TRUMP vs IRAN ( Archived) (146)

May 12, 2018 12:23 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
Rachie14: Do tell me first hand what kind of life she lives. Considering I personally don't care. All I know is she doesn't seem very happy when in public with him. But there again I observe couples in my local Weatherspoons who stand there, nursing a drink looking bored to death with nothing to say to each other.

My comments are normally based on the subject. Ironically the assumption is all women are jealous of her. Yet, my comments are about Trumps actions. Not hers. Flawed theory Lee. Do go on..

Do please tell me what I should respect about Trump. Who'd of thought I was a 44 year old adult, who can make her own informed decisions in life.
You are just very jealous of his wife and venting about him, because you wish you had her lifestyle, instead of just getting by...many women want the fairytale dream and have been indoctrinated to seek out the money trail, because they love money more, than they could ever love a man...how do you think weistein - male feminist and democrat voter - got all those beautiful actresses to sleep with him? he wave the cash and offered them fame...so many worked with him more, than once and so many got a lot of fame, but now the money is drying up...they come out of the wood work looking for a big pay day
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May 12, 2018 12:30 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
LeeCharming: You are just very jealous of his wife and venting about him, because you wish you had her lifestyle, instead of just getting by...many women want the fairytale dream and have been indoctrinated to seek out the money trail, because they love money more, than they could ever love a man...how do you think weistein - male feminist and democrat voter - got all those beautiful actresses to sleep with him? he wave the cash and offered them fame...so many worked with him more, than once and so many got a lot of fame, but now the money is drying up...they come out of the wood work looking for a big pay day
Speak for yourself Lee. If you are jealous of his wife. Your problem. Not mine love.

Are you a woman? Are you me? No. I don't even want to date. Let alone anything else. I am happy as I am. Does this offend you? That I don't seek a man or money? What's next? The assumption that I am a lesibian? Go read your metoo# thread for my opinion on Weistien. But you forgot I posted in that eh?

Perhaps you should join MGTOW?
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May 12, 2018 12:36 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
Rachie14: Speak for yourself Lee. If you are jealous of his wife. Your problem. Not mine love.

Are you a woman? Are you me? No. I don't even want to date. Let alone anything else. I am happy as I am. Does this offend you? That I don't seek a man or money? What's next? The assumption that I am a lesibian? Go read your metoo# thread for my opinion on Weistien. But you forgot I posted in that eh?

Perhaps you should join MGTOW?
I'm not the one ranting about trump on all the threads, but you are and it's clear to me whygrin
One word - Jealousy grin
I'm not sure if you like men very much, judging by your postssigh but you would still jump at the chance of meeting a rich guy, why would pamper you and throw the red carpet out for you...most women think the same as you, because most are feminists and only use men
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May 12, 2018 12:48 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
LeeCharming: I'm not the one ranting about trump on all the threads, but you are and it's clear to me why
One word - Jealousy
I'm not sure if you like men very much, judging by your posts but you would still jump at the chance of meeting a rich guy, why would pamper you and throw the red carpet out for you...most women think the same as you, because most are feminists and only use men
I am sorry it offends you when I actually stand up and speak about a situation that is wrong. But I don't have your mentally about Muslims or people from other cultures. So really I am not sorry. I just think you are ignorant in how you label them all the same. Yet, you don't think for a moment it is you with the problem.

For several years Iran was compliant with the agreement in which the UK was involved in. Regarding their ability to produce Nuclear weapons. Then Trump comes along destroys it based on lies.

I don't like rude aggressive men who hold no respect for women and their ability to have an opinion. I do respect men who can express a view where they are not rude or aggressive. I don't like women that do it either. Which you already know by the posts on your threads. So the question should be. Are you a little bipolar in your approach to women in general when they don't return your advances, yet still remain respectful to you regardless of your own behaviour?

See I can call people out as well. So, anyone is welcome to read through my posts. They are available as my profile is not hidden. Perhaps they will scratch their heads too in how you drew the conclusion I don't like men.
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May 12, 2018 12:49 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
LeeCharming: but you would still jump at the chance of meeting a rich guy, why would pamper you and throw the red carpet out for you...
Being a moron is one thing, Lee, but why are you so keen to put it on display?
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May 12, 2018 1:08 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
LeeCharming: Few errors
Hardly surprising considering their source.
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May 12, 2018 1:18 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
Rachie14: Really, so basically you are telling people you like to BS. I said threads. Your racial views were duly noted in private messages when we discussed the current climate in this country. Like Brexit.

