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Dec 28, 2012 1:47 AM CST Animals before humans
Do you think it is healthy to love an animal more than a human being?
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Dec 28, 2012 1:55 AM CST Animals before humans
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
hoolet: Do you think it is healthy to love an animal more than a human being?


Yep sure do their love is unconditional heart wings heart beating dancing dog cats meow reindeer groundhog sheep bunny bunny chicken teddybear Priceless very happy
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Dec 28, 2012 1:59 AM CST Animals before humans
curly28: Yep sure do their love is unconditional Priceless


that is them for us!!!!! I meant the other way round.
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Dec 28, 2012 2:03 AM CST Animals before humans
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
hoolet: that is them for us!!!!! I meant the other way round.


confused do you mean animals are superior over us mere humans like they rule the world not us type of senario confused
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Dec 28, 2012 2:15 AM CST Animals before humans
curly28: do you mean animals are superior over us mere humans like they rule the world not us type of senario



No, the question is as is it written..........and I would like to know why some people say they love their animals more than other human beings.

Is it because they have felt so injured by other human beings they can´t find it in their hearts to trust and love again.

And what would happen if the animal they professed to love turned round and injured them? Would their own love be unconditional towards it?
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Dec 28, 2012 2:20 AM CST Animals before humans
hoolet: that is them for us!!!!! I meant the other way round.


Got you and you're right. As for loving animals more than human beings that's another story. I think you can really like & love an animal but would you save it or them before saving a human even if that human is a stranger confused I know I wouldn't.
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Dec 28, 2012 2:29 AM CST Animals before humans
Onlyguy: Got you and you're right. As for loving animals more than human beings that's another story. I think you can really like & love an animal but would you save it or them before saving a human even if that human is a stranger I know I wouldn't.



That is how I feel. But to go back to the original question......if someone can make a statement saying they love their animal more than a human.........is this in fact a very UNHEALTHY attitude to life? Cos it´s like saying.........if you don´t love me unconditionally, I´m not gonna love you (which is conditional)
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Dec 28, 2012 2:49 AM CST Animals before humans
hoolet: That is how I feel. But to go back to the original question......if someone can make a statement saying they love their animal more than a human.........is this in fact a very UNHEALTHY attitude to life? Cos it´s like saying.........if you don´t love me unconditionally, I´m not gonna love you (which is conditional)


Honestly I don't think most pets have unconditional love for their owner. There may be dogs out there that might but neither do all dogs.
Also, some people could very well love and prefer their pets to humans but I wouldn't go as far as saying that means "if you don´t love me unconditionally, I´m not gonna love you"

Personally I think if you love someone and that person hesitates between you and his or her pet then I think you should move on.
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Dec 28, 2012 3:37 AM CST Animals before humans
Onlyguy: Honestly I don't think most pets have unconditional love for their owner. There may be dogs out there that might but neither do all dogs.
Also, some people could very well love and prefer their pets to humans but I wouldn't go as far as saying that means "if you don´t love me unconditionally, I´m not gonna love you"

Personally I think if you love someone and that person hesitates between you and his or her pet then I think you should move on.


This was not a question pertaining to me personally. The thought came into my head because there was an article in the paper yesterday regarding people in SA now acquiring animals as pets and the outcry was that they were trying to impersonate the "white" race. This led me on to remembering people who have said in the past that they actually prefer their pets to humans........hence my enquiry???????
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Dec 28, 2012 3:47 AM CST Animals before humans
hoolet: This was not a question pertaining to me personally. The thought came into my head because there was an article in the paper yesterday regarding people in SA now acquiring animals as pets and the outcry was that they were trying to impersonate the "white" race. This led me on to remembering people who have said in the past that they actually prefer their pets to humans........hence my enquiry???????



Some leave fortunes to their pets, I do find that kind of weird...
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Dec 28, 2012 3:52 AM CST Animals before humans
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
hoolet: This was not a question pertaining to me personally. The thought came into my head because there was an article in the paper yesterday regarding people in SA now acquiring animals as pets and the outcry was that they were trying to impersonate the "white" race. This led me on to remembering people who have said in the past that they actually prefer their pets to humans........hence my enquiry???????



Animals depend on humans for food, comfort and health.. which is in fact... survival... Of course they love their owners..Jeez, that is just appreciation.

If you dont look after your animal right... the animal will seek another comfort home.

Humans do not need animals to survive.. Humans have an obligation to look after their pet. But Humans have an obligation to pay attention to their fellow humans... a moral one...

grin

an NO... I dont have pets... they are too needy for me to be bothered with. I have just enough time and energy to look after myself, my house and garden, withouth worrying about an animal... uh oh
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Dec 28, 2012 5:14 AM CST Animals before humans
Merriweather: Animals depend on humans for food, comfort and health.. which is in fact... survival... Of course they love their owners..Jeez, that is just appreciation.

If you dont look after your animal right... the animal will seek another comfort home.

Humans do not need animals to survive.. Humans have an obligation to look after their pet. But Humans have an obligation to pay attention to their fellow humans... a moral one...



an NO... I dont have pets... they are too needy for me to be bothered with. I have just enough time and energy to look after myself, my house and garden, withouth worrying about an animal...



