Is There Really A God? ( Archived) (212)

You posted to the "Welcome to Hell" thread 5.5 hrs ago mentioning vienna sausage.

I don't think you need a book or church to tell you what is wrong or right either. Then again...maybe some do?

I do believe in God but am not a church goer. I would rather have it between me and the big guy without the biased views of an organized church.

I'm not sure how to answer this. For the longest time I did not believe in God or that there even was a God, nor did I care much either way. However a few years ago, at one of my lowest points, a friend of mine gave me a book called "12 Great Confessions To Live By" - by Tommy Burchfield. Now I believe. No mater what happens in my life now, nobody and nothing can take away my faith.

If you would like to know more joyce - feel free to check out my website at It has helped many people - perhaps it will help you too.

Hugs,
Bob

Joyce....
If you need one he'll be there.... If you don't then there won't be.... I believe it truly depends on your needs.... it sounds like you need one to make sense of your tragedy and that's ok.....

Try not to confuse your pain with your beliefs... they are separate....

I am deeply sorry for your loss.

I agree with what was said below.

Just bringing this thread up to add to the >> Jesus jihad << thread. There are alot of points of view in this thread...

and most of them misunderstood

2 words for you all



Great Spirit




Mech

Joyce, first of all, my condolences for your loss. It is a hard teaching, acceptance of any tragic event is the only way I know of to get beyond the pain and to start healing.

Your question of why "good" God "allows" us to experience tragic events is well taken. If everything were "perfect," we'd probably be so bored that we'd all committ suicide. But this is the price we pay to have Free Will. This is going to be very hard to grasp as you are just beginning to start your spiritual journey, and what I espouse is certainly "spiritually incorrect."

I do not resonate with the major world religions because I see them nothing more than power structures and controlling agents. You can see how well civilization has progressed with these religions. They are exclusive, static, intolerant, and unable to generate new ideas. Religions exist because there IS another unseen dimension that certain people have peeked into. A "spititual" realm and experience that has been accessed over the centuries. This "experience," when codified and written in stone becomes "religion." That genuine metaphyisical experience becomes a counterfeit one, and is filled with "faith" and dogma. A dry, waterlesss canal.

The failure of Organizied Religion can be traced to its exclusiveness and and belief that we are all separate beings awaiting "judgment" and cursed with "Original Sin" by a "Loving God." As if God were a person that "needs" something from us. As if He has nothing better to do than sit in Heaven and take notes on everything you do, gleefully casting you in a lake of fire for eternity just for using the Free Will He gave you, or for using His Name in vain.

My thought is this. God doesn't exist in the clouds surrounded by angels that worship Him forever. But there IS a Creation. All That Is. ISNESS. Me. You. Everything else. All Connected by Love. Nothing else exists. Separation is Illusion. Evil is Illusion. "Bad things" happen because we're in physical bodies that age and die. But our bodies are only a tiny fraction of what we REALLY ARE. We are Spirit having an Earthly experience. Grieve no more for your grandson, for only his body has "died." His Spirit, his TRUE SELF, still lives, feels your grief, and watches over you with love.

So be at Peace, Dear One. And know that your Lord will always be with you, "Even to the end of time."

Peace

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