~~What is wrong with you Americans?~~ (596)
airliner: What is more disturbing, in this case, is that it is coming from Marina, Who I always thought was a well informed and fair minded individual.
Prejudice and unsubstantiated fear are forms of ignorance in my opinion. People criticizing Americans with generalizations like this, when they say "Americans" rather than "some Americans", are just as ignorant as the people they criticize.
well, what do I know.....I am just an average airliner
Prejudice and unsubstantiated fear are forms of ignorance in my opinion. People criticizing Americans with generalizations like this, when they say "Americans" rather than "some Americans", are just as ignorant as the people they criticize.
well, what do I know.....I am just an average airliner
In agreement with you.
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Munichtexan: Collectivist cultures (which includes many of the Asian countries ( and since I am originally Russian … I may state ... Russia as well) - tend to accept that different groups have different values.
I have found some examples how different countries in the World see Americans. ( I hope you not going to shoot a group of analysts for this research)
I tend to love these kind of posts. Everyone wants to generalize. So - just to point out that generalization is not real! Try being of Dark skin and going to Moscow. The idea that Russians tend to accept that different groups have different values was lost real quick on my friend from India when he had his camera slammed into his face by the security guard pushing him out of the museum at 18:00 (last year right at closing time)
But please understand, this is not how all Russians act. It was only a certain few who left the long lasting impression on my friend as to "how" Russians act. So please can we kill this posting where generalizations are given as "fact" on a regular basis by people who read the news that is designed to "excite you" so you will read it. Or have spent 1 or 2 weeks in a country and are now experts, or see a few tourists, read a few "experts" and believe this is the makeup of an entire country. Obama and Clinton are in the news because "people read it". That is all, nothing more or less.
As a point, I could make a generalization that Russians are only concerned about "money". You have a multitude of expressions related to "money" and tend to charge foreigners up to 5 times the normal price if you hear them speaking English. I could also claim that Russia is nothing but a bunch of KGB turned Mafia, but that would unfairly represent the normal Russian Citizen.
America is a huge country with diverse cultures- you can no more generalize Americans then you can claim that people from St. Petersburg represent Azbekistan. (Keep in mind - this is what Analysts do, they collect information from a small group and then like to pretend it represents everyone!)
I have found some examples how different countries in the World see Americans. ( I hope you not going to shoot a group of analysts for this research)
I tend to love these kind of posts. Everyone wants to generalize. So - just to point out that generalization is not real! Try being of Dark skin and going to Moscow. The idea that Russians tend to accept that different groups have different values was lost real quick on my friend from India when he had his camera slammed into his face by the security guard pushing him out of the museum at 18:00 (last year right at closing time)
But please understand, this is not how all Russians act. It was only a certain few who left the long lasting impression on my friend as to "how" Russians act. So please can we kill this posting where generalizations are given as "fact" on a regular basis by people who read the news that is designed to "excite you" so you will read it. Or have spent 1 or 2 weeks in a country and are now experts, or see a few tourists, read a few "experts" and believe this is the makeup of an entire country. Obama and Clinton are in the news because "people read it". That is all, nothing more or less.
As a point, I could make a generalization that Russians are only concerned about "money". You have a multitude of expressions related to "money" and tend to charge foreigners up to 5 times the normal price if you hear them speaking English. I could also claim that Russia is nothing but a bunch of KGB turned Mafia, but that would unfairly represent the normal Russian Citizen.
America is a huge country with diverse cultures- you can no more generalize Americans then you can claim that people from St. Petersburg represent Azbekistan. (Keep in mind - this is what Analysts do, they collect information from a small group and then like to pretend it represents everyone!)
You have earned a standing ovation!
and here I was thinking in terms of the Logics class I took in high school: Soldiers in the Canal Zone (Panama) are Americans. All Americans are soldiers. All American Soldiers are obnoxious ergo all Americans are obnoxious.
I have no idea how did this thread went from discussing the "alleged" Muslim background of Obama, to the generalization of American behaviour and the way they are viewed through out the world.
But for debates sake, I would really like to see this go to the Original Post and stick to debating the points expressed there.
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Munichtexan: Collectivist cultures (which includes many of the Asian countries ( and since I am originally Russian … I may state ... Russia as well) - tend to accept that different groups have different values.