In the desert........we would be hard pushed to survive without a camel. And in the frozen north.......a team of huskies could be very useful. But here I am jesting.

I´m really referring to the normal dogs and cats which most households seem to have nowadays.
Once upon a time these pets were acquired for a purpose......i.e. guarding or working dogs. Or cats to keep the rodent population down.

I believe they bring a lot of pleasure to the home environment, but it worries me when people give more importance to them than to their fellow human beings.
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Dec 28, 2012 5:15 AM CST Animals before humans
Onlyguy: Some leave fortunes to their pets, I do find that kind of weird...


Me too!!!!!
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Dec 28, 2012 6:56 AM CST Animals before humans
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
hoolet: No, the question is as is it written..........and I would like to know why some people say they love their animals more than other human beings.

Is it because they have felt so injured by other human beings they can´t find it in their hearts to trust and love again.

And what would happen if the animal they professed to love turned round and injured them? Would their own love be unconditional towards it?



I don't have a dog yet because my apartment building doesn't allow it BUT I'm going to be moving soon and I will be going to the shelter to get my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

I'm choosing to get a dog instead of looking for a man to live with for the exact suggestion you made.....being injured by human beings that I don't have it in my heart to trust again.

If that dog bites me, it will be an accident because when you give a dog love in all forms, the dog has no reason to bite you unless you hurt it which again would be an accident. I will trust my dog, I cannot trust another human being whether in the romantic world, business world or just as some so-called friends.

Dogs don't expect anything, they just know that you care for them.

People in your life have expectations. When you have expectations you let yourself open for disappointment.

If a dog and a human were hit by a car at the same time I would help the person first. It may not be what my heart wants to do but it is the right thing to do.
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Dec 28, 2012 6:57 AM CST Animals before humans
Dagosto
DagostoDagostoKnoxville, Tennessee USA74 Threads 15 Polls 3,076 Posts
hoolet: Do you think it is healthy to love an animal more than a human being?


Are humans vegetable or mineral?

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Dec 28, 2012 7:09 AM CST Animals before humans
montemonte: I don't have a dog yet because my apartment building doesn't allow it BUT I'm going to be moving soon and I will be going to the shelter to get my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

I'm choosing to get a dog instead of looking for a man to live with for the exact suggestion you made.....being injured by human beings that I don't have it in my heart to trust again.

If that dog bites me, it will be an accident because when you give a dog love in all forms, the dog has no reason to bite you unless you hurt it which again would be an accident. I will trust my dog, I cannot trust another human being whether in the romantic world, business world or just as some so-called friends.

Dogs don't expect anything, they just know that you care for them.

People in your life have expectations. When you have expectations you let yourself open for disappointment.

If a dog and a human were hit by a car at the same time I would help the person first. It may not be what my heart wants to do but it is the right thing to do.
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Dec 28, 2012 7:09 AM CST Animals before humans
montemonte: I don't have a dog yet because my apartment building doesn't allow it BUT I'm going to be moving soon and I will be going to the shelter to get my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

I'm choosing to get a dog instead of looking for a man to live with for the exact suggestion you made.....being injured by human beings that I don't have it in my heart to trust again.

If that dog bites me, it will be an accident because when you give a dog love in all forms, the dog has no reason to bite you unless you hurt it which again would be an accident. I will trust my dog, I cannot trust another human being whether in the romantic world, business world or just as some so-called friends.

Dogs don't expect anything, they just know that you care for them.

People in your life have expectations. When you have expectations you let yourself open for disappointment.

If a dog and a human were hit by a car at the same time I would help the person first. It may not be what my heart wants to do but it is the right thing to do.
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Dec 28, 2012 7:15 AM CST Animals before humans
montemonte: I don't have a dog yet because my apartment building doesn't allow it BUT I'm going to be moving soon and I will be going to the shelter to get my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.

I'm choosing to get a dog instead of looking for a man to live with for the exact suggestion you made.....being injured by human beings that I don't have it in my heart to trust again.

If that dog bites me, it will be an accident because when you give a dog love in all forms, the dog has no reason to bite you unless you hurt it which again would be an accident. I will trust my dog, I cannot trust another human being whether in the romantic world, business world or just as some so-called friends.

Dogs don't expect anything, they just know that you care for them.

People in your life have expectations. When you have expectations you let yourself open for disappointment.

If a dog and a human were hit by a car at the same time I would help the person first. It may not be what my heart wants to do but it is the right thing to do.



I have a dog and a cat and they EXPECT to be fed. I love them both dearly but they would never come before my family. I also had a Shih Tzu which was loved and cared for, but I wouldn´t have trusted him to not bite.......he never did, cos he gave a warning growl first.
But the point of my question was regarding trusting human beings, and you have given your viewpoint. Many thx.
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Dec 28, 2012 7:17 AM CST Animals before humans
Dagosto: Are humans vegetable or mineral?



which is bigger.....heaven or hell?
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Dec 28, 2012 12:48 PM CST Animals before humans
ParamaSathya
ParamaSathyaParamaSathyaColombo, Western Sri Lanka21 Threads 16 Polls 513 Posts
Dagosto: Are humans vegetable or mineral?


Basic Elements + Vigngnana

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