The languages of the US (51)
For full context of my quoted statement, some reading in the Israel and Iran is required.
Rich
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I would have to check facts but I don't believe the US actually has an official language. If it does, it would be English. If it doesnt then English is accepted as the language. In either case then, yes I believe people who move here should have the courtesy to learn the language of the land. I grew up in Europe. I didn't go into public places expecting people to cater to me or know what I wanted. If I needed to communicate, I learned how to say it.
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I think the American language is already multilingualed. Out language comes many forms of languages from all over the world. Why make it more confusing than it already is?
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I totally agree with him. English is the American language, and I think its totally wrong to turn everything into spanish for another nation's people who are for the most part illegal. (thats a whole different monster to tackle). I hate the fact that people have to know spanish to get a burger at McDs, or even have to know spanish to take the orders aswell. The sad part is, I'm flueant in Spanish speaking, so i understand them when they talk, but I hate using it so I can do simple tasks like going to the supermarket.
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Its not your language to start with. It doesnt belong to anyone.
The US is a multicultural society that admits many people.
US Citizens do not have to speak English .. look at the Amish.
They only speak English to non-Amish.
Having an issue with changing your pledge to Spanish is understandable.
There are certain groups of people who live in the UK for more than 30 years and do not have one word of English.
A classic example was an Indian gent who was punished by the courts for a traffic violation.
He had been in the UK since the 50s and could not speak English.
His punishment ... ?
Learn enough English to defend yourself in 6 months time.
The US is a multicultural society that admits many people.
US Citizens do not have to speak English .. look at the Amish.
They only speak English to non-Amish.
Having an issue with changing your pledge to Spanish is understandable.
There are certain groups of people who live in the UK for more than 30 years and do not have one word of English.
A classic example was an Indian gent who was punished by the courts for a traffic violation.
He had been in the UK since the 50s and could not speak English.
His punishment ... ?
Learn enough English to defend yourself in 6 months time.
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The movies have made light of this. There is the American trying to read from a English to whatever. I remember one scene where after making the translation the reply from a person who could speak both languages, "I think you just called his wife a goat."
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Having your own language in a community is fine, but when you go out to public places for services and such, its more of spanlish than either or.
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So is it about "turning everything into spanish" or about english and spanish living side by side?
And it's correct that english is not the official language of the US, it is the predominant language. And spanish is the second language.
And it's correct that english is not the official language of the US, it is the predominant language. And spanish is the second language.
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For me personally its things turning to spanish. I live in Kentucky, and I think I'm the only white american within 100 miles. Everyone else is either black or latino.
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Is that a negative thing?
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The melting pot of America has melted so much that feedback in communication is very important. Saying what you think the other said in your own words is a form of translation even the language between two might be considered the same.
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I followed that thread from start to finish. Your statement was really a detour from the subject of the thread, so what is the full context of your statement, as you see it?
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It wasn't a detour, it was a counter to Mitchell's statement saying if I was president, we'd be speaking another language.. twas also amazing he picked German or the other one as opposed to something closer to home just the same.
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But you just said you know spanish, so communicating with the members of your community should be easy, so why do you feel alone?
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Since I'm a very shy person in RL, I don't like being pointed out as albino or rare and such. I just want to blend into the crowd and get my frosted flakes so I can go home and grub 
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Yes, but Mitchell's statement was based on his paranoia of being invaded militarily, and thus forced to adopt the language of the invader, and that's not what it's all about with the spanish, or do you see it as the same thing?
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WHAT????
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I didn't see it as such, there is no dominantly German-speaking country that could ever invade the US. We have too many civilians with guns, it'd be a failed invasion. Second, there are no German speaking countries with enough of a military to take over California, let alone the US. I felt he meant something different. My perspective was a general statement, meaning that under no circumstances would the language change if I were president.
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I think that was exactly what he meant. But I agree with you when it comes to the likelyness of that ever happening.
The issue here is adding spanish as an administrative language, is it not? So, what would be the cons of doing that?
The issue here is adding spanish as an administrative language, is it not? So, what would be the cons of doing that?
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"I am firmly against changing our pledge to Spanish. It's -our- pledge and our country, and I'll be damned.. if someone wants to live in the US they can learn our language or not be there. It's a choice they have, and wouldn't be catered to in that respect."
As a linguist I am curious about this subject, and I would like to hear more opinions about this! Do you agree with the Professor?