Witch Hunt (41)
gosh women....
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Boban1: Young mother accused of sorcery who was stripped naked, reportedly tortured with a branding iron, tied up, splashed with fuel and set alight on a pile of rubbish topped with car tires, in Mount Hagen city in the Western Highlands of Papua New Guinea on February 6, 2013
Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.
Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.
Yeah, all sorts of things happen that are horrible. Look in any divorce court and you will find this exact same thing where innocents are deprived of assets, children and all sorts of dignity because they cannot afford the lawyers to fight malicious and vexatious false claims by their partners.
One does not have to look overseas to find such things. They are happening in various ways all around us every day, even in our own towns.
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Im trying not to be judgmental ,but burning someone at stake for sorcery in the 21 century ???
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
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Boban1: Im trying not to be judgmental ,but burning someone at stake for sorcery in the 21 century ???
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
in some country,the police.. is that much lazy.. to the point they don't even care whats going on around.....
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In response to: Young mother accused of sorcery who was stripped naked, reportedly tortured with a branding iron, tied up, splashed with fuel and set alight on a pile of rubbish topped with car tires, in Mount Hagen city in the Western Highlands of Papua New Guinea on February 6, 2013
Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.
Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.
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Boban1: Im trying not to be judgmental ,but burning someone at stake for sorcery in the 21 century ???
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
Here you are applying western standards to a different culture and country.... get it together man. Our standards are not considered good and normal in many other parts of the world and what we see as deplorable, is not seen this way in the eyes of those doing such things. Conversely they way we live is seen as deplorable by many in the world who live by a different ethical system.....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
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Boban1: Young mother accused of sorcery who was stripped naked, reportedly tortured with a branding iron, tied up, splashed with fuel and set alight on a pile of rubbish topped with car tires, in Mount Hagen city in the Western Highlands of Papua New Guinea on February 6, 2013
Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.
i rearly use these emoticons but in this case i must.Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.
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Boban1: Im trying not to be judgmental ,but burning someone at stake for sorcery in the 21 century ???
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
Boban, Papua New Guinea is a pretty wild place at the best of times, up in the highlands they still take part in tribal warfare, and some anthropologists think in some of the more remote regions they still practice head hunting, The Papuans up there were only really discovered by white exporers and gold prospectors about 100 years ago, and even today some live a very hidden lifestyle.The police wouldn't have intervened as they were probably out numbered and backup in that area would take a long time coming,It's a country that has an ancient culture. Terrible thing to happen though, i'm not dismissing it by any means.And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
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Halv0: Here you are applying western standards to a different culture and country.... get it together man. Our standards are not considered good and normal in many other parts of the world and what we see as deplorable, is not seen this way in the eyes of those doing such things. Conversely they way we live is seen as deplorable by many in the world who live by a different ethical system.....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
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Halv0: Here you are applying western standards to a different culture and country.... get it together man. Our standards are not considered good and normal in many other parts of the world and what we see as deplorable, is not seen this way in the eyes of those doing such things. Conversely they way we live is seen as deplorable by many in the world who live by a different ethical system.....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
Thats why Im trying not to be judgmental ,different people ,different culture ,different customs ,still burning someone is a bit too extreme
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justjim63: Boban, Papua New Guinea is a pretty wild place at the best of times, up in the highlands they still take part in tribal warfare, and some anthropologists think in some of the more remote regions they still practice head hunting, The Papuans up there were only really discovered by white exporers and gold prospectors about 100 years ago, and even today some live a very hidden lifestyle.The police wouldn't have intervened as they were probably out numbered and backup in that area would take a long time coming,It's a country that has an ancient culture. Terrible thing to happen though, i'm not dismissing it by any means.
have to say, its quite a interesting place
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You really have to wonder about some of the people who live on this planet.. some of them really need to be deported into outer space without life supprt..
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Boban1: Im trying not to be judgmental ,but burning someone at stake for sorcery in the 21 century ???
