Cancel the election and JUST GIVE IT TO TRUMP? (32)
Trump is Putin's puppet, and so are a lot of Trumpy lovers. Theyre gonna make America great!?
Maybe they should start by respecting America. What discrace they are.
"I looked in his eyes and I could tell he was a good man".
quote from George Bush, another Republican loser.
Maybe they should start by respecting America. What discrace they are.
"I looked in his eyes and I could tell he was a good man".
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Russia is one of the rare countries nowadays that asserts its national sovreignty; the West goes with the principle: if we do not like the regime of any country, we will do whatever it takes to overthrow it.
Listen to at least the first 10 minutes of P. Hitchens talk, he does make sense, unless you are totally brainwashed.
Listen to at least the first 10 minutes of P. Hitchens talk, he does make sense, unless you are totally brainwashed.
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Rumples: Stalinism being a nationalistic and social conservative form of Communism which retained the concepts of competition and incentive from the old capitalist system.
I would contend that Putin is a nationalistic and social conservative form of collectivism that is less competitive and incentive-driven than Stalinism. Putin's gangsterism is even less dynamic than state planning.
I would contend that Putin is a nationalistic and social conservative form of collectivism that is less competitive and incentive-driven than Stalinism. Putin's gangsterism is even less dynamic than state planning.
If Putin is the Stalin of today and the liberal western establishment now is the equivalent of the laissez-faire western establishment of before, then who we must be is Tito.
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Capricorn143: Russia is one of the rare countries nowadays that asserts its national sovreignty; the West goes with the principle: if we do not like the regime of any country, we will do whatever it takes to overthrow it.
Listen to at least the first 10 minutes of P. Hitchens talk, he does make sense, unless you are totally brainwashed.
Listen to at least the first 10 minutes of P. Hitchens talk, he does make sense, unless you are totally brainwashed.
Anyone notice this comment to the video..
Andreas Andreotti2 months ago (edited)
English pretend to be correct in many things but probably not while sitting and disturbing an interesting debate by coughing constantly and not even when they are on vacation outside Britain. While on vacation outside England they are loud, arrogant and behave like vandals!
Sorry to say that but I experienced it myself so many times.
I witnessed an incident in Crete once where a brave strong Cretan kicked a gang of them into the sea after warning them to behave civilized and not disturb the people eating in the same restaurant. The guests applauded the brave Cretan and the mob disappeared from the restaurant shouting and yelling like mad dogs!
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Capricorn143: Russia is one of the rare countries nowadays that asserts its national sovreignty; the West goes with the principle: if we do not like the regime of any country, we will do whatever it takes to overthrow it.
Listen to at least the first 10 minutes of P. Hitchens talk, he does make sense, unless you are totally brainwashed.
Listen to at least the first 10 minutes of P. Hitchens talk, he does make sense, unless you are totally brainwashed.
Are you for real? Russia in Afghanistan, Russia in Syria, Russia in Artic, Russia drooling on Eastern Europe, Russia conquers Ukraine, Russia threatens to take back Alaska, Russia starts up a new cold war. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!!! REPUBLICAN COWARDS FOR CONGRESS!!!!
WE LOVE PUTIN!!!!!!
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In response to: huu uh... Cancel the election and JUST GIVE IT TO TRUMP???.... WOW!! ...proof of Trump's arrogance, pride, and feeling of entitlement... what makes Trump think he is entitled to, and should be just given the office of President without work? Trump thinks more highly of himself than he ought... that's his down fall... he thinks and feel he deserve the office but on what grounds?...he also thinks everyone in America is for him...WRONG! What a complete idiot this fellow is....
Trump: 'We should cancel the election'
Published October 27, 2016 FoxNews.com
Republican candidate Donald Trump joked with supporters in Ohio Thursday that next month's election should be canceled and he should automatically be made president.
"Just thinking to myself right now, we should cancel the election and just give it to Trump," the real estate mogul said in Toledo, where he held one of a series of rallies in the battleground state.
The GOP nominee had been talking about Democrat Hillary Clinton's tax policies, saying that they "are so bad. What a difference."
There was no immediate reaction to Trump's remark from the Clinton campaign, which has accused the GOP nominee of trying to depress voter turnout.
At the Toledo rally, Trump repeated his criticism that Clinton was too tough on Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"No wonder Putin doesn’t like her, the way she talks about him," Trump said. "How can he get along with her?"
Foxnews.com
Trump: 'We should cancel the election'
Published October 27, 2016 FoxNews.com
Republican candidate Donald Trump joked with supporters in Ohio Thursday that next month's election should be canceled and he should automatically be made president.
"Just thinking to myself right now, we should cancel the election and just give it to Trump," the real estate mogul said in Toledo, where he held one of a series of rallies in the battleground state.
The GOP nominee had been talking about Democrat Hillary Clinton's tax policies, saying that they "are so bad. What a difference."
