French troops in Mali (64)
A report on Algeria that is 18 minutes old at this time.
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Well that did give an end to the hostage situation but you have to admit US hase some weird allies in the area.
Ruben Andrada, 49, a Filipino civil engineer who works as one of the project management staff for the Japanese company JGC Corp, told The Associated Press that an Algerian helicopter gunship opened fire on vehicles carrying hostages and the gunmen who used them as shields.
Ruben Andrada, 49, a Filipino civil engineer who works as one of the project management staff for the Japanese company JGC Corp, told The Associated Press that an Algerian helicopter gunship opened fire on vehicles carrying hostages and the gunmen who used them as shields.
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Boban1: I have a soon to be ,22 year old son
would I agree that he should be sent somewhere across the globe no matter of the BS stories they are presenting us vie their medias
hell no
keep your children home ,keep them safe, educate them and love them
would I agree that he should be sent somewhere across the globe no matter of the BS stories they are presenting us vie their medias
hell no
keep your children home ,keep them safe, educate them and love them
My kids are in and around that age too Bo. I encourage them to travel. Luckily they do. I believe travel promotes understanding and world peace. Its going to be our children who think of solutions to global peace. How can they do that if they have no understanding of the world?
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When President Obama was at the Washington Reporters Ceremony dinner (not the exact name of it) he had already given thumbs up for the SEALS to go in and get Osama bin Laden. He had a smile on his face through the whole dinner and no one would have ever guessed what was about to be happen in Pakistan.
On Monday, he will be at the inaugeraion, being sworn in for another four years. It will be interesting to hear later on if he was thinking about Algeria and what, if any, strikes he had authorized as he takes the Oath of Office.
On Monday, he will be at the inaugeraion, being sworn in for another four years. It will be interesting to hear later on if he was thinking about Algeria and what, if any, strikes he had authorized as he takes the Oath of Office.
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montemonte: When President Obama was at the Washington Reporters Ceremony dinner (not the exact name of it) he had already given thumbs up for the SEALS to go in and get Osama bin Laden. He had a smile on his face through the whole dinner and no one would have ever guessed what was about to be happen in Pakistan.
On Monday, he will be at the inaugeraion, being sworn in for another four years. It will be interesting to hear later on if he was thinking about Algeria and what, if any, strikes he had authorized as he takes the Oath of Office.
On Monday, he will be at the inaugeraion, being sworn in for another four years. It will be interesting to hear later on if he was thinking about Algeria and what, if any, strikes he had authorized as he takes the Oath of Office.
Thats interesting Monts...Recently our PM suddenly gave the order for all ambassadors/Canadians to leave Iran. He also closed all the embassies here and literally gave them something like 72 hrs to leave the country...Now this is a precedent in Canada and yet he will give no explanation for his actions beyond some vague retoric about them not respecting human rights blah blah blah...Its really makes me wonder what they know, how much is planned in advance and how little they tell us
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venusenvy: Thats interesting Monts...Recently our PM suddenly gave the order for all ambassadors/Canadians to leave Iran. He also closed all the embassies here and literally gave them something like 72 hrs to leave the country...Now this is a precedent in Canada and yet he will give no explanation for his actions beyond some vague retoric about them not respecting human rights blah blah blah...Its really makes me wonder what they know, how much is planned in advance and how little they tell us
Ya well not every coincidence is coincidental coincidently
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venusenvy: Thats interesting Monts...Recently our PM suddenly gave the order for all ambassadors/Canadians to leave Iran. He also closed all the embassies here and literally gave them something like 72 hrs to leave the country...Now this is a precedent in Canada and yet he will give no explanation for his actions beyond some vague retoric about them not respecting human rights blah blah blah...Its really makes me wonder what they know, how much is planned in advance and how little they tell us
hiya Venusenvy
sometimes watching Harper with the volume off is more informative than hearing what he's saying...
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mitsos: Jeez am i the only one that has a bit faith in them?
no I do. I think undreestimating the french will be the undoing of the al queda
heaven forbid they continue to underestimate the US
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FYI - as of today, here is where we are:
"This attack is another reminder of the threat posed by al-Qaida and other violent extremist groups in North Africa," Obama said. "In the coming days, we will remain in close touch with the government of Algeria to gain a fuller understanding of what took place so that we can work together to prevent tragedies like this in the future."
