SHOULD WE ALLOW ALCOHOL DRINKING ON PUBLIC BEACHES? (41)
the key here Mark, is respnsible drinking. We are talking drinking as opposed to getting drunk. When people become intoxicated they should be made to leave like in any other public place. But enjoying a cold beer on the beach, moderately, is no different that these same kids seeing mom and dad drink at home. Do you hide yor drinking at home? Then hide it in public, too. If you get drunk at the beach...you probably do it at home. Your children are watching you drink. What we need to teach our children is not to drink at all,(it does have some health benefits) but to drink moderately and sensibly. And that is not the governments job...it's the parents!
<=========is ready for bashing!!
GW Bush..."...bring it on"
<=========is ready for bashing!!
GW Bush..."...bring it on"
------ This thread is Archived ------
Kev I am sorry for responding in a harsh manner, but to callously dismiss the rights of children cuts to my heart. I have three children and would stop them from harassing anyone in public or private. I understand your concerns for freedoms and their ability to be policed. But a public beach is public... as in for everyone. You might be a responsible person there but having been to any drinking establishment you will know of a certainty that idiots abound. I refuse to go to bars because of the losers who cannot handle their alcohol and decide that a few drinks too many will help them in their quest for testosterone. The last thing I need is to have to deal with their inanity on a public beach. I am not against people being free (I am Canadian) but to want such freedom for oneself at the cost of anothers is too much for me. Your words offended me but your belief does not. There has to be a healthy respect both ways. If we justify our freedoms at the cost of others what is going to stop them from reacting exactly the same towards us. We teach by example and if having a few drinks with friends can be done socially then we succeed. But the masses are known for their antics... check out youtube, myspace, the news, etc...
Mark
Mark
------ This thread is Archived ------
Ship I agree but responsibility is in the eye of the beholder. I do not drink though so this is not an issue here.
Mark 
Mark
------ This thread is Archived ------
Chablis...??? 
Now you're talking!! What a discerning chap you are, Ship.... a man after my own heart!!
Hic!!
Now you're talking!! What a discerning chap you are, Ship.... a man after my own heart!! Hic!!------ This thread is Archived ------
hello friends of America,
it´s not allowed in America to drink alcohol on public beaches?
You see me surprises...
it seems to be different to our country...
it isn´t forbidden here, and sometimes we have party in the evening -
on public beaches -
they bring barbecue -
and alcohol to the beach -
and nothing will happen - so why is it forbidden?
no acts of force ...
maybe acts of 
it´s not allowed in America to drink alcohol on public beaches?
You see me surprises...
it seems to be different to our country...
it isn´t forbidden here, and sometimes we have party in the evening -
on public beaches -
they bring barbecue -
and alcohol to the beach -
and nothing will happen - so why is it forbidden?
no acts of force ...
maybe acts of ------ This thread is Archived ------
I think you are once again missing my point. I am not dismissing the rights of children, I am all for protecting them! They have the right to use the beach, as do I. I am not "costing' anyone any freedom. I believe that if what I am doing does not harm you, than you have no business regulating my behavior. If and when my behavior begins to affect you in a negative manner, and in an unlawful way, you have a recourse available. You can call a park guard, or a police officer if you witness someone breaking the law. But to regulate my rights because of something that "might" happen is not what this country (or Canada) is about.
You're right, people can be crazy. But look at hte number of people on Youtube, Myspace and all that, then see how many of them are wild and crazy. It's a small percentage. Don't believe the hype. Most people are respectful and just want to be left alone. The antics of the few get the media coverage, but that is no way to make laws.....
You're right, people can be crazy. But look at hte number of people on Youtube, Myspace and all that, then see how many of them are wild and crazy. It's a small percentage. Don't believe the hype. Most people are respectful and just want to be left alone. The antics of the few get the media coverage, but that is no way to make laws.....
------ This thread is Archived ------
oops..forgot to quote, it's for Mark.------ This thread is Archived ------
.....are we getting close to group hug time? 
------ This thread is Archived ------
------ This thread is Archived ------
umm not sure my indyman...but i'm gonna hug ya!!!
------ This thread is Archived ------
When I said "You" I was referring to the general public, not you as a person. Only the first sentence was to let you know I was replying to you, my friend!