I have found some examples how different countries in the World see Americans. ( I hope you not going to shoot a group of analysts for this research)
I tend to love these kind of posts. Everyone wants to generalize. So - just to point out that generalization is not real! Try being of Dark skin and going to Moscow. The idea that Russians tend to accept that different groups have different values was lost real quick on my friend from India when he had his camera slammed into his face by the security guard pushing him out of the museum at 18:00 (last year right at closing time)
But please understand, this is not how all Russians act. It was only a certain few who left the long lasting impression on my friend as to "how" Russians act. So please can we kill this posting where generalizations are given as "fact" on a regular basis by people who read the news that is designed to "excite you" so you will read it. Or have spent 1 or 2 weeks in a country and are now experts, or see a few tourists, read a few "experts" and believe this is the makeup of an entire country. Obama and Clinton are in the news because "people read it". That is all, nothing more or less.
As a point, I could make a generalization that Russians are only concerned about "money". You have a multitude of expressions related to "money" and tend to charge foreigners up to 5 times the normal price if you hear them speaking English. I could also claim that Russia is nothing but a bunch of KGB turned Mafia, but that would unfairly represent the normal Russian Citizen.
America is a huge country with diverse cultures- you can no more generalize Americans then you can claim that people from St. Petersburg represent Azbekistan. (Keep in mind - this is what Analysts do, they collect information from a small group and then like to pretend it represents everyone!)
I have found some examples how different countries in the World see Americans. ( I hope you not going to shoot a group of analysts for this research)
I tend to love these kind of posts. Everyone wants to generalize. So - just to point out that generalization is not real! Try being of Dark skin and going to Moscow. The idea that Russians tend to accept that different groups have different values was lost real quick on my friend from India when he had his camera slammed into his face by the security guard pushing him out of the museum at 18:00 (last year right at closing time)
But please understand, this is not how all Russians act. It was only a certain few who left the long lasting impression on my friend as to "how" Russians act. So please can we kill this posting where generalizations are given as "fact" on a regular basis by people who read the news that is designed to "excite you" so you will read it. Or have spent 1 or 2 weeks in a country and are now experts, or see a few tourists, read a few "experts" and believe this is the makeup of an entire country. Obama and Clinton are in the news because "people read it". That is all, nothing more or less.
As a point, I could make a generalization that Russians are only concerned about "money". You have a multitude of expressions related to "money" and tend to charge foreigners up to 5 times the normal price if you hear them speaking English. I could also claim that Russia is nothing but a bunch of KGB turned Mafia, but that would unfairly represent the normal Russian Citizen.
America is a huge country with diverse cultures- you can no more generalize Americans then you can claim that people from St. Petersburg represent Azbekistan. (Keep in mind - this is what Analysts do, they collect information from a small group and then like to pretend it represents everyone!)
Thanks Munichtexan for your response
The only problem with your perception of my collected information is ( as I see it) is
You missing the fact .... that in Russia black or any dark skinned person is an Exotic ... we do not have them down there. Those few that live in Russia or students or temporary teachers of English or other languages and mainly they live in a big cities.
Even more if a darkskinned person will appear on the streets of rural villages or towns ... people seeing them will cross themselves. Because they have NEVER seen those races before. And they can be forgiven for doing this I assume.
I'm really sorry to what happened to your Indian friend ( but again it can happen in every country)
btw Do you know how we distingvish American tourists in Russia? Their shoelaces are always untied and they do have those belt wallets on them.
If you will read in in Collectivistic and Individualistic terms more carefuly paying attention and using logic and common sense. ... you will find that this is true.
As for America .... as a country USA is so young .... you have a lot to learn from ancient European and Middle Eastern and Asian countries yet. I wish you will keep your mind open and accept the wisdom of those Cultures.
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I wish you will keep your mind open and accept the wisdom of those Cultures.
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should have just been:
mind open
mind open
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solitare: and now that Bush has his trillions of dollars budget, for which most of it will go to the military to keep 2 wars going with a possible third with Iran, but the bulk being for the only assessed US opponent being China in a protracted series of guerrilla wars and further "terror campaigns" if not out-right military confrontations over the last remaining natural oil and gas resources left on the planet for which the Pentagon is now starting to gear up for. Assesments for a possible alliance of Russia and China has already been dismissed as "unlikely" given their history during the last attempted alliance. If it forms, the Pentagon assessments do not give it any serious problems for the US, it will be war as usual policy with all the attendant scare tactics and propaganda barrages..lovely.