Earlier Saturday, during a news conference in London with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, British Defense Minister Philip Hammond called the loss of life appalling and unacceptable.
"It is the terrorists that bear the sole responsibility," Hammond told reporters.
Hammond didn't criticize Algeria's handling of the attack directly, but he appeared to reference the increased concern from world leaders about the lack of transparency in Algeria's anti-terror operation.
"Different countries have different approaches to dealing with these things," he said. "But the nature of collaboration in confronting a global threat is that we work with people sometimes who do things somewhat different, slightly differently from the way we do them ourselves."
Panetta said that "those who would wantonly attack our country and our people will have no place to hide."
"This attack is another reminder of the threat posed by al-Qaida and other violent extremist groups in North Africa," Obama said. "In the coming days, we will remain in close touch with the government of Algeria to gain a fuller understanding of what took place so that we can work together to prevent tragedies like this in the future."
Earlier Saturday, during a news conference in London with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, British Defense Minister Philip Hammond called the loss of life appalling and unacceptable.
"It is the terrorists that bear the sole responsibility," Hammond told reporters.
Hammond didn't criticize Algeria's handling of the attack directly, but he appeared to reference the increased concern from world leaders about the lack of transparency in Algeria's anti-terror operation.
"Different countries have different approaches to dealing with these things," he said. "But the nature of collaboration in confronting a global threat is that we work with people sometimes who do things somewhat different, slightly differently from the way we do them ourselves."
Panetta said that "those who would wantonly attack our country and our people will have no place to hide."
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engr4u: i am agree with you really true..
if you are speaking to me? or just in agreement with our president's statements?
either way - personally, I am deeply saddened by these events because I know what they mean. I know the French do not take lightly foreign involvement. As we prepare to leave Afghanistan, the U.S. was looking forward to bringing troops home.
Personally I think the US is trying to avoid making it look like we are trying to help west euro nations gain new footholds in countries where they have past colonial interests in N Africa, and that is why you haven't heard a lot from the US yet. If our nationals continue to be threatened, however, we won't need to worry about a mistaken pretext.
Plus I think there are concerns about how the lack of collaboration by the Algerian gov't possibly compromised the lives of hostages....how experienced is the Algerian Gov't in these situations? A good question because regimes in the region are often unstable.
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felixis99: if you are speaking to me? or just in agreement with our president's statements?
either way - personally, I am deeply saddened by these events because I know what they mean. I know the French do not take lightly foreign involvement. As we prepare to leave Afghanistan, the U.S. was looking forward to bringing troops home.
Personally I think the US is trying to avoid making it look like we are trying to help west euro nations gain new footholds in countries where they have past colonial interests in N Africa, and that is why you haven't heard a lot from the US yet. If our nationals continue to be threatened, however, we won't need to worry about a mistaken pretext.
Plus I think there are concerns about how the lack of collaboration by the Algerian gov't possibly compromised the lives of hostages....how experienced is the Algerian Gov't in these situations? A good question because regimes in the region are often unstable.
either way - personally, I am deeply saddened by these events because I know what they mean. I know the French do not take lightly foreign involvement. As we prepare to leave Afghanistan, the U.S. was looking forward to bringing troops home.
Personally I think the US is trying to avoid making it look like we are trying to help west euro nations gain new footholds in countries where they have past colonial interests in N Africa, and that is why you haven't heard a lot from the US yet. If our nationals continue to be threatened, however, we won't need to worry about a mistaken pretext.
Plus I think there are concerns about how the lack of collaboration by the Algerian gov't possibly compromised the lives of hostages....how experienced is the Algerian Gov't in these situations? A good question because regimes in the region are often unstable.
It was reported that the Algerian government did not want to waste time as it was thought the hostages would be moved to a hideout and it would have been more difficult to mount a rescue attempt. I am sure those who were rescued are relieved to be out of there. Who knows whether it was the right move or not. It was a fully Algerian led mission on Algerian sovereign territory? Too many contradictions in politics, but terrorism is here to stay and won't be eradicated, jmo.
