Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus ( Archived) (9)

Apr 11, 2014 7:59 PM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
This happened on route 5 in Northern California. What isn't mentioned in this article is that this was a "Tandem Rig" in other words it was 1 tractor pulling 2 trailers. This is not uncommon in the US in fact back in the 1990's there was a movement aimed at allowing "Triples" (1 tractor pulling 3 trailers) This never materialized however. Obviously the logic behind triples was profit with less regard for safety. I understand that they have triples in Australia and I'm sure one of our Aussies will chime in on that.
As a former trucker I would like to make a few points. Nobody maintains their trucks better than FedEx, and only the most experienced seasoned drivers get behind the wheel of a Tandem rig.

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Apr 12, 2014 6:16 AM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
Brannigan70
Brannigan70Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland35 Threads 2,339 Posts
ooby_dooby: This happened on route 5 in Northern California. What isn't mentioned in this article is that this was a "Tandem Rig" in other words it was 1 tractor pulling 2 trailers. This is not uncommon in the US in fact back in the 1990's there was a movement aimed at allowing "Triples" (1 tractor pulling 3 trailers) This never materialized however. Obviously the logic behind triples was profit with less regard for safety. I understand that they have triples in Australia and I'm sure one of our Aussies will chime in on that.
As a former trucker I would like to make a few points. Nobody maintains their trucks better than FedEx, and only the most experienced seasoned drivers get behind the wheel of a Tandem rig.

An unfortunate fact of life though in the haulage industry is drivers who drive beyond the maximum 4.5 hours without a rest irrespective of how well maintained their truck is
I have driven trucks also albeit rigids but same applies , however I've been fortunate enough not to have worked for any company who adopts this policy

Companies , not all of them of course be they larger or smaller ultimately put pressure on their drivers to 'extend' their driving hours to 'deliver the goods' so to speak but at what cost to safety .
I have driven trucks also albeit rigids, however I've been fortunate enough not to have worked for any company who adopts this policy .

The accident could well be an example of this
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Apr 12, 2014 6:19 AM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
Brannigan70
Brannigan70Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland35 Threads 2,339 Posts
*I have driven trucks also albeit rigids but same applies , however I've been fortunate enough not to have worked for any company who adopts this policy*

Forgot to delete after copy/paste in my reply
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Apr 12, 2014 7:50 AM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
No sweat brannigan we all do stuff like that. I was wondering what could have caused this big rig to drive across the grassy median and I figure it's probably that the driver either had a heart attack or a seizure. I can't believe it was a case of driver fatigue due to excess hours on the road. From what I read both trailers were empty which means there was no urgency to meet delivery deadlines. More likely just a case of moving assets from point A to point B. We may never learn the real cause.
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Apr 12, 2014 8:00 AM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
I lived in California for many years within a mile of interstate 5. it is very possible that a strong wind gust might have pushed the tractor and unloaded trailers to the shoulder where he lost control and was (for lack of a better word) sucked into the median and then across into oncoming traffic.
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Apr 12, 2014 8:03 AM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
Also, it's not likely that a Co like FedEx would fool around with HOS rules (Hours of Service). Usually it's the small Co's that are trying to make it on the cheap that play those games which include bypassing scales with overloaded trucks etc.
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Apr 12, 2014 8:07 AM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
i actually just read the latest on that accident. the city of orland is about 20 miles from where i grew up and the wind gusts off of the foothills can get pretty wicked. that could be a possibility. they have yet to release any information on the drivers hours or if anything was in his system or even an autopsy to provide clues as to if he had a heart attack or something similar. i suppose all we can do is wait and speculate.
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Apr 12, 2014 12:24 PM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
Brannigan70
Brannigan70Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland35 Threads 2,339 Posts
ooby_dooby: No sweat brannigan we all do stuff like that. I was wondering what could have caused this big rig to drive across the grassy median and I figure it's probably that the driver either had a heart attack or a seizure. I can't believe it was a case of driver fatigue due to excess hours on the road. From what I read both trailers were empty which means there was no urgency to meet delivery deadlines. More likely just a case of moving assets from point A to point B. We may never learn the real cause.
It's quite possible he had a seizure/heart attack or similar .
Good point too , FedEx can't afford to lose their image/reputation by messing around where safety is concerned .

Lets hope the accident investigators can put the pieces together to try bring closure for the families of those lost sad flower
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Apr 13, 2014 10:59 PM CST Horrible accident tractor trailer head on with school bus
Such a tragedy. crying
They're looking into the previous 72 hours of the FedEx driver, hoping it will give them some clues. The "black boxes" containing vital info were incinerated, but somehow they were able to get tissue and/or blood for toxicology.
I feel so bad for these young students' family.sad flower
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