Soltiare, I know things can look pretty bleak in the world when it comes to armed conflicts. It has been part of man's history since two cave tribes bumbed into each other over a dead dianosor and fought over its prime cuts.
Several questions you need to ask though. And some FYI.
First question is this. If terrorists get weapons of mass destruction that will not bring any balance of fear as what happened in the Cold war. That balance of fear then did bring about some stablity and did allow both a broken Europe and Japan to rebuild from WWII. What good could come out of terrorists with WMDs? Because they have in the past used them and will in the future if they can acquire them.
If your answer is like mine....none. Then we are really on the same side. We might disapprove of the tactics and methods that are being used to keep that from happening. But there is a solid common ground between us.
Second question. With both a Russian and China arming. Can the west
afford not be developing her weapons programs? to do her military deployments? The 90s might have seen the break up of the Soviet Union. But democracies do fight each other over land, over ideology, over that prime cut of mathsodon. Putin has renounced the Conventional Arms Agreement several months ago. That agreement had kept Russian military away from the the Russian and European country borders. Today, Russian armor divisions are deployed along them. In cold war invasion positions.
Soltaire, do you want the United State to pull out of NATO bring her troop home or send them elsewhere? We have a lot on table right now, Soltaire. We sure could use them elsewhere. But guess what, we will stand by our commitments to Europe, just as we stood by our
commitments to Korea. But give us break, man. When we are willing to put our people between you and alot of Russian T-82s.
Here is the FYI. Our Joint Chiefs did a paper on military operations on Iran. Boots on the ground kind of operations, like in Iraq today. They strongly advised against it. This does not mean that other military options are not still on the table. If I was tell you that, you would say he is not telling the straight stuff. They are working the military options there. But most leaders here today, recognize that the best option for Iran is some kind of regime change. That it is more likely to happen from within Iran than from Military operations. The Iraq/Iran war only solidified the Iranian people behind the Clerics and Mullahs and fundamental Islam. We don't want to to do that again. But as they develop nuclear programs/devices that can be given to terrorist, the pressure to use miltiary options will only grow. That brings us back to question no.1.
Let us drink a beer sometime, Solitare because since WWII we have kept a lid on WMDs. Kept people alive from terrorism. Kept WWIII from happening. Look at the wins as we also count the loses where we failed to stop a conflict from occurring or end it soon enough.------ This thread is Archived ------
prncss4someone: I wish you will keep your mind open and accept the wisdom of those Cultures.
I wish you could understand the wisdom and the different cultural way of Iraq before your Goverment has sent your children, loved ones and relatives to die over there.
I so hope your narrowminded Goverment will stay away from Iran ... it is going t be suicide if USA Goverment will do it.
Aren't it so easy to spend War money on your daycares, health,edication, on creating more workplaces for your homeless and less fortunate citizens ... instead your Govermet invests and gain more and more in mindless neverending Wars. (especially in Afganistan)
Does it make your Goverment to be concerned with inner politics to help you Americans to have a future for your children?
You should pay more attention to your own problems than to the World's problems.
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Konigsberg: Thanks Munichtexan for your response The only problem with your perception of my collected information is ( as I see it) is
You missing the fact .... that in Russia black or any dark skinned person is an Exotic ... we do not have them down there. Those few that live in Russia or students or temporary teachers of English or other languages and mainly they live in a big cities.
Even more if a darkskinned person will appear on the streets of rural villages or towns ... people seeing them will cross themselves. Because they have NEVER seen those races before. And they can be forgiven for doing this I assume
I'm really sorry to what happened to your Indian friend ( but again it can happen in every country) btw Do you know how we distingvish American tourists in Russia? Their shoelaces are always untied and they do have those belt wallets on them.
If you will read in in Collectivistic and Individualistic terms more carefuly paying attention and using logic and common sense. ... you will find that this is true.
As for America .... as a country USA is so young .... you have a lot to learn from ancient European and Middle Eastern and Asian countries yet. I wish you will keep your mind open and accept the wisdom of those Cultures.
You missing the fact .... that in Russia black or any dark skinned person is an Exotic ... we do not have them down there. Those few that live in Russia or students or temporary teachers of English or other languages and mainly they live in a big cities.
Even more if a darkskinned person will appear on the streets of rural villages or towns ... people seeing them will cross themselves. Because they have NEVER seen those races before. And they can be forgiven for doing this I assume
I'm really sorry to what happened to your Indian friend ( but again it can happen in every country) btw Do you know how we distingvish American tourists in Russia? Their shoelaces are always untied and they do have those belt wallets on them.
