Intellectualism, and compassion/love. ( Archived) (63)

Dec 21, 2007 12:45 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
You know what ... debate ...

here's something that will smack you right upside the head, its just facts, not me doing it ok uh oh

hehe
I know you wouldn't get angry .. anyway .. the part of our humane human brain that controls the love response also controls hate response. I dont know the name of this cerebelum masterpiece but sciantifically I've been told its true so .. who am I to argue.

The compassion/love you seek in tandem with learning, cannot therefore exist without accepting the possibility of its counterpart 'hate'.
I know people 'want' for the most part to learn through compassion and indeed it seems far more acceptable to some hopefully most or we're doomed, but even doom has its own pheonix.

To others though, being drawn to debate through hate also tandems to create a learning.

it must be noted imperically; the object or the person expected to learn is not always the one with compassion nor the one with hate, but indeed learning does happen through both emotions.

cheers
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Dec 21, 2007 12:49 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
The very reason i seemed to agree with Ray's methodology. To provoke to incite a detestful emotion .. so as to draw attention and nurture curiosity for the desired effect.

But, personally , i find it more acceptable to approach in a level headed manner with compassion ( subtle remarks or jeers are acceptable to a limit ) as it reaches out and is acceptable to more people.
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Dec 21, 2007 12:51 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
I agree...which is why I took part!

cheers
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Dec 21, 2007 12:58 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
where did u take it? where are u hiding it?


It has been great though, finding out that the playground has another swing to play on and people that also like to play with it too.

dancing yay
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Dec 21, 2007 12:59 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
confused I dont understand
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Dec 21, 2007 1:02 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Scottishlass
ScottishlassScottishlassKnoxville, Tennessee USA491 Threads 23 Polls 3,324 Posts
very well said!!!!thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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Dec 21, 2007 1:02 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
It can get a bit...uhhh...'wet' around here.laugh

I don't do luv in's.barf

laugh

But of course, I stand by the right of any and all to enjoy them to their hearts content.roll eyes

grin
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Dec 21, 2007 1:10 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
As for the fragrant Riya, alas, India is but a dream.


frog


It's better to shoot for the stars and hit a streetlamp than it is to die with your guns blazing into the ground.


bowing
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Dec 21, 2007 1:12 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Rickster
RicksterRicksterNew York, USA24 Threads 3,362 Posts
For example, some decided to be a doctors because they have a passion for making people feel better. So, it’s possible that, the desire to feel that passion is the cause of why they decided to seek that knowledge in the first place.

If someone doesn’t know the difference? Well, you do have those that decide to be doctors simply for the paycheck or status quo?

wine
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Dec 21, 2007 1:15 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Thankyou for the compliment .. blushing
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Dec 21, 2007 1:16 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Thankyou .. I understand now and i totally agree. wine
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Dec 21, 2007 1:20 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
LiberatorUSA
LiberatorUSALiberatorUSAFoster City, California USA1 Threads 38 Posts
With learning comes knowledge, with knowledge comes understanding, with understanding comes tolerance, with tolerance and time comes a healthy appreciation for our fellow man. Learning new things broadens your horizons which is never a bad thing imho.
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Dec 21, 2007 1:21 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Eupho
EuphoEuphoWild Wild South West, England UK49 Threads 12 Polls 6,581 Posts
Absolutely.. I agree thumbs up
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Dec 21, 2007 1:27 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
Learning for LEARNINGS SAKE.

Also, understanding does not necessarily follow when knowledge is gained. The link between the two is often fractured.

Hence the world as we know have it.

But in ideal settings, you would have a point.wine
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Dec 21, 2007 1:29 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Couldnt agree more after a few things that i read in the last 2 days ..
blues

If only we were to apply what we learn .
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Dec 21, 2007 1:46 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Good thread detente.

I agree intellectualism is important, much better to train our children to rationalise and think critically than some of the practical skills they are taught today which become outdated very quickly.

Anti-intellectualism is a dangerous thing, look back through history and you will see just how much persecution has been suffered under the various regimes who feared these people. Governments don't really want us to think, it can be subversive!

I don't believe intellectuals are necessarily cold people either, great poets for example must have a lot of passion and emotion to write the way do, but there is a skill, I believe, in putting across intellectual views which do not turn off the reader or listener.

Intellectuals are not an elite group of people, yet many fear them because they believe they are.

Sadly it's preferable to worship dopey 'celebrities' these days.

wine
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Dec 21, 2007 1:51 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Great post Jan !!

Intellectuality neednt relate to education. The ability to reason , think and express without blindly following a bandwagon is sure the beginning but as you tread along the road a higher and broader understanding of the schema of things is " Intellectual " IMO.
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Dec 21, 2007 1:59 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
Detente
DetenteDetenteNorth West, England UK48 Threads 1 Polls 2,742 Posts
Absolutely!

Many of the cleverest, wisest people i've ever met have been un-educated/self educated and without any formal educational qualifications, like myself.

They simply knew how to think clearly - without fuss and with very great clarity of insight and judgement.

This business of deifying the supposed 'intellectual elte' is fruitless and damaging. wine
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Dec 21, 2007 2:04 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Many people I have met on the site , some whom i am still getting to know have a clarity of thought which i havent seen many a supposed
" Elite "

For that matter , the sensitivity and understanding that i seek to see in people around me, as i wouldnt stand someone who is otherwise, i have more often found in ones without an "impressive" formal qualification.
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Dec 21, 2007 2:21 PM CST Intellectualism, and compassion/love.
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
sometimes I do things without thinking and others times, think things without doing.


doh
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