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
And the police just stands there,??? No calling for backup or intervention...
It's horrifying. And you're right, it's mind boggling that such a thing can happen in the 21st century. But, I don't know anything about the culture of those people. Are they modernized or educated about modern ideas, science and technology. There are things that go on all over the world that I find shocking to be happening in the 21st century. But they still happen.
I think we assume that if people have televisions, see movies and use mobile phones they are modernized and their ideas must be modernized too, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Halv0: Here you are applying western standards to a different culture and country.... get it together man. Our standards are not considered good and normal in many other parts of the world and what we see as deplorable, is not seen this way in the eyes of those doing such things. Conversely they way we live is seen as deplorable by many in the world who live by a different ethical system.....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
Good post. Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
That 'the way we live is seen as deplorable by man in the world who live by a different ethical system' is something so many people don't seem to get. They believe in absolute right and absolute wrong, when there is really no such thing.
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Halv0: Here you are applying western standards to a different culture and country.... get it together man. Our standards are not considered good and normal in many other parts of the world and what we see as deplorable, is not seen this way in the eyes of those doing such things. Conversely they way we live is seen as deplorable by many in the world who live by a different ethical system.....
Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
Good post. Realise our sense of morality is not universal and understand that we have things in our societies that many others look at and have the same reactions and emotions as you have to this ....
That 'the way we live is seen as deplorable by man in the world who live by a different ethical system' is something so many people don't seem to get. They believe in absolute right and absolute wrong, when there is really no such thing.
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CHOLENA: It's horrifying. And you're right, it's mind boggling that such a thing can happen in the 21st century. But, I don't know anything about the culture of those people. Are they modernized or educated about modern ideas, science and technology. There are things that go on all over the world that I find shocking to be happening in the 21st century. But they still happen.
I think we assume that if people have televisions, see movies and use mobile phones they are modernized and their ideas must be modernized too, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I think we assume that if people have televisions, see movies and use mobile phones they are modernized and their ideas must be modernized too, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Ha ha..... perhaps instead of the term "modernised" I'd substitute "Americanised". Since nearly everything on TV in my country is American junk these days.......
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I could see that from an anthropological point of view that yes your argument has merit, there are groups in this world that do exist by a set of values and beliefs that are markedly different to western society, however it does beg the question "Why did they wait until they were drunk and stoned to carry this act out and not carry it out in the normal course as a tribal tradition or protocol?
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Namibia: 'Possessed' girl recovering
Windhoek - The 13-year-old girl Lydia David who is believed to be 'possessed' by demons after she suffered from a strange affliction that caused her to vomit stones, bones, human hair and braids, mahangu grain, thorns, soap and other objects is now doing better after she received prayers from more than five pastors from the Pentecostal churches.
Her elder sister Mwaala Shilongo said on Tuesday when the sad story was published in New Era that she received many calls from pastors of different churches who promised to pray for the girl, because they believed she was possessed.
"More than five pastors came forward to see my sister and prayed for her day and night, we thank New Era for the story because we really received a lot of prayers."
Shilongo said her sister is now doing fine and she is returning to school today, because she no longer vomits the strange objects.
"My sister is no longer demanding Hungry Lion and milk, but eats and drinks everything now although she eats non-stop. She always wants to eat although we give her enough food," Shilongo said. When New Era visited their shack in Goreagab in Katutura this reporter found David playing with a younger sister and looking happy. When the reporter asked her how she is doing she responded that she is doing fine and she is very happy. She said she can't wait to go back to school and that she missed all her classmates.
David apparently started demanding only Oshikandela milk or Hungry Lion when she fell ill. "Once she drinks the milk and eats Hungry Lion (chicken) she starts to vomit stones and all sorts of waste, including soap, human hair and plaited braids," said Shilongo.
Windhoek - The 13-year-old girl Lydia David who is believed to be 'possessed' by demons after she suffered from a strange affliction that caused her to vomit stones, bones, human hair and braids, mahangu grain, thorns, soap and other objects is now doing better after she received prayers from more than five pastors from the Pentecostal churches.
