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Nov 17, 2015 4:05 PM CST Iron Curtain
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Babettefr: They were not from Syria, they are from France and Belgium and even french citizens,, they are piloted by the isis in Syria.

France and the entire Europe didn't see this things coming.

Now the real question is,,, why they turn radical and join the ISIS?


I think they must have been brainwashed by ISIS agents. No human in their right minds would execute such an act
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Nov 17, 2015 4:10 PM CST Iron Curtain
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Adalstef: Thats my point, we should not intervene in the matters of the middle east. Let them fight each other and deal with their matters



Yes, that should be the case,, but we did step into their lands and troubles,, and now we have the price to pay, and could the blame be just on them,, and their bloody revenge,, in the fact that because they have god as allah so they could turn deadly killers?
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Nov 17, 2015 4:15 PM CST Iron Curtain
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Adalstef: I think they must have been brainwashed by ISIS agents. No human in their right minds would execute such an act



In the overall context, the society has to answer too,,
Why these youths had become a fertile minds for brainwashing?
If the ISIS did succeded in brainwashing these youths,, why the society failed to brainwash them into the right way?
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Nov 17, 2015 4:24 PM CST Iron Curtain
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
Babettefr: Yes, that should be the case,, but we did step into their lands and troubles,, and now we have the price to pay, and could the blame be just on them,, and their bloody revenge,, in the fact that because they have god as allah so they could turn deadly killers?


They stepped into our contris as well. Spain was ruled by Moors for 500 yrs, muslim armies invaded europe and got as far as France. They even invaded Iceland.
The funniest is, their God is the same God as ours, only the prophet is different. We have Jesus, they have Muhammed
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Nov 17, 2015 4:34 PM CST Iron Curtain
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Adalstef: They stepped into our contris as well. Spain was ruled by Moors for 500 yrs, muslim armies invaded europe and got as far as France. They even invaded Iceland.
The funniest is, their God is the same God as ours, only the prophet is different. We have Jesus, they have Muhammed



And so nothing to do with this humanity.
It's just a question of which era the invassions have to take place, as history is repeating itself as we would observe;
Spain ruled my country too ,, the Philippines for 400 years.

About GOD, i will always negate the notion that there's a Godly intervention in whatever humanity is doing,, good or bad.
Things that happened are reality and tangent, unlike God, it's just in the spirit and why not imaginary?
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Nov 17, 2015 4:39 PM CST Iron Curtain
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Babettefr: And so nothing to do with this humanity.
It's just a question of which era the invassions have to take place, as history is repeating itself as we would observe;
Spain ruled my country too ,, the Philippines for 400 years.

About GOD, i will always negate the notion that there's a Godly intervention in whatever humanity is doing,, good or bad.
Things that happened are reality and tangent, unlike God, it's just in the spirit and why not imaginary?


And the Spanish ruling in the Philippines was a bloody one too, there were land grabbings, executions, and many more crimes/evil doings despite the christian religion that they are preaching which goes along with it the famous ten commnadments. Funny the humans,,,
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Nov 17, 2015 5:39 PM CST Iron Curtain
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Adalstef: Id say to them, instead of fleeing by millions to other countries, use this mass of people and stand your ground and drive them off your hands


Do you have any idea of what is to have a criminal around, even if a dozen?

The criminals here are as bloody (sanguinary) as the ones there in the ME and I can tell you:
Had you encounter one I bet you that your chances of getting alive are below 50 %

How is it possible that only few criminals-terrorists can turn backwards a country?

Well they do and assuming the west wanted to help, you have seen that not one but several armies from developed countries they had not been able to put a stop to those terrorists and you want a common citizen fight them back !

It is not a matter of numbers.

Should the terrorists be wiped, of course but after killing them other will get out and on and on. The solution to end the problem goes beyond killing them.

There has to be a government in power
(not a gov that USA or RUSSIA want) there has to be a leadership for all the ethnic groups and that gov must have the support to deal with their internal problems and enclose those problems within their borders.




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Nov 18, 2015 9:24 AM CST Iron Curtain
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
lifeisadream: ... Not Iceland's that I know of so far.


Btw Iceland has canceled its application for entering the Economic European Union, last year.

Yeap Icelanders do not want to be part of the Economic European Union.