There was no immediate reaction to Trump's remark from the Clinton campaign, which has accused the GOP nominee of trying to depress voter turnout.
At the Toledo rally, Trump repeated his criticism that Clinton was too tough on Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"No wonder Putin doesn’t like her, the way she talks about him," Trump said. "How can he get along with her?"
Foxnews.com
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raphael119: Are you for real? Russia in Afghanistan, Russia in Syria, Russia in Artic, Russia drooling on Eastern Europe, Russia conquers Ukraine, Russia threatens to take back Alaska, Russia starts up a new cold war. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!!! REPUBLICAN COWARDS FOR CONGRESS!!!!
WE LOVE PUTIN!!!!!!
WE LOVE PUTIN!!!!!!
I think you should get your info from some other sources not only from the propaganda US media machine. Russia is not the one trying to squeeze the US/West to the smallest space possible, it is the opposite! Russia is not the same as Soviet Union either. The mess in the world today has been created by the West not Russia. And I am definitely no fan of Putin's, have never been a fan of SU or Russia either. However, what is going on in the world today is just absurd.
And Putin cannot be that bad:
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Rumples: If Putin is the Stalin of today and the liberal western establishment now is the equivalent of the laissez-faire western establishment of before, then who we must be is Tito.
The matter of the fact is that Putin is not Stalin, and the West sadly has turned into a lunatic or just a puppet in the hands of the famous 1%.
Anyway, I lived under Tito and it wasn't bad. Material things are not the only ones that matter.
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Rumples: Stalinism being a nationalistic and social conservative form of Communism which retained the concepts of competition and incentive from the old capitalist system.
I would contend that Putin is a nationalistic and social conservative form of collectivism that is less competitive and incentive-driven than Stalinism. Putin's gangsterism is even less dynamic than state planning.
I would contend that Putin is a nationalistic and social conservative form of collectivism that is less competitive and incentive-driven than Stalinism. Putin's gangsterism is even less dynamic than state planning.
Thanks to no-fault divorce the streets of Moscow were piling up with homeless children and this tarnished the image of communism and from here they realised that achieving anything economically progressive relies on retaining traditional values.
Singledom exploded after the Bolshevik revolution of 1917 - in a similar way to how it did in the 1970s after the counterculture - and because the Soviets had to fend for themselves and create something unlike western liberals who create nothing and pay for their goodies by pillaging what's already there, the Soviets realised that to succeed you need to have social conservativism. Western leftists who are not burdened by the responsibility of needing to be a success have the social values and attitudes towards discipline which are the antithesis of achievement and if the left is ever asked to actually achieve something it must become authoritarian and adopt many social values which are decisively not bohemian.
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ctrl-alt-delete the whole thing!
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Rumples: Bill Clinton to some extent saw through it all by being the one, although in hindsight not that successfully, who policed the streets and policed the economy(social discipline with social planning). He re-arranged the set political positions and assumptions of his electorate into something compatible with itself and therefore capable of performance.
In this day we have some on the right who would chop a kiddy's hands off for stealing a bun(if only the Muslims didn't do that!)yet if you've got the money then there should be no law for you.
And on the left we have those who at every turn encourage the proliferation of selfish and irresponsible bohemian drifters yet bash bankers for not caring about anybody else.
Effectively our politics is a middle class politics where the right attempts to repress the poor and the left attempts to repress the rich - the middle never even considers itself to be part of the problem - and the idea of sharing rights and responsibilities equally across society does not exist in the tribal modern politics ushered in by the Baby Boomer generation.
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Rumples: In this day we have some on the right who would chop a kiddy's hands off for stealing a bun(if only the Muslims didn't do that!)yet if you've got the money then there should be no law for you.
And on the left we have those who at every turn encourage the proliferation of selfish and irresponsible bohemian drifters yet bash bankers for not caring about anybody else.
Effectively our politics is a middle class politics where the right attempts to repress the poor and the left attempts to repress the rich - the middle never even considers itself to be part of the problem - and the idea of sharing rights and responsibilities equally across society does not exist in the tribal modern politics ushered in by the Baby Boomer generation.
And on the left we have those who at every turn encourage the proliferation of selfish and irresponsible bohemian drifters yet bash bankers for not caring about anybody else.
Effectively our politics is a middle class politics where the right attempts to repress the poor and the left attempts to repress the rich - the middle never even considers itself to be part of the problem - and the idea of sharing rights and responsibilities equally across society does not exist in the tribal modern politics ushered in by the Baby Boomer generation.
And now what do you have? The age-old recurring alliance between the peasants(the little guys)and the aristocracy(Trump)against the middle class establishment.
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Rumples: And now what do you have? The age-old recurring alliance between the peasants(the little guys)and the aristocracy(Trump)against the middle class establishment.
Celebrity is aristocracy by its modern name.
