Conditioning-Help or Hinderance? (45)
BnaturAl: wake up
a conditioned response is a repetitive behavior? yes? you think? why wait for someone else to change thier behavior or conditioned responses when we can instead?
who are you then?
a conditioned response is a repetitive behavior? yes? you think? why wait for someone else to change thier behavior or conditioned responses when we can instead?
who are you then?
Isn't that part of who we are?
Why change for someone else's benefit?
I gotta go work on my arc. Be back in a bit. (actually kids are getting off the bus)
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j_goose71: Isn't that part of who we are?
Why change for someone else's benefit?
Why change for someone else's benefit?
youre the only one who can change you, so any change is for your and only your benefit
if someone else derives a benefit after you change you, all the better don't ya not think?
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BnaturAl: As humans we tend to accept and act or react based on the conditoning of our society, our environment and our self interests.
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
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... yay!!! ur back!!! missed u B.. 
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BnaturAl: As humans we tend to accept and act or react based on the conditoning of our society, our environment and our self interests.
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
We are only victims if we choose to be. We have the ability to create our own path if we choose to do so. Many people get caught up in everything that's going on around them and their "conditioning" tells them that there's nothing they can do about it.
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
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BnaturAl: As humans we tend to accept and act or react based on the conditoning of our society, our environment and our self interests.
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
... good thread.. I think it is important to take risks..especially emotional ones... it is why I am so fond of the phrase 'it is better to have loved and lost that to never have loved at all' while that saying is clearly limited to relationships.. I think the premise is a valid one... we have alot more to gain from taking risks than not taking risks at all.. because even if things don't turn out the way you would have liked, at least you can learn something... staying stagnant and never taking risks stunts your growth...
Obviously this natural fear has its place.. i.e. getting burnt will prevent you from sticking ur hand in the fire again.. but emotionally it should not work that way... being hurt emotionally is unlikely to kill you.... and the rewards which can be gained from putting ur heart out there can be great...JMO
My Bro said to me once.. and it kinda stuck with me.. when it comes to love.. its always worth the risk...
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Serenity1971: We are only victims if we choose to be. We have the ability to create our own path if we choose to do so. Many people get caught up in everything that's going on around them and their "conditioning" tells them that there's nothing they can do about it.
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
you did indeed.
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Aries01: ... ... yay!!! ur back!!! missed u B..
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Aries01: ... good thread..
I think it is important to take risks..especially emotional ones... it is why I am so fond of the phrase 'it is better to have loved and lost that to never have loved at all' while that saying is clearly limited to relationships.. I think the premise is a valid one... we have alot more to gain from taking risks than not taking risks at all.. because even if things don't turn out the way you would have liked, at least you can learn something... staying stagnant and never taking risks stunts your growth...
Obviously this natural fear has its place.. i.e. getting burnt will prevent you from sticking ur hand in the fire again.. but emotionally it should not work that way... being hurt emotionally is unlikely to kill you.... and the rewards which can be gained from putting ur heart out there can be great...JMO
My Bro said to me once.. and it kinda stuck with me.. when it comes to love.. its always worth the risk...
I think it is important to take risks..especially emotional ones... it is why I am so fond of the phrase 'it is better to have loved and lost that to never have loved at all' while that saying is clearly limited to relationships.. I think the premise is a valid one... we have alot more to gain from taking risks than not taking risks at all.. because even if things don't turn out the way you would have liked, at least you can learn something... staying stagnant and never taking risks stunts your growth...
Obviously this natural fear has its place.. i.e. getting burnt will prevent you from sticking ur hand in the fire again.. but emotionally it should not work that way... being hurt emotionally is unlikely to kill you.... and the rewards which can be gained from putting ur heart out there can be great...JMO
My Bro said to me once.. and it kinda stuck with me.. when it comes to love.. its always worth the risk...
we tell ourselves a lot of things that stop us from experiencing ourselves and others. Even a lot of our questioning process is negative based. We say things like "why not" or "why dont you", ..that requests a negative affirmation, instead of asking questions that tickle the positive affirmations. I get what you're saying about emotion too orla ... we humans will keep repeating the same old dumb mistakes and hurt ourselves over and over without ever questioning why we do it. And worse we'll choose to blame others when we chose to participate. The real secret, I think, is to experience, feel, and observe, not judge an event or the people involved in the dance ... though judging is hard to get away from since every choice is some sort of judgement call.
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BnaturAl: hey oirish!
Missed ya B.. genuinely
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Serenity1971: We are only victims if we choose to be. We have the ability to create our own path if we choose to do so. Many people get caught up in everything that's going on around them and their "conditioning" tells them that there's nothing they can do about it.
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
Get out of these threads, and get into my life!
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Aries01: Missed ya B.. genuinely
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diogenes: Get out of these threads, and get into my life!
Sweetheart, I could never move back to Texas. The humidity there kills me
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Serenity1971: Sweetheart, I could never move back to Texas. The humidity there kills me
Whatever, you can save up and buy a dehumidifier. It will be great.
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diogenes: Whatever, you can save up and buy a dehumidifier. It will be great.
el cheapo ... buy one for her
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Serenity1971: We are only victims if we choose to be. We have the ability to create our own path if we choose to do so. Many people get caught up in everything that's going on around them and their "conditioning" tells them that there's nothing they can do about it.
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
Our minds are powerful weapons, and the collective thoughts end up creating the "reality". If we change our thought process and not feed the negative tapes in our heads, then we create a collective thought which projects and becomes a "reality" that we like.
I'm not sure if I made sense, but I think I made the point
made sense to me - well said
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Serenity1971: Sweetheart, I could never move back to Texas. The humidity there kills me
how about florida? canada? I can afford heaters, air-conditioning, humidifyers and chocolate covered gummy bears...
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BnaturAl: el cheapo ... buy one for her
That would do one of two things.
1. It might suggest to her that she is not capable for doing for herself.
2. I might suggest to her that I am insecure, and thinks buying things impresses women who wouldn't like me otherwise.
If she buys the dehumidifier, then we can live happily ever after, or if I end up missing, check the bottom of all the nearby lakes.
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Well I have the ultimate idea...If any of you want me that badly, then think about moving to Arizona. Granted it gets pretty hot here in the summer time, but there's no humidity. It's absolutely beautiful out here especially when you go up to Sedona and Oak Creek.
Oh and no snow
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Serenity1971: Well I have the ultimate idea...
If any of you want me that badly, then think about moving to Arizona. Granted it gets pretty hot here in the summer time, but there's no humidity. It's absolutely beautiful out here especially when you go up to Sedona and Oak Creek. Oh and no snow
If any of you want me that badly, then think about moving to Arizona. Granted it gets pretty hot here in the summer time, but there's no humidity. It's absolutely beautiful out here especially when you go up to Sedona and Oak Creek. Oh and no snow
Yeah, that's the catch...I'm teathered to my daughter. Oh well...accept the things you cannot change.
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1st part ....yes, that would change how they treated me, But I am who I am, so i don't think mybehavior has changed.
2nd part ...I don't think it's a behavior thing. I think it's more of a response. A conditioned response. Like a beat dog. Hit him enough with a stick, and every time he sees that stick, his tail will go between his legs and turn on his defense mechs.
Feed him a treat everytime he sits on command, and he'll do it everytime assuming he's going to get the treat if he does.
3rd verse same as the first ....."I'm henry the eighth I am ......"Yeah, I'm tired....
wake up
a conditioned response is a repetitive behavior? yes? you think? why wait for someone else to change thier behavior or conditioned responses when we can instead?
who are you then?