Agree with you ... No matter what anybody says (me included in the past) I don't believe one can "fall in love" or even just "love" someone they have never met face to face as no tangible exchanges have taken place.
I don't believe one can "fall in love" or even just "love" someone they have never met face to face as no tangible exchanges have taken place.
Is tangible the only way that you can experience anything ????? When an artist finds inspiration, a poet feels passion, a traveller seeks new places that have not been in their experience,????????????
Trust in yourself first, Open to the extraordinary
"I was afraid that by observing objects with my eyes and trying to comprehend them with each of my other senses I might blind my soul altogether." Socrates...
In response to: Is tangible the only way that you can experience anything ????? When an artist finds inspiration, a poet feels passion, a traveller seeks new places that have not been in their experience,????????????
Well I'll delve into my own sordid past to reply to this...
I spent 9 months having phone conversations with a man who worked for the same company that I was working for but in a different state. We spoke at least 3 times a week and we talked about everything. He would call first thing Monday morning and we would discuss our weekends, we exchanged ideas and ideals, we opened our hearts and souls to each other and I felt myself falling in love with this voice on the phone. We had photos of each other and found each other attractive, and finally he was coming to California...
He made reservations at a fantastic restaurant for our first date... the anticipation and excitement... and then we met, face to face and.... pffffffttt nothing! We spent dinner discussing the fact that we had no chemistry and wound up being good friends, but we both had thought we had met our soul-mates, yes we had actually used those words with each other.
No, it wasn't a total waste by any means, I got a new friend out of the deal... but just goes to show... love is a funny thing!
In response to: the basis of mutual feelings and understanding with genuine joy in each others personality, combined with the willingness to commit, not being afraid to make ammendments in ones own life - can make it happen !!
Do you think that this actually happens in real life? Are there people who Realy honest and committed in a relationship? ..... or is this just an Ideal of Fantasy?.... what we would like it to be like?
Do you think that this actually happens in real life? Are there people who Realy honest and committed in a relationship? ..... or is this just an Ideal of Fantasy?.... what we would like it to be like?
Yes... Ahhhhh Beliiieeeve!!! Why be in a relationship unless you can be committed and honest? Of course this could be why I haven't been in a long term relationship for 23 years
In response to: Yes... Ahhhhh Beliiieeeve!!! Why be in a relationship unless you can be committed and honest? Of course this could be why I haven't been in a long term relationship for 23 years
Oh I Beliieeeeve! I think I just the hopeless romantic .... in one sided relationships ....And I am the one who is committed and honest, to discover that the other has the famous "hidden agenda" thing. I`m just wondering if these things Actually Happen in Real Life? Where BOTH people are committed and honest? Hasn`t been my experience, at all.
Oh sometimes I see very old people, who`ve been married or together for 50 or 60yrs ..... and they seem to be a Real Couple, still caring for each other, still holding hands and looking starry eyed at each other.....Or are those the one-offs?
In response to: Oh sometimes I see very old people, who`ve been married or together for 50 or 60yrs ..... and they seem to be a Real Couple, still caring for each other, still holding hands and looking starry eyed at each other.....Or are those the one-offs?
No, I don't think one offs, I come from a huge family aunts uncles, cousins, brothers and sisters, My sister and I are the only divorces in our entire family (and she has since remarried very happily}which is spread out through the States, Scotland, Australia, Ibiza and Canada.
Even my daughter is in an amazing relationship and has been for 7 years (getting married march 2008 ) My parents have been together for 49 years and are still in love and show it to each other. I was even in one for 3 years and love him to this day, and ended the relationship for the most incredibly stupid reasons that I won't go into here.
So no, i do believe and have seen it and experienced it!
Trust in yourself first, Open to the extraordinary, works both ways... needs to work both ways.
"I was afraid that by observing objects with my eyes and trying to comprehend them with each of my other senses I might blind my soul altogether." Socrates...
Those that have only the view of observing objects/people with the determination of control may have missed the obvious, only to provide themselves a greater need within them, unable to relate without the extreme need to provide for others as they were never provided for.
Yes I'm sure that the personal interactions that take place between people are private, and should stay this way. No display of the information specific to anyone serves the people concerned in any way other than to fuel public comment and gossip.
That sounds like a horrible experience and makes me glad i have a rebellious streak, my back goes up the second someone tells me to do something! Do you find that people who continually spout how spiritual they are, usually are the least spiritual people you meet?
In response to: Yes I'm sure that the personal interactions that take place between people are private, and should stay this way. No display of the information specific to anyone serves the people concerned in any way other than to fuel public comment and gossip
I am wishing that that comment is directed AT 2 people ... but it probably isn't ... don't care one way or another ...
Well, Flower, you sure sussed that one out in time! ... and survived it too.
And jbibiza`s comment about "spiritual" people ..... yes, I keep saying this because it keeps proving itself SO true ..... Whatever someone claims for themselves always seems to end up the opposite of what they actually are..... Why?
I`ve had people say they are not Cruel - and the seen them do the most cruel things. Ditto with Honesty. And Faithfulness. And all the other important things ......that can harm the people who trust them.
And then you get the people who claim nothing special about themselves .... they just behave decently.
..... I think it`s called "Walking the Walk .... Not Talking the Talk"?
--- Smoky --- enjoy weaving your baskets--- after these many years they sure are becoming more ornate--- as is your mastership of the Innuendo --- a little like the Swiss Banks
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