Prolonging the Agony? ( Archived) (24)

Mar 9, 2007 10:35 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
I read something today and thought it interesting.

If someone has been dumped, chances are, they want them back as a lover and attempting to convert to simply friends will only prolong the agony of coming to terms with the split. They say that until you accept the relationship is over, you'll probably keep reading "secret" messages into everything connected to your ex. The best way to get over an ex is to keep your distance, sever all connection, even if for a few months, then take the time to decide whether or not a friendship is possible, or even desirable.

Do you agree?
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Mar 9, 2007 10:37 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
My ex was easy to get over...

Everytime I see her I am reminded of how stupidly blind I was.

AB
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Mar 9, 2007 10:38 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
Yes I agree...For the one still hanging on...There will always be hope so time and distance is the only cure!!!!!!!


conversing conversing
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Mar 9, 2007 10:38 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
bobby7
bobby7bobby7Mission, Canada16 Threads 2,351 Posts
Yes, Ma'am..I agree with that..cheers
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Mar 9, 2007 10:43 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
TheLonelyWalker
TheLonelyWalkerTheLonelyWalkerDebary, USA42 Threads 565 Posts
I totally agree with u dear
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Mar 9, 2007 10:54 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
funnyone
funnyonefunnyoneEmporia, Kansas USA13 Threads 208 Posts
Total agreement with this thread, if I could afford it I would either move or have her moved to another state that I never intend to visit. Nothing against that unidentified state. roll eyes
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Mar 9, 2007 11:01 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
photofreek
photofreekphotofreeksoda springs, USA23 Threads 2,495 Posts
got to agree with what you read. I have tried to be just friends right off the bat and it seems like it causes problems and that we each would read between the lines. A nice clean break is probably hardest at first but after the smoke has cleared and life is rebuilding without that other individual. Then friendship can be rehashed. I have always remained friends with my exs but sometimes it just takes longer to get through the break-up.
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Mar 9, 2007 11:02 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
Lightening
LighteningLighteningHuntsville, Alabama USA2,122 Posts
Well, the few ex's that I have had there was no way we could remain friends so I don't think they were very hard to get over at all. Except the "how could I have been so blind" part... doh
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Mar 9, 2007 11:03 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
Jess642
Jess642Jess642Agnes Water, Australia25 Threads 4,545 Posts
Sometimes we need to look at what the relationship was for us.

Was it balanced and healthy?

Or was it addictive and selfish?

What I mean by that, was... what was it that you got from the relationship, what obligations did you place on the other person?

What needs did you expect them to fulfill in you?

Relationships that are healthy for me, both romantically, and also the day to day relating, with my children, friends, people on the street, must not be needy for me, or for the other.

It is a struggle at times, and I have to be vigilant to not collapse into neediness.

I have been fortunate to have remained friends with ex partners, and neither of us practised ownership or possessiveness.

So no, for me, when the relationship changed into something different, we accepted that was what it was, and allowed us to continue being the individuals we were.

Unhealthy relationships, I feel need to be treated the same as any unhealthy habit or addictions,

Acceptance that there is an addiction, and then an abstinance from the addiction, and support and healing, for the parts of the psyche that are damaged and attracted to the unhealthy behaviours.

Understanding myself, and my behaviours helps me understand what a good and healthy relationship looks like, whether it be with friends, familly or lovers.
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Mar 9, 2007 11:10 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
Yes Jess I have to agree...Healthiness is the key and I can honestly say I have had very few healthy relationships...BUT these days....I won't settle for anything less!!!!!!!


conversing conversing
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Mar 9, 2007 11:18 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
Jess642
Jess642Jess642Agnes Water, Australia25 Threads 4,545 Posts
Yay!!!! Good for you!!!!applause applause hug
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Mar 10, 2007 12:06 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Yes, I agree completely with this. Distance is a good start, but has to be enforced or there's going to be chaos on many different levels. Months could be an understatement, and I also agree that much thinking has to be done as to whether or not a friendship is possible due to circumstances.

Secret messages are just that, and completely interpretative. If you know them as well as you thought you did, and you see something completely different... more red flags go off like a 4th of july fireworks display. (for lack of a better analogy) Change isn't 'bad'.. but rapid change without any logical reasoning is.

My .02,

Rich
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Mar 10, 2007 10:27 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
For sure. Going from lovers sharing a life, to simple friends can be very difficult. Especially if one of the two cannot let go and misconstrues plain friendship as something more or other than. A clean break can be painful but could allow you to step back and really remember why you broke up in the first place. When both have moved on with their lives, I would think that the emotional bonds will hopefully have been put to rest. Then you could know for sure, if you really do need a former lover as a friend, especially when the realationship went sour, no? I know lot's of people that remain civil and friends with former lover's but both parties know where the stupid line is and don't pry into the other's life nor expect any right to do so.
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Mar 10, 2007 10:46 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
I wanted so much to stay freinds with my ex...

we spent 24-25 years together... had kids... shared life good and bad...

My goal was to show the kids it's ok... even when he had cheated, and was planning a wedding before I got the divorce through...

It did not work, lol. I was to be his counsilor in his new marraige, and the punching bag so he could keep up his shiny new fake image...

I kept the option opne... he closed that door...
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Mar 10, 2007 10:53 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
if you cannot stay friends ... then, yes, I agree it would work

I think I'm fortunate ... a friend with all my ex's grin
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Mar 10, 2007 10:56 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
ariesgirl003
ariesgirl003ariesgirl003Bangin, New Jersey USA32 Threads 3,038 Posts
I think the reason for the brake up plays a big part in the continued relationship after.conversing
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Mar 10, 2007 10:59 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
Well girl, you put a different spin on it, when there are kids involved. So much more to it when that happens. Friends that are parents, have told me they want to be an example to their kids, to teach them how to care for, love, and respect others. Being single, and not having kids, I couldn't imagine how difficult it would be, to remain civil and respectful to an ex if the split was nasty, in order to ensure the kids are not seeing their parent's hating eachother, or trying to poison the kids against the other parent. You were so much bigger than him, to have made the attempt to be civil, it's his loss.
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Mar 10, 2007 11:37 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
Wildness
WildnessWildnessMesa, USA92 Threads 1,549 Posts
I think that even after a compelete distance ie... no talking or seeing one another in its self is not the answer to getting over it

I did just that for months on end with my recent ex husband and he would like to be friends but i at this point really just dont want anything to do with him period, strangely enough though my 1st Husband and i are good friends confused

So that tells me that it really depends on what kind of relationship you had and why you split .
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Mar 10, 2007 11:39 AM CST Prolonging the Agony?
fun11
fun11fun11dublin, Dublin Ireland24 Threads 805 Posts
yep i agreebanana banana banana
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Mar 10, 2007 12:20 PM CST Prolonging the Agony?
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
If you were that good of friends to start with, you would have been able to work things out.
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