a new language (66)

Jan 22, 2024 4:58 PM CST a new language
Coldheaven
ColdheavenColdheavenNorthern Ireland Belfast, Antrim Ireland13 Threads 1 Polls 3,147 Posts
salamuna: Sorry disagree. I may not use a language for a long time, but as soon as I find myself in a language environment, my brain instantly switches on to a " forgotten "language
Maybe it works for you but not for me. We can agree to disagree.wine
Jan 22, 2024 5:01 PM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Coldheaven: Maybe it works for you but not for me. We can agree to disagree.
Of course, we are all built differently. Kind of mind games
Jan 22, 2024 5:06 PM CST a new language
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
germanspitz: Its actually has English/Irish connections but could be connected to Scotland also as it sometimes refers to bagpipe playing.
The British isles has a vast array of dialects & saying for such a small group of lands .
Jan 22, 2024 5:07 PM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Youcannow: If you’re implying what I think you are , then that language is universal
What do you mean? I dont think.you are thinking about who i am at all))confused
Jan 22, 2024 5:11 PM CST a new language
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
salamuna: What do you mean? I dont think.you are thinking about who i am at all))
That doesn’t make sense confused
Jan 22, 2024 5:18 PM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Youcannow: That doesn’t make sense
All life doesnt make sense.
Jan 22, 2024 5:23 PM CST a new language
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
salamuna: All life doesnt make sense.
It’s not supposed to . That’s what makes it intriguing.
The more you think about it , the less sense it makes
Jan 22, 2024 5:24 PM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
I should better leave now.. thanks guys for your advises . I will keep all of them in mine mind
Jan 22, 2024 5:26 PM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Youcannow: It’s not supposed to . That’s what makes it intriguing.
The more you think about it , the less sense it makes
Maybe you are right, but this already another story
Jan 22, 2024 7:35 PM CST a new language
Friendship4ever
Friendship4everFriendship4everSan Bernardino, California USA2 Threads 1,466 Posts
I'm trying to learn the German language, but talk about impossible?? dunno
Jan 23, 2024 4:29 AM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Friendship4ever: I'm trying to learn the German language, but talk about impossible??
German is a very logical language. very similar to Dutch. I can understand 90 percent of the talks of Germans. I can advise teaching it through songs. Kind of easy going songs like for example
Du bist alles, was ich wil

Btw i ve started to do it this morning with some french song. we'll see how far this will take me wave
Jan 23, 2024 5:33 AM CST a new language
Mesange1
Mesange1Mesange1Ici, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France1 Threads 449 Posts
Bonjour Salamuna ! rose

To answer your interrogations about how to learn the french language, i'd think of a total immersion in an agreable context, not a big metropole for a start but a nice middle town (especially those on the atlantic coast, like in the Morbihan, Vendée, Charente, Gironde) rent a room or an appart for a couple of months for example, and practice every day, go to the markets, to the cafés, cinéma, restaurants etc .. Nothing like the direct contacts in the country. The people will welcome you nicely and you'll make good friends there.

I'd avise you to watch french tv series to get more familiar with the prononciation ... i've just found two sites on line to test your acknowledge having fun, hope that will help you.
Jan 23, 2024 5:44 AM CST a new language
Mesange1
Mesange1Mesange1Ici, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France1 Threads 449 Posts





................... for a start, then good luck ! cool
Jan 23, 2024 6:55 AM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Mesange1: https://apprendre.tv5monde.com/fr




................... for a start, then good luck !
thank you so much. i will try this sites. about staying in some small town for a couple of months could be a problem..as soon as i still have to work here in Netherlands.. but i will consider this option for the future..wave
Jan 23, 2024 7:14 AM CST a new language
Mesange1
Mesange1Mesange1Ici, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France1 Threads 449 Posts
You are most welcome, the pleasure is all mine. I understand very well your work priorities, but you might like to spend a few weeks during holidays in those places i evoked .... You'd rather not go to the international campings on the coast because they are full of Dutch, German, English people in summer grin
Jan 23, 2024 7:41 AM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Mesange1: Bonjour Salamuna !

