No favour goes unpunished (19)

Mar 18, 2008 1:36 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
Do you agree ? Seems to me the people who have tried to hurt me the most have been the ones I,ve done the most for. Friend of mine used to say " treat em mean keep em keen" Didn,t like this as a philosophy,however.........dunno
Mar 18, 2008 1:38 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Elley: Do you agree ? Seems to me the people who have tried to hurt me the most have been the ones I,ve done the most for. ........


Dat`s life!
Mar 18, 2008 1:40 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
smoky: Dat`s life!


Indeed
Mar 18, 2008 1:43 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
Elley: Do you agree ? Seems to me the people who have tried to hurt me the most have been the ones I,ve done the most for. Friend of mine used to say " treat em mean keep em keen" Didn,t like this as a philosophy,however.........


Are you sure that you do not "collect" only the bad things Elley??

Think back, think hard and I`m sure that you`ll remember good things as well.

But even small things seems much worse if its done by a person you are close to.. (Also the good things)



hug
Mar 18, 2008 1:47 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
u2Kitty:



But even small things seems much worse if its done by a person you are close to.. (Also the good things)


Hmmm, I do not mean worse - more like biggerwave
Mar 18, 2008 1:50 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
u2Kitty: Are you sure that you do not "collect" only the bad things Elley??

Think back, think hard and I`m sure that you`ll remember good things as well.

But even small things seems much worse if its done by a person you are close to.. (Also the good things)


Maybe that`s because it`s for the ones we love that we do the most, not realy expecting anything back? Then, when they go off-tangent and do hurtful things - we get confused and hurt?

Oh well, as long as the things you did were done with a good heart and good intentions ...... Remember, what goes around comes around ..... and that realy is true.cheers
Mar 18, 2008 1:52 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
smoky: Maybe that`s because it`s for the ones we love that we do the most, not realy expecting anything back? Then, when they go off-tangent and do hurtful things - we get confused and hurt?

Oh well, as long as the things you did were done with a good heart and good intentions ...... Remember, what goes around comes around ..... and that realy is true.


Oh I could tell you lots about what goes round......it does. So kisses to all.banana
Mar 18, 2008 1:53 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
You would`nt bore me Elley - I also knew that you are a quite positive personwave wave wave wine
Mar 18, 2008 3:09 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
breezee
breezeebreezeeathens, Attica Greece20 Threads 1,136 Posts
Hi Elley wave

This is just what I think.....

You unconsciously put yourself in a position of superiority over the person you help or do a favour for. You may be the nicest, most humble, well-meaning human being on earth, but just the fact that you were able to help someone puts you in a superior position above that person.....

People have EGOS.
They don't like being in a position to need help.
And sometimes they don't forgive you for being in a position to help them.
Sooner or later, they will find a reason to hate you because they already resent you for helping....

Generalising here, of course.....
There is always that rarest of all human beings who knows how to value kindness above pride....
Like it says in the words of a song......'' It's no secret that a friend is someone who lets you help''
Mar 18, 2008 6:30 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
breezee: Hi Elley

This is just what I think.....

You unconsciously put yourself in a position of superiority over the person you help or do a favour for. You may be the nicest, most humble, well-meaning human being on earth, but just the fact that you were able to help someone puts you in a superior position above that person.....

People have EGOS.
They don't like being in a position to need help.
And sometimes they don't forgive you for being in a position to help them.
Sooner or later, they will find a reason to hate you because they already resent you for helping....

Generalising here, of course.....
There is always that rarest of all human beings who knows how to value kindness above pride....
Like it says in the words of a song......'' It's no secret that a friend is someone who lets you help''


Breezee

What a superb explanation, I think you are bang on target. Thankyou for taking the trouble to explain so fluently and concisely that which I knew, but just couldn,t find the words to express.wine cheers handshake hug
Mar 18, 2008 7:31 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Elley: Do you agree ? Seems to me the people who have tried to hurt me the most have been the ones I,ve done the most for. Friend of mine used to say " treat em mean keep em keen" Didn,t like this as a philosophy,however.........


customers are the worstlaugh --- they just keep taking
Mar 18, 2008 7:32 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
CuspofMagic: customers are the worst --- they just keep taking


......the pisslaugh
Mar 18, 2008 7:33 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Elley: ......the piss


yeah that to
Mar 19, 2008 9:41 AM CST No favour goes unpunished
FlowerOfTheSnow
FlowerOfTheSnowFlowerOfTheSnowMalaga, Andalusia Spain23 Threads 2,212 Posts
breezee: Hi Elley

This is just what I think.....

