stigma of mental illness (130)
jac379: I'm not knocking what you're saying Gra, I can see the value in what you're saying and maybe have an inkling of what you're talking about, but I rather like the mind and find it useful.
I got the impression you spoke of the mind with a certain derision earlier.
I got the impression you spoke of the mind with a certain derision earlier.
Not with derision, but with awareness of the minds ability to take control. I try to make my mind my best friend these days instead of my worst enemy as it once was not so long ago.
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bodleing: Not with derision, but with awareness of the minds ability to take control. I try to make my mind my best friend these days instead of my worst enemy as it once was not so long ago.
That's cool. I can run with that one.
In fact, I think I might pinch that expression, if I may, for future reference.
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tomcatwarne: To be honest with you Pedro, I wouldn't on the info I had B4. I got the impression you thought a lot, a bit outside the box. I don't think any the less of you for your honesty as some people have preconceived notions and prejudices about serious mental illness.
i do think a lot, i consenplate thinking, my aim is to sow new thoughts and emotions which will expand my horizions for a better future
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serena123: Nope
thanks
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jac379: Well, unless you were to post regularly whilst experiencing a psychotic episode, we're not going to know, are we?
true Jac, i was just fishing to get other people's view on there beliefs on a illness
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pedro27: true Jac, i was just fishing to get other people's view on there beliefs on a illness
May I ask, how often you've had psychotic episodes?
Was it just that 2 month nightmare you described earlier?
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jac379: May I ask, how often you've had psychotic episodes?
Was it just that 2 month nightmare you described earlier?
Was it just that 2 month nightmare you described earlier?
the year 2000 when i met my water-loo on a holiday in Tenerife when my first experiance of the unknown of my mind and still precular when i look back and try find a conclusion and found there is none..
...about 8 times i had a psychotic break, and hospitalised for a stay for 6 weeks each time i was well after enough to continue with daily life. i have learnt how to control my emotions and get by in modern style which is a plus
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pedro27: the year 2000 when i met my water-loo on a holiday in Tenerife when my first experiance of the unknown of my mind and still precular when i look back and try find a conclusion and found there is none..
...about 8 times i had a psychotic break, and hospitalised for a stay for 6 weeks each time i was well after enough to continue with daily life. i have learnt how to control my emotions and get by in modern style which is a plus
...about 8 times i had a psychotic break, and hospitalised for a stay for 6 weeks each time i was well after enough to continue with daily life. i have learnt how to control my emotions and get by in modern style which is a plus
Have you found that learning to control your emotions has had a positive impact upon on the control of your psychotic episodes?
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Am not an expert on "mental disorder", though i personally believe, in a range from O to 180 degree,each and every one of us,is affected.
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jac379: Does it feel better knowing you have some level of control over the psychotic episodes?
i had no control over any psychotics episodes ive had and don't think anyone can control a psychotic episode, what i can now control is the way i feel which i learnt to do over many years
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bodleing: That is a giant step forward pedro. Most of our negative emotions are based in fear, once we realise we alone are generating that fear we can then just as easily reject it. This is what I meant when I said to jac earlier...Try to make your mind your best friend instead of your worst enemy.
thanks Bodleing.
when i look back it was severe fear that drove me over board into a state of bewilderment, i'm only learning now to resist fear and worry a little bit of fear and worry is not to bad, but in my case when it stressed me so much that i'd crack into obilvious i knew i had to correct how i feel, by dumping severe fear and worry
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pedro27: thanks Bodleing.
when i look back it was severe fear that drove me over board into a state of bewilderment, i'm only learning now to resist fear and worry a little bit of fear and worry is not to bad, but in my case when it stressed me so much that i'd crack into obilvious i knew i had to correct how i feel, by dumping severe fear and worry
Keep positive Pedro when i look back it was severe fear that drove me over board into a state of bewilderment, i'm only learning now to resist fear and worry a little bit of fear and worry is not to bad, but in my case when it stressed me so much that i'd crack into obilvious i knew i had to correct how i feel, by dumping severe fear and worry
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rebel2: Keep positive Pedro
can't let nagatived win the race no no no, i take it in my stride now
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pedro27: thanks Bodleing.
when i look back it was severe fear that drove me over board into a state of bewilderment, i'm only learning now to resist fear and worry a little bit of fear and worry is not to bad, but in my case when it stressed me so much that i'd crack into obilvious i knew i had to correct how i feel, by dumping severe fear and worry
when i look back it was severe fear that drove me over board into a state of bewilderment, i'm only learning now to resist fear and worry a little bit of fear and worry is not to bad, but in my case when it stressed me so much that i'd crack into obilvious i knew i had to correct how i feel, by dumping severe fear and worry
Psychological fear is divorced from any concrete and true danger, it's always about something that might happen, not something that's happening now. You are in the here and now but your mind is in the future creating extreme anxiety. If you are identified with your mind and are not present in the now, anxiety will be your constant companion.
To be totally in the present moment is to be without anxiety, without irrational fear and free of the egotic mind which is the root of all emotional fear.
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pedro27: can't let nagatived win the race no no no, i take it in my stride now
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bodleing: Psychological fear is divorced from any concrete and true danger, it's always about something that might happen, not something that's happening now. You are in the here and now but your mind is in the future creating extreme anxiety. If you are identified with your mind and are not present in the now, anxiety will be your constant companion.
To be totally in the present moment is to be without anxiety, without irrational fear and free of the egotic mind which is the root of all emotional fear.
To be totally in the present moment is to be without anxiety, without irrational fear and free of the egotic mind which is the root of all emotional fear.
I 'spect rock climbing helps with that rationale.
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pedro27: i had no control over any psychotics episodes ive had and don't think anyone can control a psychotic episode, what i can now control is the way i feel which i learnt to do over many years
Good to be able to talk Pedro, but don´t rely too heavily on internet advice
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jac379: I 'spect rock climbing helps with that rationale.
Absolutely...as with any extreme sport, being present in the moment, beyond thought is key. Whether you are tackling the crux of a hard climb or skiing a challenging black run, the mind is momentarily redundant. There is no place for doubts or fear, for allowing such thoughts would almost certainly mean failure. We reach our greatest 'highs' when we go beyond thought, because beyond thought there is no fear...we have found our true being.
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hoolet: Good to be able to talk Pedro, but don´t rely too heavily on internet advice
But isn't that a piece of internet advice?
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But don't try to grasp it, don't try to understand it. Being can be felt but it can never be understood mentally.
To regain awareness of being is enlightenment, but maybe this is a subject for another thread.
I'm not knocking what you're saying Gra, I can see the value in what you're saying and maybe have an inkling of what you're talking about, but I rather like the mind and find it useful.
I got the impression you spoke of the mind with a certain derision earlier.