Of course I don't have a mind of my own. That's why I am very different than you. Because I cannot be manipulated to doing anything. Which is why I am on count 4 of men who show their true colours. Telling me what I should think, who I should like and what I am about. Like I said to you in message. There are English people who are part of the problem. But you cannot see that. You just see culture as being a problem.

Look in the mirror Lee. There is only hate in your world and anyone who does not fit into your ideals you turn on. I have been waiting for this. You seem to think I am new to being online. I am not, but constantly disappointed in people and their intent.
You showed your true colours in pms...before, that I thought you might be ok, but you proved to be another feminist from the left....with a heart of stone....

I have no hate....The truth is my friend and pointing out the bad in society...I will find no middle ground with people like you, because you only think about you and your ideology....All those messages you ranted about trump to me and you would put immigrants, before people, who were born in the UK...treason for sure...

You are very negative to be honest and your posts show that....your obsessed with trump and all feminists from the left are, because they wanted a woman to run America - killary, so feminism could finally crush western men and take their place under Islams rule
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May 12, 2018 2:15 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Harbal: Being a moron is one thing, Lee, but why are you so keen to put it on display?
wink wink wink you keep crawling Hairball you might get a root yet .
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May 12, 2018 2:24 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Rachie14: You're not much different when you attempt to try and dictate what women want as a generalisation. You have no clue about me as a woman or what I want. What I am about. Here is you on this thread having a problem with different cultures in even this country. How are you any different? Meh you're not. You have asked me if I was born in the UK. I told you that as were my parents, grandparents and great grandparents. That is how much your hatered is imbedded. You don't even respect those of different cultures that even pay their way in this country. But you won't say jack about English people that don't.

You have named tatics, the thing is when you're being your authentic self. You don't need tatics.

You name these claims just about people of different cultures.Yet, there are many cultures including our own that commit such horrible crimes.

You Sir are full of bias. Best get back in your cage
For your information Rachie this thread is not about you and your opinions , no minds you expressing an opinion and when you are a big girl it might be an informed one , tell then all of us will suffer .
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May 12, 2018 2:27 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
epirb: you keep crawling Hairball you might get a root yet .
You've got to be joking. I wouldn't touch you with a barge pole, you slimy little man. barf
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May 12, 2018 2:29 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
epirb: For your information Rachie this thread is not about you and your opinions , no minds you expressing an opinion and when you are a big girl it might be an informed one , tell then all of us will suffer .
For your information I posted facts. But this thread sure does bring out the worst kind of people. People like you.
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May 12, 2018 2:35 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Harbal: You've got to be joking. I wouldn't touch you with a barge pole, you slimy little man.
laugh very quick Hairball .
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May 12, 2018 2:37 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Rachie14: For your information I posted facts. But this thread sure does bring out the worst kind of people. People like you.
you have turned this thread into who Rachie does not like , pages of it . Its not about you .
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May 12, 2018 2:40 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
epirb: you have turned this thread into who Rachie does not like , pages of it . Its not about you .
The problem is she is too much of a snowflake and drama queen...making everything about her and arrogant with her view of herselfthumbs down
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May 12, 2018 2:43 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
epirb: very quick Hairball .
Too quick for you, epirv drinking
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May 12, 2018 2:45 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
epirb: you have turned this thread into who Rachie does not like , pages of it . Its not about you .
No you, Conrad and Lee turned it into bashing people of different cultures. Labelling them all the same. You don't care about right and wrong if they don't meet your standard of being American or English. You still behave badly with slurs and when I stand up. Say it's wrong. You think it's acceptable to patronise me.

That makes you bullies. Not only in how you speak of Muslims, but in how you speak to me.

You look pathetic. You don't care of Trump lies or that Iran have kept to the agreement. You just care about bashing people different to you.

At no point have you rebutted that he lied or the fact when America wants something from another country that they use this tatic. Regardless of the people that die or the fact you want to ensure the dollar does not drop.

Still feel good? If so, you shouldn't.
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May 12, 2018 2:50 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Rachie14: No you, Conrad and Lee turned it into bashing people of different cultures. Labelling them all the same. You don't care about right and wrong if they don't meet your standard of being American or English. You still behave badly with slurs and when I stand up. Say it's wrong. You think it's acceptable to patronise me.

That makes you bullies. Not only in how you speak of Muslims, but in how you speak to me.

