to ask me how much to fix that car "after" that. It always costs more to fix a mess like that after than it would have at the first. Still the lousy work and low price ran many highly experienced "quality" craftsmen out of business. The cost to keep a shop open is quite high, and you loose too many jobs to lousy low price work and soon you loose the good men that did good work for a "fair" price to fix the car right. That's not to mention that when I fixed a car I used high quality materials as they were intended to be used and my work lasted many years. Often I would see those people driving a car the illegals fixed and a year later it's cracked or faded and the car looks like crap.
Agreed. And it is not just here and there, this is on a large scale. Even the contractors that are bonded then hire illegals and work until they have too many claims on their bond and people are stuck with homes or remodels that are falling apart.
Nikogas: Agreed. And it is not just here and there, this is on a large scale. Even the contractors that are bonded then hire illegals and work until they have too many claims on their bond and people are stuck with homes or remodels that are falling apart.
So true!! My best friends mom bought a house with illegals setting the basement walls of the house next door. The blocks for the walls were to be filled with concrete. The illegals stuffed news paper in the holes and put just a bit of concrete in the top. While the house was getting framed and sheeted, it fell into the basement when the basement walls gave way. I'll bet anything the framing crew were sub contractors, and I'll bet they lost everything on that job as I'm sure they never got paid for their work or materials. I've heard about things like this all over the nation, and was not so much this way before the illegals started coming here.
L_B76Italy,Germany ,Switzerland, Greater London, England UK1,117 posts
Nikogas: What Country?
Euro in US dollar should be like 480$ but dont matter the currency still be 250 buck each person!!!!!!! which country is.... still be a load of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No society can carry the burden of the entire world's poor.
A lot of people here have sympathy for those from other countries who are looking for a better life, but forcing American tax payers to pay the bill for a limitless number of handouts isn't the answer.
Immigration is still legal, by the way, but people have to get permission before moving to ANY country.
L_B76: Euro in US dollar should be like 480$ but dont matter the currency still be 250 buck each person!!!!!!! which country is.... still be a load of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, I don't know why you are yelling at me and "Euro" is a currency and Europe is a Continent. I simply asked what Country you were referring to.
Not sorry to be gone from Oregon. I miss my friends and family but I spent a year on unemployment there sending out 100s of resumes a week with nary a nibble. I have been in Ohio since July and have already found 2 jobs in the time I've been here.
Galactic_bodhi: Not sorry to be gone from Oregon. I miss my friends and family but I spent a year on unemployment there sending out 100s of resumes a week with nary a nibble. I have been in Ohio since July and have already found 2 jobs in the time I've been here.
Well don't worry Obamanomas taxes are coming in Jan to take away anything you may heave made working all this time.
L_B76Italy,Germany ,Switzerland, Greater London, England UK1,117 posts
Nikogas: OK, I don't know why you are yelling at me and "Euro" is a currency and Europe is a Continent. I simply asked what Country you were referring to.
not yelling just highlighted for make u understand 250 bucks on euro or $ or any other currency... still be a load of money for each person each week each year!!!!!!
L_B76: not yelling just highlighted for make u understand 250 bucks on euro or $ or any other currency... still be a load of money for each person each week each year!!!!!!
I still don't see what it has to do with the State of Oregon and you are yet to make a comparison of another country, province or state. Just what is the point? Are you agreeing and then elaborating? My questions are simply to understand what your saying, nothing more. At first it seemed you meant to discount the situation here, now I am not so sure that is the case. After reading some other posts and threads you have made I was thinking that perhaps English is not a first language and that would explain as well. As this is a international forum I know that many people from all over the world here may not even know what Oregon is. Anyway, thanks for the reply....late is better than not at all. Happy New Year. ;-}
L_B76Italy,Germany ,Switzerland, Greater London, England UK1,117 posts
Nikogas: I still don't see what it has to do with the State of Oregon and you are yet to make a comparison of another country, province or state. Just what is the point? Are you agreeing and then elaborating? My questions are simply to understand what your saying, nothing more. At first it seemed you meant to discount the situation here, now I am not so sure that is the case. After reading some other posts and threads you have made I was thinking that perhaps English is not a first language and that would explain as well. As this is a international forum I know that many people from all over the world here may not even know what Oregon is. Anyway, thanks for the reply....late is better than not at all. Happy New Year. ;-}
oregon citizen pay 700 buck for aliens.... and those aliens get medical care with ur money.. i said in the country i come from.. the government pay "for each alien u call.. i call illegal" 250 bucks each ALIEN is on country.. and that turn up italian citizens have to pay for the ALIENs in the countryif u want blame my english go on i wont mind... im not born in a country where the language spoken is english... AND ADMIT I STILL LEARNING ENGLISH... BUT MONEY IS THE SAME EVERYWHERE....NOT MATTER COUNTRY RELIGION OR LANGUAGE SPOKEN
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Illegals tab? $1 billion just in Oregon
WASHINGTON – A new study by the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform reveals illegal aliens in Oregon cost tax payers more than $1 billion annually.
That translates into $700 that each Oregon resident pays for state services to illegal aliens.
The study, titled “The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Aliens on Oregonians (2012)”, shows that each Oregon taxpayer must contribute $700 annually to pay for the education costs, English language training, prison incarceration, law enforcement and health care for illegal aliens.
The study shows that K-12 education demands much of the money, some $575 million. goes to Supplemental English Education costs another $159 million; justice and law enforcement, including policing and court costs, is $140 million; while Oregon taxpayers pay $125 million for health care to be provided to illegal aliens.
The study also finds that illegal aliens only pay $77 million in taxes, or 7.3 percent of the total expenditures. FAIR explains, “Illegal aliens pay relatively little in taxes, mainly because of their low earnings.”
It is estimated that there are 170,000 illegal aliens residing in Oregon and about 64,000 state dependent children that were born in the United States, according to the study.
The information comes on the heels of a new study from the University of Oregon, as reported by the Eugene Registered Guard, that Oregon’s economic “recovery continues to be sluggish” with unemployment at a staggering 8.7 percent.
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