HIgh School Scare ( Archived) (73)

Jan 16, 2014 4:36 PM CST HIgh School Scare
Obstinance_Works: Wow! It's like living in a film. Your culture has become a breeding ground for sociopaths. There is no chance that you'll put a man on the moon again.


Of course we'll get a man on the moon again. Once I give your behind the kick it needs, you'll be there in 60 seconds flat Rumples. giggle
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Jan 16, 2014 4:38 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Kaybee50: For earthquakes, the children are to stand in the doorways.
For tornados (we don't have desks at the pre-school), they are to sit in the downstairs hallway and in a crouched position with their arms covering their heads.
For possible violence, it's a whole different enchilada.

No, I meant the difference in psychological impact, not the practicalities of the drill itself.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:38 PM CST HIgh School Scare
2girlsnocup: He found it somehow. It's not like he's been walking into random buildings daily for a while, seeing what'll happen.


The high school and my workplace are separate locations. 2 minutes walk.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:40 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379: No, I meant the difference in psychological impact, not the practicalities of the drill itself.


I know Jac. I was just providing information on the "how's" of emergency procedures.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:42 PM CST HIgh School Scare
2girlsnocup
2girlsnocup2girlsnocupunknown, Greater London, England UK28 Threads 1 Polls 2,621 Posts
Kaybee50: The high school and my workplace are separate locations. 2 minutes walk.


I wasn't on about the high school. That's listed as you'd said.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:50 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Kaybee50: I know Jac. I was just providing information on the "how's" of emergency procedures.

Okay, no worries. I was trying to wheedle an opinion out of you. laugh
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Jan 16, 2014 4:50 PM CST HIgh School Scare
2girlsnocup: I wasn't on about the high school. That's listed as you'd said.


I'm sorry. I have mush-for-brains at the moment.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:51 PM CST HIgh School Scare
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
I am sorry for the panic that children and some adults might have gotten for it KB.

The man should be fined and your school should re.evalute its safety measures and it is better not to comment on the safety procedures for people to know the details, just a precautionary approach.

Improve the safety of your school, it is always possible and best of all try improve your mental response to risks in a better way.


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Jan 16, 2014 4:54 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379: Okay, no worries. I was trying to wheedle an opinion out of you.


I'm thinking this can influence a child with long lasting consequences.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:56 PM CST HIgh School Scare
2girlsnocup
2girlsnocup2girlsnocupunknown, Greater London, England UK28 Threads 1 Polls 2,621 Posts
lifeisadream: I am sorry for the panic that children and some adults might have gotten for it KB.

The man should be fined and your school should re.evalute its safety measures and it is better not to comment on the safety procedures for people to know the details, just a precautionary approach.

Improve the safety of your school, it is always possible and best of all try improve your mental response to risks in a better way.


Why? They worked, didn't they?

If it wasn't a reporter, but some lunatic with a gun, would the measures need to be any different?

I just don't get this. Something works well. Someone tests them, and everyone is up in arms about it.
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Jan 16, 2014 4:57 PM CST HIgh School Scare
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
lifeisadream: I am sorry for the panic that children and some adults might have gotten for it KB.

The man should be fined and your school should re.evalute its safety measures and it is better not to comment on the safety procedures for people to know the details, just a precautionary approach.

Improve the safety of your school, it is always possible and best of all try improve your mental response to risks in a better way.
Good point about not making public the response procedures. However, there is nothing that will acclimate and sharpen the mental response like the real deal.
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Jan 16, 2014 5:03 PM CST HIgh School Scare
lifeisadream: I am sorry for the panic that children and some adults might have gotten for it KB.

The man should be fined and your school should re.evalute its safety measures and it is better not to comment on the safety procedures for people to know the details, just a precautionary approach.

Improve the safety of your school, it is always possible and best of all try improve your mental response to risks in a better way.


But I'm sure the reporter's intent is to make his experience public knowledge. But he will not be sharing the entire story, the part of the story he himself doesn't even know about...2 minutes away.
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Jan 16, 2014 5:06 PM CST HIgh School Scare
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
2girlsnocup: Why? They worked, didn't they?

If it wasn't a reporter, but some lunatic with a gun, would the measures need to be any different?

I just don't get this. Something works well. Someone tests them, and everyone is up in arms about it.


It did worked well this time in the presence of a guy whom had no gun.

My specifying of reevaluation is to look for flaws and correct them.

There is not perfect system for anything and you can improve the safety systems always.


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Jan 16, 2014 5:07 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
CapNemo: Good point about not making public the response procedures. However, there is nothing that will acclimate and sharpen the mental response like the real deal.

Sharpening the mental response of toddlers?
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Jan 16, 2014 5:08 PM CST HIgh School Scare
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
jac379: Sharpening the mental response of toddlers?
Yes. And everyone else involved. It's never too early to train and educate.
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Jan 16, 2014 5:10 PM CST HIgh School Scare
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
lifeisadream: It did worked well this time in the presence of a guy whom had no gun.

My specifying of reevaluation is to look for flaws and correct them.

There is not perfect system for anything and you can improve the safety systems always.
Absolutely agree!
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Jan 16, 2014 5:10 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Kaybee50: I'm thinking this can influence a child with long lasting consequences.

I'm sure both potential natural events and potential violent ones are terribly frightening for children (and adults), but I wonder how potential violent events might affect trust in human beings.

I suspect the ramifications of that may be far reaching.
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Jan 16, 2014 5:13 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
CapNemo: Yes. And everyone else involved. It's never too early to train and educate.

Hmmm...whilst I agree with the sentiments of early education (I'd advocate that in terms of social skills including teaching children to protect themselves from becoming victims of predators, or even abusive themselves), there is such a thing as age appropriate education.
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Jan 16, 2014 5:13 PM CST HIgh School Scare
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
CapNemo: Good point about not making public the response procedures. However, there is nothing that will acclimate and sharpen the mental response like the real deal.


This was real yet gladly not consequences at all and can be a good exercise and also you have to think in probable scenarios and think what your response should be and think again.

I can tell you that I see a suspicious guy and my hand go to my blazer's pocket immediately or to some other pocket and I am mentally prepared and I will not let him/her to get closer.



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Jan 16, 2014 5:21 PM CST HIgh School Scare
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
CapNemo: Good point about not making public the response procedures. However, there is nothing that will acclimate and sharpen the mental response like the real deal.


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i don't disagree with the point you are making. it's not just inside the school that needs to be prepared.

but i gotta add....

having experienced the 'real deal' several times...
this wasn't the real deal, in that the intruder did not actually pose a threat.

i'm still pondering though...regarding its value, as i know first hand that our own school improved its lockdown procedures as a result of a real lockdown. this information was then shared with other schools.

i still think there should be consequences for the reporter.

or are you advocating that each and every parent or concerned citizen has the right to enter a school unannounced, as an unidentified intruder, and conduct their own lockdown drill?
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