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Dec 6, 2007 10:38 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
After dating the same person for 4 months, I find out he suffers from depression. I have watched him slowly change from the most fun, outgoing individual to moody, quiet and untrusting. I really care about him but I'm not sure what to do.

Since he has stopped all communications with me, I am at a loss how to proceed. Do I leave him alone? Do I continue to try to talk to him or do I give up?






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Dec 6, 2007 10:46 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
I'd go visit him; he may be on medication for depression and hasn't taken it or perhaps he should be on some, Whatever may be bothering him, leaving him isolated will not help him. Try and get him to open up with you or someone...not knowing his circumstances of whether he lives or not. I don't agree with those that say leave them alone.
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Dec 6, 2007 10:48 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
whether he lives with others or not is what I meant to write...
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Dec 6, 2007 10:52 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Major Depression is very common.He probably is too depressed to talk to anyone or do anything.Don't take it personal.If it is an illness in the brain,he needs to see Pychiatists for evaluation and get on the right anti-depressant for him,then usually some counseling helps.If he in't seeing a proffesional now,do all you can to hlp him get help.It could become tragic if not treated and it has becomesevere.Some have milder forms of depression known as enviromental,lie death of loved 1,bankrupty,divorce etc.That type of depression is usually gone in mon th or so.
Remember Major or Clinical depression is not the patiants fault,they have no control ov it and willpower doesn't take it away.Try to be kind to him and get his family in volved if this is serious and he's withdrawn and been this way for 1 month or so.You are welcome to message me,I ca give you more info and 800 no.s etc.
Take care of you too.Prayers for both of you.hug comfort
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Dec 6, 2007 10:58 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
LostInDaJungle
LostInDaJungleLostInDaJungleRichmond, Virginia USA9 Posts
My Marriage dissolved due to my wife's depression. She refused to admit it was happening, and hence refused to seek treatment. (Or, alternately blamed me for the reason she was depressed.) SHe would only admit she was depressed when she was using it as an excuse for her behaviour.

I would go and talk to him.... The last thing he needs is to be left alone. Depression, especially the Manic kind can be very addicting. They have incredible highs as well as incredible lows. Once they get help or medication, the lows go away, but so do the highs. My wife would stop taking her meds to get the "high" back, and then would go so low she didn't feel like taking the meds.

Take the rest of this with a grain of salt but... Once he gets help, he still might not be the same person you once knew. And dealing with someone who suffers from depression can be just as bad as dealing with an Alcoholic in as much as they often refuse to acknowledge they have a problem... Or only acknowledge they do so that they can say... "Well, I suffer from Deprssion, so you just have to deal with that."
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Dec 6, 2007 10:58 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
He is going through a nasty divorce. And he is on medication for it. He was seeking professional help but stopped due to the expense.

He is not living alone but likely his son is not much help.

At this point the only way to talk to him is to try and catch him at home or leave a voicemail since he is avoiding my calls.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:00 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
I agree with Solitare.

One in four will suffer depression to various degrees in their lifetime. Not someone down in the dumps, but clinical.

There's help, of course. The obvious is he may need it. So much more is known now. He may have been taking something - many stop when they feel better, but can relapse, and it can worse. Solitude, isolation, will be sought.

Naturally, it's a delicate matter. Our gender has problems with pride, and although the stigma has been lessened a bit these days, it's still there. No one wants to admit a weakness.

Best of luck, keep us posted.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:01 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
Oh he knows and admits he suffers from depression. At one time he was open about it.



If he could possibly be a threat to himself, does that mean he could be a threat to me?
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Dec 6, 2007 11:03 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
LostInDaJungle
LostInDaJungleLostInDaJungleRichmond, Virginia USA9 Posts
"He is going through a nasty divorce."

Ahhh... Now that I know all about. mumbling

I would definitely try to talk to him... But if he's clinicially depressed... He needs his meds.... If he had an infection would he stop getting antibiotics?

He probably needs a friend more than anything right now. When you're going through the nastiness, you have a tendency to really shut yourself off. I know with mine, I really needed a hug some days and just didn't know how to ask.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:07 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
LostInDaJungle
LostInDaJungleLostInDaJungleRichmond, Virginia USA9 Posts
"If he could possibly be a threat to himself, does that mean he could be a threat to me?"

Not generally. But I don't know what he's going through/what his particular brand of depression is.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:13 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
Many (I did not say ALL) have depression because of lack of direction and goals in life. Without a direction or goals there is a lack of esteem and hope. In such cases, only they can make changes,......most will not.
Then our loved ones tell us to snap out of it and quit being a worthless piece of crap. Of course this helps.....right!(stupid!)

People do not know how to correct this in themselves and truly believe it is not going to work. Only if they work for something better long enough to have an improvement will they have a hope of success in beating it.

The mind is like a tape. If we do not watch, people and life will record a lot of bad stuff to the tape deep in our subconsious. A person has to learn to stop the bad and record good things enough times to fade out the old recordings. These recordings make us see good or bad. Good recordings....then a good outlook.