You unconsciously put yourself in a position of superiority over the person you help or do a favour for. You may be the nicest, most humble, well-meaning human being on earth, but just the fact that you were able to help someone puts you in a superior position above that person.....

People have EGOS.
They don't like being in a position to need help.
And sometimes they don't forgive you for being in a position to help them.
Sooner or later, they will find a reason to hate you because they already resent you for helping....

Generalising here, of course.....
There is always that rarest of all human beings who knows how to value kindness above pride....
Like it says in the words of a song......'' It's no secret that a friend is someone who lets you help''





Great post Breeze!!! thumbs up

Elley may I add that if ever one catches oneself thinking or saying "look what they've done to me after ALL I have done for them" then may be ones generosity was not as generous as one would like to think (of oneself) but was "loaded" from the start because of the expectations of "gratefulness" from the person who was "helped" ...

So may be one needs to only "help" and be generous when there are truly no expectations for one self ...

One more point ... Very often when we "offer gifts" (of any kind) to others we are so focused on receiving "gifts" back from that very same person that we miss the great gifts put on our path by the Universe or given to us by others they be known persons or strangers. In other words the gifts we offer are not always (in fact seldom) returned to us by those we have offered "gifts" to ... This is a beautiful thing to be aware of as it opens ones perceptions and enjoyment to/of the kindness of others and brings with it some peace of mind which in turn improves the quality of ones life ... teddybear
Mar 19, 2008 11:12 AM CST No favour goes unpunished
breezee
breezeebreezeeathens, Attica Greece20 Threads 1,136 Posts
I've never been married or had kids or anyone I was ever required to do anything for and so, like alot of people in my situation, I am often compelled to do volunteer work / offer help to people who may need it....... for me personally, it's an issue of self-esteem...... helps justify the space I take up on this earth.

Volunteer work especially, has been a HUGE eye-opener. I never ever expected any thanks, let alone anything in return but I was shocked / disgusted with the vicious way the very people you were trying to help would try to bring you down.

In the beginning I would think, WTF!! What is WRONG with these people???

Then slowly I began to put myself in their shoes and realised how humiliating and often infuriating it must be for people to find themselves in need. It is mostly luck / fate what situations we all find ourselves in, anyway, imo......
People must get pissed with the unfairness often connected to needing help.

And Flower, you're right.
I myself find I get lots from people but very seldom from the same people I've helped.

Easier just to do whatever we can for each other when we can....

And Elley, trust me. I DOOOOO understand........ hug
Mar 19, 2008 2:12 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
Elley: Do you agree ? Seems to me the people who have tried to hurt me the most have been the ones I,ve done the most for. Friend of mine used to say " treat em mean keep em keen" Didn,t like this as a philosophy,however.........
Those that are closest to you will hurt you the most..............that's a fact of life......move on Elley, or grow up.......all your threads are so similiar
Mar 19, 2008 4:45 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
FlowerOfTheSnow
FlowerOfTheSnowFlowerOfTheSnowMalaga, Andalusia Spain23 Threads 2,212 Posts
Jacko50: Those that are closest to you will hurt you the most..............that's a fact of life......move on Elley, or grow up.......all your threads are so similiar



wave Hey Jacko!!!!
In response to your comment about those closest WILL hurt you the most ... my reply is they have the ability to do so but should may be not be turned into a generalisation ...

I think that what you suggest for Elley to do is what he is working on achieving ... It takes a lot of going over stuff that has hurt profoundly to be able to let go ... doing it in a public forum means sharing and "admitting/facing up" which helps in the process of letting go ...

teddybear
Mar 20, 2008 3:48 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
Jacko50: Those that are closest to you will hurt you the most..............that's a fact of life......move on Elley, or grow up.......all your threads are so similiar
wave
Mar 20, 2008 4:24 PM CST No favour goes unpunished
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
Jan1305: You 'bare' anything you like here Elley.


Damn spellchequer mis-corrected me Jan.laugh laugh
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