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Many say this is a war for the natural resources of the region, i say its partly because of that.So what?Who from here would like
to see these in the hands of al qaida, the ppl that sone woman, cut hands heads and whatever else they do, i wont repeat them because you all heard it before
to see these in the hands of al qaida, the ppl that sone woman, cut hands heads and whatever else they do, i wont repeat them because you all heard it before
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jono7: hiya Venusenvy
sometimes watching Harper with the volume off is more informative than hearing what he's saying...
sometimes watching Harper with the volume off is more informative than hearing what he's saying...
Thanks for the tip Im going to try that
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Been reading/hearing Obama saying that the US is ready.I thought he was bringing more troops home not sending into another mess.
But knowing our government nothing surprises me.
But knowing our government nothing surprises me.
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what if Mali Troops were in france ,I sure all would call it Terrorism 
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In times of economic crisis, any excuse is good to make money, it must be said that the religious fanatics are always great opportunities
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check_mate: It was reported that the Algerian government did not want to waste time as it was thought the hostages would be moved to a hideout and it would have been more difficult to mount a rescue attempt. I am sure those who were rescued are relieved to be out of there. Who knows whether it was the right move or not. It was a fully Algerian led mission on Algerian sovereign territory? Too many contradictions in politics, but terrorism is here to stay and won't be eradicated, jmo.
I agree check mate and apparently some of the hostages were killed while enroute to just such a hideout, it's a tough call, and a risk anyone takes going into that region. after all - we aren't talking about rational people here w/ the al queda
I am just frustrated that we were not able to bring our nationals home safely. it is difficult to assess whether our own troops would have had any more sucess than they did.
but honestly does the Algerian gov't even care about our nationals???? prolly not as much as we do - so I guess that is what bothers me. As a citizen over here in the states I have a hard time believing that any of the govts in that region would prioritize the safety of US citizens....do they even LIKE us??????
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ali110: what if Mali Troops were in france ,I sure all would call it Terrorism
I think a lot of northern africans do live in france, ali
there is no doubt that al queda is terrorism
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It follows an Algerian attempt to rescue gas workers taken hostage by al Qaeda-linked militants which ended in a number of deaths.
Prime Minister David Cameron warned of "further bad news" as he put off a high-profile speech on Europe to stay in London and oversee developments.
Mr Cameron will chair a meeting of the Cobra emergency committee to discuss the hostage situation at a gas plant in eastern Algeria.
Algerian authorities announced there had been "some deaths and injuries" in the operation to free foreign workers from Islamist militants.
But it was unclear how many casualties or which nationalities there were, with conflicting reports from sources on the ground.
Foreign Secretary William Hague cut short a visit to Australia to return to the UK and there was also expected to be a ministerial statement to the House of Commons.
The UK government has not had confirmation from the Algerian government as to whether the crisis is over, and Foreign Office officials believe hostage takers could still be on the site.
Sky's Sophy Ridge said: "There has been perhaps an assumption … that this is a now just a search operation but certainly that's not the basis that the Foreign Office in the UK is working on."
The rescue attempt was launched early on Thursday without consultation with the UK. Mr Cameron was only informed it was under way when he spoke to the Algerian prime minister.
Algerian communications minister Mohamed Said Belaid said the military operation succeeded in "neutralising a large number of terrorists and freeing a large number of hostages".
He added: "But unfortunately, we are sorry to say, there were some deaths and injuries.
"We do not yet have a definitive figure. As soon as we have it, we will make it public."
One British citizen has already been confirmed dead earlier in the hostage situation.
Among those confirmed freed include Irishman Stephen McFaul and three Japanese workers.
Speaking after cancelling his long-awaited Europe speech, Mr Cameron said: "We should be prepared for the possibility of further bad news, very difficult news, in this extremely difficult situation."
The militant group believed to have carried out the raid on the In Amenas gas plant - Katibat Moulathamine or The Masked Ones - said it was retaliating for French military intervention against al Qaeda-backed rebels in neighbouring Mali.
The attack began on Wednesday morning when heavily-armed militants launched a dawn raid.
They claimed to have seized dozens of foreign workers, including Britons, Americans, Norwegians and Japanese.
We are getting very mixed reports here on this. The Algerian gov't in one said only 7 hostages had been killed. In another alQeada said 35 had been killed. Then you have the eye witness of a escaped Norwegian.....who said he will never go back to Algeria.....say he saw three trucks of hostages blown up by Algerian helo gunships.
What ever the number is, it ain't good. RIP.......