If you will read in in Collectivistic and Individualistic terms more carefuly paying attention and using logic and common sense. ... you will find that this is true.
As for America .... as a country USA is so young .... you have a lot to learn from ancient European and Middle Eastern and Asian countries yet. I wish you will keep your mind open and accept the wisdom of those Cultures.
I COPIED AND PASTED THIS FROM A PREVIOUS POST OF YOURS, MARINA, IN THIS SAME THREAD
Give the man the chance
there is no certainty that he will be able to bring country back Global Health Plan is nothing against economical and edicational, political falling down.
Being a President requeries total understanding of situation and what constructive actions can be done to change it for the better.
This is not a high school .... where a chance can be given to a student whose behaviour is far from reseasonable and if he'she fails they can't be sent to a boot camp.
It is all about to be a President of 300.000 people.
His backgroung is questionable. JMO
Correct me if I am wrong: You are asking us here (in your response to Munichtexan) to overlook unkindness and insult when some Russian (Making sure I do not insult ALL Russians, just a few) from the country side, crosses himself/herself upon sighting of an "exotic" individual, because according to you, out of ignorance they would not recognize it as another human being, just because of a difference in skin color? Read your own post above. The man doesn't deserve a chance (according to you), his background is questionable, and his "Muslim" associations make him guilty (read Muslim) by proxy...
I shouldn't be swimming in these waters I don't have a GPS to navigate safely
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and it is cold in the Barents Sea! 
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Fallingman: and it is cold in the Barents Sea!
It's really warm here! and the weekend is a few hours away! Yupeeee!!!!
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Konigsberg: Hans ... I just do not understand what is so diturbing do you see in my simple question?
When you ...some Americans say Russian or Nigerian scammer ... you do not stress on SOME, you generalize RUSSIAN, NIGERIAN. And what about O! Those Russians!? not some but Russians again.
I do not see any harm done to your cultural proudness by Asking "What is wrong with you Americans?" but maybe because I am Russian.
Still like and respect you.
When you ...some Americans say Russian or Nigerian scammer ... you do not stress on SOME, you generalize RUSSIAN, NIGERIAN. And what about O! Those Russians!? not some but Russians again.
I do not see any harm done to your cultural proudness by Asking "What is wrong with you Americans?" but maybe because I am Russian.
Still like and respect you.
Marina,
The disturbing part is not the question, as I know, there are a number of things that are wrong with us Americans. (hopefully we will fix some of those problems within the next few generations) The problem I have is your condescending religious remark against Senator Obama and your generalization.
I personally never generalize and never attribute individual characteristics to a nation as a whole. To make my point, when I think of you, I don't think of you being Russian. I think of you as Marina, my online friend. Your ethnic inheritance is of no relevance to our friendship. To that end, I have some wonderful off-line friends, who are from Russia as well. We often discuss a wide range of social topics and we laugh together.
Last but not least, although I have some Germanic blood in me, the name is Hank, not Hans
Be well dear
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OUTRAGEOUS: I COPIED AND PASTED THIS FROM A PREVIOUS POST OF YOURS, MARINA, IN THIS SAME THREAD
Give the man the chance
there is no certainty that he will be able to bring country back Global Health Plan is nothing against economical and edicational, political falling down.
Being a President requeries total understanding of situation and what constructive actions can be done to change it for the better. This is not a high school .... where a chance can be given to a student whose behaviour is far from reseasonable and if he'she fails they can't be sent to a boot camp.
It is all about to be a President of 300.000 people.
His backgroung is questionable. JMO Correct me if I am wrong: You are asking us here (in your response to Munichtexan) to overlook unkindness and insult when some Russian (Making sure I do not insult ALL Russians, just a few) from the country side, crosses himself/herself upon sighting of an "exotic" individual, because according to you, out of ignorance they would not recognize it as another human being , just because of a difference in skin color? Read your own post above. The man doesn't deserve a chance (according to you), his background is questionable, and his "Muslim" associations make him guilty (read Muslim) by proxy...
I shouldn't be swimming in these waters I don't have a GPS to navigate safely
Give the man the chance
there is no certainty that he will be able to bring country back Global Health Plan is nothing against economical and edicational, political falling down.
Being a President requeries total understanding of situation and what constructive actions can be done to change it for the better. This is not a high school .... where a chance can be given to a student whose behaviour is far from reseasonable and if he'she fails they can't be sent to a boot camp.