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Rumples: There are actually two differences between aristocracy and celebrity - one is that the aristocracy are more cultured and refined because the height of the brow isn't set by the level of the mob(consumer capitalism), and the second is that celebrities are not necessarily born into money.(although the second difference doesn't even apply in this case)
And this reflects the difference between a conservative and a capitalist and the European Right and the American Right. If all consumers in their free choices decide to never read a book and only gluttonously stuff their face with crap then this is a problem for the conservative and the European right, but to the American liberal capitalist it isn't a problem. The American right through consumer capitalism will drive the level of culture through the gutter and beyond and see no civilised reason to not do this. Anything but this would be a restriction of liberty and choice.
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Rumples: And this reflects the difference between a conservative and a capitalist and the European Right and the American Right. If all consumers in their free choices decide to never read a book and only gluttonously stuff their face with crap then this is a problem for the conservative and the European right, but to the American liberal capitalist it isn't a problem. The American right through consumer capitalism will drive the level of culture through the gutter and beyond and see no civilised reason to not do this. Anything but this would be a restriction of liberty and choice.
I.e. Reagan. Reagan(or at least his era)was right wing politics at its lowest cultural ebb where conservative values were sacrificed in favour of unfettered capitalism and the worst instincts of the consumer.
All in all this reflects the "maturing" of the baby boomers. The 1980s was the decade where baby boomers assumed control of society and their entitled attitudes and incorrigible natures ended the idea that society must try to civilise the citizen and the citizen has a duty to respect his civilising superiors. The 1980s was greedy capitalism for selfish and irresponsible former hippies and everything became about me, what my country can do for me, and not what I can do for my country.
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Rumples: God only knows how the Christian Right ended up in bed with libertarian social darwinists. How Jesus and Ayn Rand can be figureheads of the same movement is something really special. Anyway Gluttony is supposed to be a biblical sin, and yet I've heard many a bible basher consider that adequately labeling food(let alone introducing a fat tax)is excessive state intrusion. Religion once upon a time, just like conservatism, was about promoting social discipline and curbing egotism and yet they shoot down social discipline at every turn and encourage the growth of sin, hubris and excess. They're Ayn Rand in a vicar's clothing.
That Jesus/Ayn Rand contradiction is fairly obvious to even the shallowest thinker. The contradiction on the America left is the John Lennon/Average Joe contradiction. Like the wealthy bourgeois bohemian they like open borders for LALA land reasons and because it drives down the cost of fresh produce and other goods at the expense of working class wages, and yet it purportedly claims to defend the poor.
The American right seems to adopt the prole rhetoric(if not so much the practice)of social conservatism and combines it with pro-rich economic liberalism, and the American left combines pro-rich cultural values with economic redistribution. The average Joe and John Lennon have as much in common as Ayn Rand and Jesus, yet American politics has formed itself into these two self-contradictory groups.
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Rumples: That Jesus/Ayn Rand contradiction is fairly obvious to even the shallowest thinker. The contradiction on the America left is the John Lennon/Average Joe contradiction. Like the wealthy bourgeois bohemian they like open borders for LALA land reasons and because it drives down the cost of fresh produce and other goods at the expense of working class wages, and yet it purportedly claims to defend the poor.
The American right seems to adopt the prole rhetoric(if not so much the practice)of social conservatism and combines it with pro-rich economic liberalism, and the American left combines pro-rich cultural values with economic redistribution. The average Joe and John Lennon have as much in common as Ayn Rand and Jesus, yet American politics has formed itself into these two self-contradictory groups.
The American right seems to adopt the prole rhetoric(if not so much the practice)of social conservatism and combines it with pro-rich economic liberalism, and the American left combines pro-rich cultural values with economic redistribution. The average Joe and John Lennon have as much in common as Ayn Rand and Jesus, yet American politics has formed itself into these two self-contradictory groups.
The only consistent faction in American politics are libertarian purists who despise Trump and want to privatise everything, open all the borders, and are indifferent to gay rights etc from the position of self-interest. Libertarianism means liberalism across the board and open borders means open for business.
It remains to be seen whether Trump will betray the nationalist proles and go over to the side of open border libertarian traitors. Tight borders and protectionism means statism(the horror!)and open borders means open for exploitation.
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Trump: 'We should cancel the election'
Published October 27, 2016 FoxNews.com
Republican candidate Donald Trump joked with supporters in Ohio Thursday that next month's election should be canceled and he should automatically be made president.
"Just thinking to myself right now, we should cancel the election and just give it to Trump," the real estate mogul said in Toledo, where he held one of a series of rallies in the battleground state.
The GOP nominee had been talking about Democrat Hillary Clinton's tax policies, saying that they "are so bad. What a difference."
There was no immediate reaction to Trump's remark from the Clinton campaign, which has accused the GOP nominee of trying to depress voter turnout.
At the Toledo rally, Trump repeated his criticism that Clinton was too tough on Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"No wonder Putin doesn’t like her, the way she talks about him," Trump said. "How can he get along with her?"
Foxnews.com