Conditioning-Help or Hinderance? (45)
I think reacting the same way out of a sort of Pavlovian conditioning would be a hindrance. However, if past experience is used as a reference and a component of judgement, it is indeed useful.
Nice to see you around again Al.
Nice to see you around again Al.
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rwantin: I think reacting the same way out of a sort of Pavlovian conditioning would be a hindrance. However, if past experience is used as a reference and a component of judgement, it is indeed useful.
Nice to see you around again Al.
Nice to see you around again Al.
thanks
robert.Agreed! make memories, use memories, but don't allow them to use you.
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It all depends how free we are with our perception of emotional events. Evolution has to be a teacher. But being a human beings and the only species on Planet that have an emotional intelligence, (which is a trigger for making a choice or a decision) makes us sometimes vulnerable to learn and to accept and let it go.
The choices are ours ... to be and feel happy .... or to stay in suspicious state and feel miserable.
Great thread Al ... Hope everything is all right in your World
The choices are ours ... to be and feel happy .... or to stay in suspicious state and feel miserable.
Great thread Al ... Hope everything is all right in your World
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BnaturAl: As humans we tend to accept and act or react based on the conditoning of our society, our environment and our self interests.
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
flippin ec Al! - I just spent an hour on my reply to Riya's thread - I honestly hadnt seen this one of yours 
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Konigsberg: It all depends how free we are with our perception of emotional events. Evolution has to be a teacher. But being a human beings and the only species on Planet that have an emotional intelligence, (which is a trigger for making a choice or a decision) makes us sometimes vulnerable to learn and to accept and let it go.
The choices are ours ... to be and feel happy .... or to stay in suspicious state and feel miserable.
Great thread Al ... Hope everything is all right in your World
The choices are ours ... to be and feel happy .... or to stay in suspicious state and feel miserable.
Great thread Al ... Hope everything is all right in your World
Thanks, all is well, even though my credit card has been processed so many times in the last week or so that it is now more like credit film.. Keep a smile konig!!------ This thread is Archived ------
BnaturAl: Thanks, all is well, even though my credit card has been processed so many times in the last week or so that it is now more like credit film.. Keep a smile konig!!
My soul is always smiling ... nowadays can't get that silly grin off my face cause Sun is Shining ... Spring is here. Time for new beginnings and miracles.
lol try not to let it to become a soap opera, Al. Like Coronation Street
Be careful out there
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BnaturAl: Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?
I have learned through experiences that it hinders our growth when we can not get past our past.
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
Unfortunately, we just don't seem to "get it" by others telling us. We have to live and learn through our own experiences and efforts.
This is a process, learning to do this and not react as previously conditioned. For myself, the Holy Spirit helped me to learn to do this.
He helped and encouraged me to tear down the wall I had built. He said I would never experience love in its fullness if I had a wall, for the wall took up the space where the love would live.
Now, through many years of taking out the trash (stinkin thinkin, negative self-talk, lies) a place has been created within me where love lives in all of its fullness. This is HealthyLiving!
Great to see you around again Al... I have missed you! When you comming up for dinner?
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BnaturAl: thanks robert.
Agreed! make memories, use memories, but don't allow them to use you.
Agreed! make memories, use memories, but don't allow them to use you.
Couldn't have said it better!
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HealthyLiving: I have learned through experiences that it hinders our growth when we can not get past our past.
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
Unfortunately, we just don't seem to "get it" by others telling us. We have to live and learn through our own experiences and efforts.
This is a process, learning to do this and not react as previously conditioned. For myself, the Holy Spirit helped me to learn to do this.
He helped and encouraged me to tear down the wall I had built. He said I would never experience love in its fullness if I had a wall, for the wall took up the space where the love would live.
Now, through many years of taking out the trash (stinkin thinkin, negative self-talk, lies) a place has been created within me where love lives in all of its fullness. This is HealthyLiving! Great to see you around again Al... I have missed you! When you comming up for dinner?
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
Unfortunately, we just don't seem to "get it" by others telling us. We have to live and learn through our own experiences and efforts.
This is a process, learning to do this and not react as previously conditioned. For myself, the Holy Spirit helped me to learn to do this.
He helped and encouraged me to tear down the wall I had built. He said I would never experience love in its fullness if I had a wall, for the wall took up the space where the love would live.
Now, through many years of taking out the trash (stinkin thinkin, negative self-talk, lies) a place has been created within me where love lives in all of its fullness. This is HealthyLiving! Great to see you around again Al... I have missed you! When you comming up for dinner?
uh oh - I better warn the herons to stay clear of you two again
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I find conditioner really helps my hair stay shiny and healthy.....if I don't use it I get the fly aways!!!!!!!!!
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HealthyLiving: I have learned through experiences that it hinders our growth when we can not get past our past.
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
Unfortunately, we just don't seem to "get it" by others telling us. We have to live and learn through our own experiences and efforts.