The book Psycho-Cybernetics By Maxwell Maltz is the best book on self improvement in the subject.

If it is not this type.....doctors will help.

But if it is the type I am talking about. Doctors will make it worse with meds.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:17 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Rickster
RicksterRicksterNew York, USA24 Threads 3,362 Posts
That is a very delicate question to answer. In some cases it can. That is, if the person is not doing anything to take care of it. Yet, this is not always the case.

I do hope that things will work out for the both of you.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:19 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
LostInDaJungle
LostInDaJungleLostInDaJungleRichmond, Virginia USA9 Posts
Periods of high stress can also deplete the bodies stores of Seratonin, GABA, and other chemicals that lead to what we folks take for granted as normal. True clinical depression IS a chemical imbalance in the brain... Depression has been oversold as "Just being down in the dumps", but many folks find that during periods of high stress, their actual brain chemistry alters.

I found that getting in a good workout every day after my Divorce made me feel a whole lot better. You get the endorphines flowing... Yoga in particular was of great help.

Many people whom are very goal oriented find themselves depressed. They know where they want to go, their "car" just has no gas.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:20 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
gasunshinegirl
gasunshinegirlgasunshinegirlARNOLDSVILLE, Georgia USA7 Threads 265 Posts
Yes it does/could mean he could harm you as well as others. When a person suffers from any form of Mental Illness, there is always a posibility that he/she will commit a crime, murder and or suicide. They are not mentally capable of making the right decisions and choices at times..So be careful please.


You stated, he was in good spirits at one time, then began to go down into a state of depression, this could be a BiPolar disorder which causes one to be euphoric at times then so far down in the dumps until they want to shut everyone out..He definitnitly needs his meds and should be under a Doctors care. There are free Counceling Services offered at different Churches in some Cities.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:21 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
I really don't know that much about what kind he has.

All I do know is he has only been having problems with it since his wife cheated on him and left. (1 year ago) He said without the medication, he couldn't get through a work day without crying uncontrollably. He admitted the therapy was helping but stopped because it was too expensive.

Now he throws himself into his work (self employed Mason) so he doesn't have time to think about the divorce. He works until late at night until he is exhausted and then goes home to eat and sleep.

God I wish I could help him.
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Dec 6, 2007 11:34 PM CST Please talk to me about Depression
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
There are many self help books at the libaries. If he will fill his mind with positive books and tapes....it will make a difference. The first book and the best is the one suggested before. Other books are listed in the back of the book. Magic of Believing, Goal Setting., tapes by Tony Robins, Zig Ziglar's "Born to win."........etc.

Look up Melvin Powers at Whileshire book co. for The first book.

Google it.

Buy books used on the internet.


These will help if he will do it. It takes about three weeks to notice improvement.

Good stuff!
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Dec 7, 2007 12:00 AM CST Please talk to me about Depression
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
I don't want to sound like a know it all. But I have hundreds of tapes, books and videos on many many subjects. I tend to soak it up and retain it well. I also have much practical knowledge.

My father use to say about me. "Difficult things he does right away, impossible things take him ten minutes longer."


I am not a know it all. I do like knowing anything new.



Would you like to talk about dye migration in dead facial tissue or derma wax repairs of tissues from damage. I learned a great deal talking to a mortician at the doctors office. Made folks around us feel a little funny though.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 7, 2007 4:19 AM CST Please talk to me about Depression
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
If were in your shoes, I would be thankful that he's stopped communicating and run like the clappers as far away as you possibly can from him.

More trouble than they are worth people like that, and if you're not careful they drag you down to their miserable, gloomy outlook on life. Misery loves company and all the rest of it.

Also, if they get into a dangerous unstable mind they can endanger you by twisting things in their mind and turning on you.

JMO.
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Dec 7, 2007 4:52 AM CST Please talk to me about Depression
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
I thought i better post this, as there probably a few people with depression on the website.

I read your post on depression and i thought i would offer some professional advice.

Your friend, isolation is the worst thing for someone with depression.Diet can help and the largest factor in helping get over depression is exercise.

Potatoes have the same natural ingredient as prozac, so make sure he eats them.

Take him for a walk, a bike ride and just talk with him.After that, get him to the doctor and see if he's on anti-depressants.

He might be clinically depressed, or maybe even bi-polar or just be affected by his circumstances.

If you need further advice, please feel free to get in touch and i would will suggest a website to look for help on diet.

You might like to do a search for "Rose and Thorns" a support group who deal with depression!

If he is on medication, or is isn't agreeing with him get him to the doctor.The best thing you can do is talk to him, and then coax him out the house and see he eats and has a walk.

That will massively improve his condition.

Best of luck

Rob

Privately, if anyone wants advice of this nature they can ask me in total confidence and i will pass the relevant information to anyone who needs it.
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