------ This thread is Archived ------
It'll be forbidden everywhere if the bible thumpers have their way! 
We can bring alcohol to most public beaches now, unless it is forbidden by law. Most allow it though.
We can bring alcohol to most public beaches now, unless it is forbidden by law. Most allow it though.
------ This thread is Archived ------
I work in an environment where the stupidity factor is dangerous and often fatal so I understand the complications and frustrations of regulations. Warnings on coffe cups to be careful of hot beverages comes to mind. I think you give the masses too much credit though as every bar has a fair share of idiocy on every given night. Fights and such for reasons that would not be grand enough to bother without the 'bravery' medication. Responsible adults should be allowed to do as they please and not fear repercussions but sadly there are many who do not understand responsibility or can even spell it.
The mining regulations book that we are forced to work under make doing the simplest of tasks nigh unbearable and long enough that I do not appreciate many of the rules.
Common sense is an oxymoron in our society and therein lies my point.
Mark
The mining regulations book that we are forced to work under make doing the simplest of tasks nigh unbearable and long enough that I do not appreciate many of the rules.
Common sense is an oxymoron in our society and therein lies my point.
Mark
------ This thread is Archived ------
Re-evaluate your comment. I've never heard a "bible thumper" opposed to cigarette smoking in public....it's the people who are interested in protecting us from ourselves, because only they know what's good for us. You figure it out~~
------ This thread is Archived ------
Ship Do you have a personal connection with the president of the USA???
or are you under the impression that he carries a conspiracy to get you???
or are you under the impression that he carries a conspiracy to get you???
------ This thread is Archived ------
ok...
when I understand you right, so it isn´t forbidden all in America, only in several states there ... and sometimes they tolorate it also in these states ... till something would happen ... and is their the police on the beaches to watch ... to keep care?
when I understand you right, so it isn´t forbidden all in America, only in several states there ... and sometimes they tolorate it also in these states ... till something would happen ... and is their the police on the beaches to watch ... to keep care?
------ This thread is Archived ------
yes the police patrol the beaches, here!!
------ This thread is Archived ------
I worked in bars for over a decade. Since we are using personal experience here, I can say that in the 10 years I worked in a bar, I saw maybe 3 or 4 fights. And this was a college bar, with drunk college kids. What I am saying is that we cannot argue this from a personal point of view. I do not think I am giving anyone too much credit. What I am saying is that until they break the law, they are able to do as they please. And really, most people do adhere to common sense. It's the few that do not that cause the problems. But, can we make rules because a few people can't follow societies standards? I hope not! People drive cars crazy sometimes, we should ban them. People eat too much food, we should regulate what we sell at the store. People shoot people sometimes with guns, we should ban all guns. See? It just doesn't work!
------ This thread is Archived ------
I agree with you. The "do-good" liberals are as bad as the "control your life" conservatives. I think my views are more in line with classic conservatism (or perhaps libertarian) than anything else.
And look at the anti-alcohol movements throughout history (even today). Most are religious-based, and for the "common good". My point is, just as liberals involve themselves in every aspect of life, as do this new breed of religious conservatives.
And look at the anti-alcohol movements throughout history (even today). Most are religious-based, and for the "common good". My point is, just as liberals involve themselves in every aspect of life, as do this new breed of religious conservatives.
------ This thread is Archived ------
This Thread is Archived
This Thread is archived, so you will no longer be able to post to it. Threads get archived automatically when they are older than 3 months.
« Go back to All Threads
« Go back to All Threads
More Threads
1830's Music
How far is too far?
Nature
Salami, Salami, Baloney
your personality
Don Shits-In-Pants!!!
rarotonga
everything is changing
Common Issues with the BMW X1
other can see but not you
More Threads
Report threads that break rules, are offensive, or contain fighting. Staff may not be aware of the forum abuse, and cannot do anything about it unless you tell us about it. click to report forum abuse »
If one of the comments is offensive, please report the comment instead (there is a link in each comment to report it).
If one of the comments is offensive, please report the comment instead (there is a link in each comment to report it).
I do not drink very often, but when I want to I do not like being restricted to where I must attend. I do not get drunk in public, but nor am I inconsiderate when I have been drunk.
I am going to shut up again.