This is a process, learning to do this and not react as previously conditioned. For myself, the Holy Spirit helped me to learn to do this.
He helped and encouraged me to tear down the wall I had built. He said I would never experience love in its fullness if I had a wall, for the wall took up the space where the love would live.
Now, through many years of taking out the trash (stinkin thinkin, negative self-talk, lies) a place has been created within me where love lives in all of its fullness. This is HealthyLiving! Great to see you around again Al... I have missed you! When you comming up for dinner?
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
Unfortunately, we just don't seem to "get it" by others telling us. We have to live and learn through our own experiences and efforts.
This is a process, learning to do this and not react as previously conditioned. For myself, the Holy Spirit helped me to learn to do this.
He helped and encouraged me to tear down the wall I had built. He said I would never experience love in its fullness if I had a wall, for the wall took up the space where the love would live.
Now, through many years of taking out the trash (stinkin thinkin, negative self-talk, lies) a place has been created within me where love lives in all of its fullness. This is HealthyLiving! Great to see you around again Al... I have missed you! When you comming up for dinner?
Life doesn't make us, we make life. A little self responsibility changes your perception.... even if we get stranded in Kentucky for a week.
Hurt is there for a reason but as someone once said, "all that is not love, is a call for love"
Had I known I'd be stranded in Kentucky, I'd have made plans for dinner with you instead, even as beautiful as Kentucky is.
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trish123: uh oh - I better warn the herons to stay clear of you two again
no need to warn them Trish! we've gotten past the heron thing, and decided on colorful foods instead. veggies and fruits!
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HealthyLiving: I have learned through experiences that it hinders our growth when we can not get past our past.
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
Overcomming hurts is very hard to do, but it can be done by re-conditioning the mind. We must realize that every circumstance will have it's own outcome. A different one, as long as we do not manipulate the situation to form the same kind of reaction we have had in the past.
If we react in a way because of past hurts, we then reinact our negative behavior producing the same negative results. Most people do not want to participate in the distructiveness of this kind of relationship, so the relationship will end.
Maturity is contributed to one who has learned to overcome this type of behavior and has developed a healthy way of thinking which does not take a destructive course.
I don't see it as necessisarily negative. I see it as protecting what I have and my idea of what I want.
If I walk down the same path as I have in the past, and I see someting that reminds me of a major pain in my life, I'm sure as hell going to make a turn and avoid it. (eg. someone lying to me the way an ex did. Someone afraid of a commitment.) But that doesn't pertain just to ralationships. Although it usually does.
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OH....WB AL.
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i would have to say both or either?
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j_goose71: I don't see it as necessisarily negative. I see it as protecting what I have and my idea of what I want.
If I walk down the same path as I have in the past, and I see someting that reminds me of a major pain in my life, I'm sure as hell going to make a turn and avoid it. (eg. someone lying to me the way an ex did. Someone afraid of a commitment.) But that doesn't pertain just to ralationships. Although it usually does.
If I walk down the same path as I have in the past, and I see someting that reminds me of a major pain in my life, I'm sure as hell going to make a turn and avoid it. (eg. someone lying to me the way an ex did. Someone afraid of a commitment.) But that doesn't pertain just to ralationships. Although it usually does.
If you/we behaved differently from our past with them, would that change how 'they' treated you? just a question. .. and of course you would have to behave dif consistently but would that affect how others were with you or would they not stay the same?
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j_goose71: OH....WB AL.
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mindfful: i would have to say both or either?
you dont 'have' to say...
do you need a saddle to ride that fence?
is committing a conditioning?
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BnaturAl: If you/we behaved differently from our past with them, would that change how 'they' treated you? just a question. .. and of course you would have to behave dif consistently but would that affect how others were with you or would they not stay the same?
Did you just wake up?
1st part....yes, that would change how they treated me, But I am who I am, so i don't think mybehavior has changed.
2nd part...I don't think it's a behavior thing. I think it's more of a response. A conditioned response. Like a beat dog. Hit him enough with a stick, and every time he sees that stick, his tail will go between his legs and turn on his defense mechs.
Feed him a treat everytime he sits on command, and he'll do it everytime assuming he's going to get the treat if he does.
3rd verse same as the first....."I'm henry the eighth I am ......"
Yeah, I'm tired....
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Just as our bodies respond to stimulii or sensations, without questioning the behavior, our minds tend to remember past events and build reactive responses from them without questioning why.
As an example, say someone hurt us in the past and in the future when we are presented some event of similar circumstance we react to avoid that hurt long before it can hurt us. In efftect we prejudge the new person based on our past hurts.
The odd thing is that we also choose to feel hurt in the first place.
Does this evolving conditioning help us or hinder our growth? Do we need to allow things to happen without judgeing or do we need to assess and continue reacting the same old ways we have used in the past?