It is all about to be a President of 300.000 people.
His backgroung is questionable. JMO Correct me if I am wrong: You are asking us here (in your response to Munichtexan) to overlook unkindness and insult when some Russian (Making sure I do not insult ALL Russians, just a few) from the country side, crosses himself/herself upon sighting of an "exotic" individual, because according to you, out of ignorance they would not recognize it as another human being , just because of a difference in skin color? Read your own post above. The man doesn't deserve a chance (according to you), his background is questionable, and his "Muslim" associations make him guilty (read Muslim) by proxy...
I shouldn't be swimming in these waters I don't have a GPS to navigate safely
Good morning or it is afternoon your way?
To me it makes very little sense that in times when American Nation shivers from the word Islamic, Muslim ... in times when you invaded Iraq and thinking (very seriously) to open a War with Iran and still have battles in Afganistan and especcially after 9/11 you even consider the fact that a person who was born from a muslim father and had a muslim step father ...to be your President.
I think Riya was very right by saying it is just a wrong time for Barack Hussen Obama to be an American President.
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airliner: Marina,
The disturbing part is not the question, as I know, there are a number of things that are wrong with us Americans. (hopefully we will fix some of those problems within the next few generations) The problem I have is your condescending religious remark against Senator Obama and your generalization.
I personally never generalize and never attribute individual characteristics to a nation as a whole. To make my point, when I think of you, I don't think of you being Russian. I think of you as Marina, my online friend. Your ethnic inheritance is of no relevance to our friendship. To that end, I have some wonderful off-line friends, who are from Russia as well. We often discuss a wide range of social topics and we laugh together.
Last but not least, although I have some Germanic blood in me, the name is Hank, not Hans
Be well dear
The disturbing part is not the question, as I know, there are a number of things that are wrong with us Americans. (hopefully we will fix some of those problems within the next few generations) The problem I have is your condescending religious remark against Senator Obama and your generalization.
I personally never generalize and never attribute individual characteristics to a nation as a whole. To make my point, when I think of you, I don't think of you being Russian. I think of you as Marina, my online friend. Your ethnic inheritance is of no relevance to our friendship. To that end, I have some wonderful off-line friends, who are from Russia as well. We often discuss a wide range of social topics and we laugh together.
Last but not least, although I have some Germanic blood in me, the name is Hank, not Hans
Be well dear
Hank you understood it wrong ......... To be a muslim is a part of some Middle Eatern cultures. Which have traits that us Western people will never understand. One part of this culture is ........ being a very good diplomats Middle Eastern people will keep a smile on their face while talking to you .... but you will never understand what's going on inside of mind. Their are very patient and able to wait for a very long time .... to come with something you would ever expect.
and I do except and really envy their ability to keep cool in a moment of anger.
To me Religion doesn't exist (as i said before I am a Pagan child) it is all about Cultures, communication, an ability to listen and to learn.
Hans it would be so boring if we would have the same point of view on everthing.
I going to listen to the rumble of Ocean. Gorgeous day your way.
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btw Do you know how we distingvish American tourists in Russia? Their shoelaces are always untied and they do have those belt wallets on them.
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Cbond36: btw Do you know how we distingvish American tourists in Russia? Their shoelaces are always untied and they do have those belt wallets on them.
i am serious .... Oh! and another one they are always soooo noisy ------ This thread is Archived ------
Konigsberg: i am serious .... Oh! and another one they are always soooo noisy
ok now Kon..ur pushing it!!!!
and if in not wearing flip flops my shoes are always tied, so i dont trip..LOL..you could pick me out there anyways...i'd be looking like..aahh duh!
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Konigsberg: Good morning or it is afternoon your way?
To me it makes very little sense that in times when American Nation shivers from the word Islamic, Muslim ... in times when you invaded Iraq and thinking (very seriously) to open a War with Iran and still have battles in Afganistan and especcially after 9/11 you even consider the fact that a person who was born from a muslim father and had a muslim step father ...to be your President. I think Riya was very right by saying it is just a wrong time for Barack Hussen Obama to be an American President.
To me it makes very little sense that in times when American Nation shivers from the word Islamic, Muslim ... in times when you invaded Iraq and thinking (very seriously) to open a War with Iran and still have battles in Afganistan and especcially after 9/11 you even consider the fact that a person who was born from a muslim father and had a muslim step father ...to be your President. I think Riya was very right by saying it is just a wrong time for Barack Hussen Obama to be an American President.