You look pathetic. You don't care of Trump lies or that Iran have kept to the agreement. You just care about bashing people different to you.

At no point have you rebutted that he lied or the fact when America wants something from another country that they use this tatic. Regardless of the people that die or the fact you want to ensure the dollar does not drop.

Still feel good? If so, you shouldn't.
what "Agreement?
There wasn't one!
Obama lied,as usual!
And if anyone is bashing,go look in the mirror!
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May 12, 2018 2:57 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
Little did these denizens of Rhodes’ echo chamber know their loyalty would be seen as servility and would become the subject of post-victory gloating. “We had test drives to know who was going to be able to carry our message effectively, and how to use outside groups like Ploughshares, the Iran Project and whomever else,” Rhodes says. “So we knew the tactics that worked.”

The storyline they peddled was that the Iran deal had been negotiated in a furious round of back-and-forthing in 2014 and 2015, with the United States getting far better terms out of Iran than it expected due to the flexibility of a newly moderate government in Tehran.

It was, Samuels says, a deliberately misleading narrative. The general terms were actually hammered out in 2012 by State Department officials Jake Sullivan and William Burns, rooted in Obama’s deep desire from the beginning of the administration to strike a grand deal with the mullahs.

Why on Earth was such conduct remotely acceptable? Because, Samuels makes clear, Rhodes and Obama believe they’re the only sensible thinkers in America and that there’s no way to get the right things done other than to spin them. “I mean, I’d prefer a sober, reasoned public debate, after which members of Congress reflect and take a vote,” he tells Samuels. “But that’s impossible.”

Impossible? There was a sober, reasoned public debate over the Iran deal. Its opponents were deadly serious. In the end, 58 senators voted against it on sober, reasoned grounds.

What the Samuels piece shows is that the Obama administration chose to attempt to get its way not by winning an argument but by bringing an almost fathomless cynicism to bear in manipulating its own clueless liberal fan club.



well,Hoodahthunkit?rolling on the floor laughing
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May 12, 2018 2:57 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Rachie14: No you, Conrad and Lee turned it into bashing people of different cultures. Labelling them all the same. You don't care about right and wrong if they don't meet your standard of being American or English. You still behave badly with slurs and when I stand up. Say it's wrong. You think it's acceptable to patronise me.

That makes you bullies. Not only in how you speak of Muslims, but in how you speak to me.

You look pathetic. You don't care of Trump lies or that Iran have kept to the agreement. You just care about bashing people different to you.

At no point have you rebutted that he lied or the fact when America wants something from another country that they use this tatic. Regardless of the people that die or the fact you want to ensure the dollar does not drop.

Still feel good? If so, you shouldn't.
you are disruptive
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May 12, 2018 3:13 PM CST TRUMP vs IRAN
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Conrad73: Little did these denizens of Rhodes’ echo chamber know their loyalty would be seen as servility and would become the subject of post-victory gloating. “We had test drives to know who was going to be able to carry our message effectively, and how to use outside groups like Ploughshares, the Iran Project and whomever else,” Rhodes says. “So we knew the tactics that worked.”

The storyline they peddled was that the Iran deal had been negotiated in a furious round of back-and-forthing in 2014 and 2015, with the United States getting far better terms out of Iran than it expected due to the flexibility of a newly moderate government in Tehran.

It was, Samuels says, a deliberately misleading narrative. The general terms were actually hammered out in 2012 by State Department officials Jake Sullivan and William Burns, rooted in Obama’s deep desire from the beginning of the administration to strike a grand deal with the mullahs.

Why on Earth was such conduct remotely acceptable? Because, Samuels makes clear, Rhodes and Obama believe they’re the only sensible thinkers in America and that there’s no way to get the right things done other than to spin them. “I mean, I’d prefer a sober, reasoned public debate, after which members of Congress reflect and take a vote,” he tells Samuels. “But that’s impossible.”

Impossible? There was a sober, reasoned public debate over the Iran deal. Its opponents were deadly serious. In the end, 58 senators voted against it on sober, reasoned grounds.

What the Samuels piece shows is that the Obama administration chose to attempt to get its way not by winning an argument but by bringing an almost fathomless cynicism to bear in manipulating its own clueless liberal fan club.



well,Hoodahthunkit?
By the time they stopped talking the pressure was on , OB needed something ,anything while the Iranians wanted it out of the road so they could go into Syria without sanctions . Group hug all round and homewood bound . We have peace in our time .
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