Is that a Smart move?



coffee
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Nov 18, 2015 10:48 AM CST Iron Curtain
Adalstef
AdalstefAdalstefReykjavik, Northwest Iceland94 Threads 896 Posts
lifeisadream: Btw Iceland has canceled its application for entering the Economic European Union, last year.

Yeap Icelanders do not want to be part of the Economic European Union.

Is that a Smart move?

Iceland is in EFTA and has adopted 90% of european law.
We want, and are, in trade union with europe (and china) but we dont want to surrender compleatly to Brussel.
We have abundant natural resources that we want to control, not some bureaucrats in Brussel.
So yes, its a smart move
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Nov 18, 2015 11:32 AM CST Iron Curtain
caramel345
caramel345caramel345Jakarta, Indonesia55 Posts
lindsyjones: On the one hand, didn't Jesus say: When they slap you in the face, offer the other side, too?

How would have He reacted on the attacks? Can you tell me?


Lindsy, I've been reading some of your posts. I like your approach on how to handle this.
As minority in my country, I have seen, heard and respond to calling for prayers every time we heard churches burnt down, christian families threatened and killed and...none of those occurred on the news or raise a viral concern. But once an event looked like an attack on the other side, its a major scale talk and new concerning regulations ruled out for us. When did this started happening? only history can tell and its quite similar to what happen globally right now, distributions of muslim families. We are literally having our mouth taped, and all left to 'love your enemies'.
So, imagine when your 'high on humanity' countries flooded by breeding muslims (yes, they prohibited contraception). Why do you think they are not interested to enter China. They kill the 3rd child..., and pork is everywhere.. lol..jus sayin.

Oh, and I like the iron curtain idea!
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Nov 18, 2015 12:32 PM CST Iron Curtain
Adalstef: Iceland is in EFTA and has adopted 90% of european law.
We want, and are, in trade union with europe (and china) but we dont want to surrender compleatly to Brussel.
We have abundant natural resources that we want to control, not some bureaucrats in Brussel.
So yes, its a smart move
you bet it is!thumbs up
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Nov 18, 2015 12:36 PM CST Iron Curtain
lindsyjones: On the one hand, didn't Jesus say: When they slap you in the face, offer the other side, too?

How would have He reacted on the attacks? Can you tell me?

only problem is when you run out of Cheeks,as you invariably will!
What are you going to do then?
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Nov 18, 2015 12:39 PM CST Iron Curtain
lindsyjones: On the one hand, didn't Jesus say: When they slap you in the face, offer the other side, too?

How would have He reacted on the attacks? Can you tell me?



Luke 22:36
New International Version (NIV)

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
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Nov 18, 2015 4:50 PM CST Iron Curtain
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Adalstef: Iceland is in EFTA and has adopted 90% of european law.
We want, and are, in trade union with europe (and china) but we dont want to surrender compleatly to Brussel.
We have abundant natural resources that we want to control, not some bureaucrats in Brussel.
So yes, its a smart move

Of course, it is a smart move this time.


coffee
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Nov 18, 2015 4:51 PM CST Iron Curtain
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: Luke 22:36
New International Version (NIV)

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.


You religious Comrad?


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Nov 18, 2015 10:46 PM CST Iron Curtain
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
The plan to destroy all of the governments of the Mid East so the corporations can just take all the oil they want is going quite well I think. Lebanon, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria.. One by one. Divide and conquer rules.
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Nov 18, 2015 11:39 PM CST Iron Curtain
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
lifeisadream: When did you say the west is getting out of the ME?

Will "your" West leave those countries as they were before?

What would you tell to the Mothers/family of the
200,000 Syrians Killed?so farWhat would you say to the Syrians left?
That they lost their beloved ones, they lost their homes and they lost their belongings and they also have lost a great part of their heritage because of your "helping" them.


No, I would say " You should have stopped the evil when it first started, and that by the time you ASKED the west to help, it was too late"
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Nov 19, 2015 9:07 PM CST Iron Curtain
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
rizlared: No, I would say " You should have stopped the evil when it first started, and that by the time you ASKED the west to help, it was too late"


" You should have stopped the evil when it first started.."

Me?

Thanks for the confidence vote but not I am not capable of, no matter how I wish to. laugh

Do you want to have a good discussion, even a debate?

Do your homework and get informed and bring it on.

flex


wine
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