Hello dear, Actually it is the middle of the day! and really warm outside.First of all, I AM NOT AMERICAN, as per from the United States of America, but american since I was born in the American continent - that's food for another argument- and whatever their decision to do with their tax dollars is their problem. Now, I would be a fool to think that what happens in the US does not affect my country and the rest of the world. It does.
What I am concerned about is, and I have being saying this all along, the judgment passed upon Barak Hussein Oabama and the fact that Obama was born to a Muslim father and had a Muslim stepfather does not, automatically, make him a Muslim. Islam is a religion or philisophy, not a race. You become a Muslim by choice, not by inheritance or birth.
I can see that narrow minded people are trying to market the inadequacy of his background to stop him frOm racing... But like others have said, I would like to see him lose due to some actual facts and not to a bunch of BS.
What gives more rights to a Christian to become President of the United States than a Muslim? Or a Jew? or a Hindi?
Is not in the Constitution and the man has the right to profess any religious affiliation of his chosing, which is his Constitutional right!
If he is not fit for the job, then, he will not succeed. But to discriminate him because of his believes or religion or culture, or ethnicity is ILLEGAL, and those that support this ludicrous path are wrong.
IMHO
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OUTRAGEOUS: Hello dear, Actually it is the middle of the day! and really warm outside.
First of all, I AM NOT AMERICAN, as per from the United States of America, but american since I was born in the American continent - that's food for another argument- and whatever their decision to do with their tax dollars is their problem. Now, I would be a fool to think that what happens in the US does not affect my country and the rest of the world. It does.
What I am concerned about is, and I have being saying this all along, the judgment passed upon Barak Hussein Oabama and the fact that Obama was born to a Muslim father and had a Muslim stepfather does not, automatically, make him a Muslim. Islam is a religion or philisophy, not a race. You become a Muslim by choice, not by inheritance or birth.
I can see that narrow minded people are trying to market the inadequacy of his background to stop him frOm racing... But like others have said, I would like to see him lose due to some actual facts and not to a bunch of BS.
What gives more rights to a Christian to become President of the United States than a Muslim? Or a Jew? or a Hindi?
Is not in the Constitution and the man has the right to profess any religious affiliation of his chosing, which is his Constitutional right!
If he is not fit for the job, then, he will not succeed. But to discriminate him because of his believes or religion or culture, or ethnicity is ILLEGAL, and those that support this ludicrous path are wrong.
IMHO
I think your cool...First of all, I AM NOT AMERICAN, as per from the United States of America, but american since I was born in the American continent - that's food for another argument- and whatever their decision to do with their tax dollars is their problem. Now, I would be a fool to think that what happens in the US does not affect my country and the rest of the world. It does.
What I am concerned about is, and I have being saying this all along, the judgment passed upon Barak Hussein Oabama and the fact that Obama was born to a Muslim father and had a Muslim stepfather does not, automatically, make him a Muslim. Islam is a religion or philisophy, not a race. You become a Muslim by choice, not by inheritance or birth.
I can see that narrow minded people are trying to market the inadequacy of his background to stop him frOm racing... But like others have said, I would like to see him lose due to some actual facts and not to a bunch of BS.
What gives more rights to a Christian to become President of the United States than a Muslim? Or a Jew? or a Hindi?
Is not in the Constitution and the man has the right to profess any religious affiliation of his chosing, which is his Constitutional right!
If he is not fit for the job, then, he will not succeed. But to discriminate him because of his believes or religion or culture, or ethnicity is ILLEGAL, and those that support this ludicrous path are wrong.
IMHO
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blue_eyed_blonde: I think your cool...
THANK YOU MY FRIEND! You're great yourself!
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Prejudice and unsubstantiated fear are forms of ignorance in my opinion. People criticizing Americans with generalizations like this, when they say "Americans" rather than "some Americans", are just as ignorant as the people they criticize.
well, what do I know.....I am just an average airliner
Hans ... I just do not understand what is so diturbing do you see in my simple question?
When you ...some Americans say Russian or Nigerian scammer ... you do not stress on SOME, you generalize RUSSIAN, NIGERIAN. And what about O! Those Russians!? not some but Russians again.
I do not see any harm done to your cultural proudness by Asking "What is wrong with you Americans?" but maybe because I am Russian.
Still like and respect you.