Her elder sister Mwaala Shilongo said on Tuesday when the sad story was published in New Era that she received many calls from pastors of different churches who promised to pray for the girl, because they believed she was possessed.
"More than five pastors came forward to see my sister and prayed for her day and night, we thank New Era for the story because we really received a lot of prayers."
Shilongo said her sister is now doing fine and she is returning to school today, because she no longer vomits the strange objects.
"My sister is no longer demanding Hungry Lion and milk, but eats and drinks everything now although she eats non-stop. She always wants to eat although we give her enough food," Shilongo said. When New Era visited their shack in Goreagab in Katutura this reporter found David playing with a younger sister and looking happy. When the reporter asked her how she is doing she responded that she is doing fine and she is very happy. She said she can't wait to go back to school and that she missed all her classmates.
David apparently started demanding only Oshikandela milk or Hungry Lion when she fell ill. "Once she drinks the milk and eats Hungry Lion (chicken) she starts to vomit stones and all sorts of waste, including soap, human hair and plaited braids," said Shilongo.
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The Grade 6 learner at Havana Primary School sometimes vomited reddish meat bones, mahangu grain, sewing thread and her own beads, which she had not worn for many years, which has baffled relatives and neighbours, who believe that she was possessed by an evil spirit.
According to her elder sister Shilongo, David started fainting and sleeping a lot longer than normal last December. Concerned relatives say she also screams and kicks and fights in her sleep. "Around December 5 she began sweating all over her body, and foam mixed with a lot of saliva came out of her mouth. We thought she was suffering from epilepsy. But when we took her to the hospital, doctors could not diagnose her ailment.
"They took blood samples and even X-rays, but could not see anything wrong with Lydia. They only told us that she must drink a lot of water," said the concerned sister. Two weeks following her visit to the doctor she started experiencing fainting spells, during which she would flail on the ground with foam coming out of her mouth.
"We saw her vomiting a lot of waste including huge stones. If the stones were large then she would struggle to vomit them, but if they are smaller then she does not struggle. These stones come out of her mouth completely dry. They are not coated in saliva or anything. They would be stuck in her mouth for more than 40 to 50 minutes," the elder sister explained.
"After vomiting she would sleep for the whole day. Her strange behaviour normally starts at 06h00 until 12h00 the next day," she said. Shilongo described her sister as a talented and intelligent girl, who performs very well at school and who always comes first in class. "She always passes with good marks and is always number one; maybe someone bewitched her because of her intelligence."
According to her elder sister Shilongo, David started fainting and sleeping a lot longer than normal last December. Concerned relatives say she also screams and kicks and fights in her sleep. "Around December 5 she began sweating all over her body, and foam mixed with a lot of saliva came out of her mouth. We thought she was suffering from epilepsy. But when we took her to the hospital, doctors could not diagnose her ailment.
"They took blood samples and even X-rays, but could not see anything wrong with Lydia. They only told us that she must drink a lot of water," said the concerned sister. Two weeks following her visit to the doctor she started experiencing fainting spells, during which she would flail on the ground with foam coming out of her mouth.
"We saw her vomiting a lot of waste including huge stones. If the stones were large then she would struggle to vomit them, but if they are smaller then she does not struggle. These stones come out of her mouth completely dry. They are not coated in saliva or anything. They would be stuck in her mouth for more than 40 to 50 minutes," the elder sister explained.
"After vomiting she would sleep for the whole day. Her strange behaviour normally starts at 06h00 until 12h00 the next day," she said. Shilongo described her sister as a talented and intelligent girl, who performs very well at school and who always comes first in class. "She always passes with good marks and is always number one; maybe someone bewitched her because of her intelligence."
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Several police officers who happened to be near the scene refrained from stopping the auto-da-fe merely because they were ‘outnumbered’ by the executioners.