To answer your interrogations about how to learn the french language, i'd think of a total immersion in an agreable context, not a big metropole for a start but a nice middle town (especially those on the atlantic coast, like in the Morbihan, Vendée, Charente, Gironde) rent a room or an appart for a couple of months for example, and practice every day, go to the markets, to the cafés, cinéma, restaurants etc .. Nothing like the direct contacts in the country. The people will welcome you nicely and you'll make good friends there.

I'd avise you to watch french tv series to get more familiar with the prononciation ... i've just found two sites on line to test your acknowledge having fun, hope that will help you.
yes, I will keep the names in my mind. Last time i was in France like 4 years ago i ve stayed 2 weeks in Cancale. loved it. did eat oysters from the market few times , loved going to sen malo en mont saint michel. but yes, a lot of tourists there. merci beaucoup pour vos conseilswave
Jan 23, 2024 8:47 AM CST a new language
salamuna: How and where is the best way to study a new language at a tender age? Especially when the language is very difficult
In highschool I studied French and German to a competent level, but in French in particular the aural skill was always lacking, yet the reading ability has never disappeared. In later life I took up Chinese, almost 30 years ago, aged tender??? well, 48 if that counts as tender (I'd be more inclined to say tough as nails or old boots). Not a difficult language for grammar or vocabulary, but the absence of an alphabet makes the reading in particular difficult, and the tonality makes for difficulty in verbal communication. The study has been desultory and I still cannot read better than high school literature in simplified hanzi, and very slowly at that.
The advent of the MOOCs provided wonderful teaching and learning facilities of the highest quality for most of the major languages. I have studied mostly conversational Chinese online via the various apps: MSN Yahoo QQ Wechat Skype usw. The formal exams like HSK are excellently supported at Coursera or EDX (for example). Later this year I'll travel to France for my daughter's wedding in Nice and to some degree surreptitiously resurrect the French of my teenage years.

The best way? Hard and consistent slog and usage, unendingly continued. I laugh (inwardly) whenever a new student tells me they will do IELTS next month, however teaching English online to Chinese ESL students has sharpened my ears/listening skills in all languages, so that is another arrow I'd add to the learning quiver. Marriage to a Chinese speaker did nothing at all to improve it however.
Jan 23, 2024 8:58 AM CST a new language
salamuna: German is a very logical language. very similar to Dutch. I can understand 90 percent of the talks of Germans. I can advise teaching it through songs. Kind of easy going songs like for example
Du bist alles, was ich wil

Btw i ve started to do it this morning with some french song. we'll see how far this will take me
how about trying Allemannisch?

laugh
Jan 23, 2024 10:40 AM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
FargoFan: In highschool I studied French and German to a competent level, but in French in particular the aural skill was always lacking, yet the reading ability has never disappeared. In later life I took up Chinese, almost 30 years ago, aged tender??? well, 48 if that counts as tender (I'd be more inclined to say tough as nails or old boots). Not a difficult language for grammar or vocabulary, but the absence of an alphabet makes the reading in particular difficult, and the tonality makes for difficulty in verbal communication. The study has been desultory and I still cannot read better than high school literature in simplified hanzi, and very slowly at that.
The advent of the MOOCs provided wonderful teaching and learning facilities of the highest quality for most of the major languages. I have studied mostly conversational Chinese online via the various apps: MSN Yahoo QQ Wechat Skype usw. The formal exams like HSK are excellently supported at Coursera or EDX (for example). Later this year I'll travel to France for my daughter's wedding in Nice and to some degree surreptitiously resurrect the French of my teenage years.

The best way? Hard and consistent slog and usage, unendingly continued. I laugh (inwardly) whenever a new student tells me they will do IELTS next month, however teaching English online to Chinese ESL students has sharpened my ears/listening skills in all languages, so that is another arrow I'd add to the learning quiver. Marriage to a Chinese speaker did nothing at all to improve it however.
tender age.. this is my invention. I ve started calling my age that way after 50. so 48 is a little younger than tender age. interesting experience, but I never planned to learn Chinese, although apparently in the nearest future it will become an international language and perhaps replace Englishwave
Jan 23, 2024 10:48 AM CST a new language
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Conrad73: how about trying Allemannisch?
No, Conrad. Thanks for your reaction but i d like to learn a dream language. My brain is already full with 6 languages , so one more dialect of German will be too much.Although it could an interesting experience and also be easy to learn i guess..wave
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