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Apr 7, 2008 5:24 PM CST God exists???
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
BeautifulEri: Hey gorgeous!!!We've all missed auntie Claire....


I've been busy..

waxing shaving plucking.. tanning.. shopping! yada yada yada ... Girl stuff haha

Five more days.. and I get to see Mr McMaybe (for 12 days! Whoop!)


teddybear
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Apr 7, 2008 5:25 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
slim1977: very good post. I have in my life questioned the whole pain and suffering thing. in particuler my case I use to always ask why me? now I dont mean to offend anyone with this

read the beginning of the book of JOB. it is a way of testing you and your resolve and comitment. GOD the higher power or what ever you decide to call it hoes not give anyone more than they can handle in life it is just how they decide to take it it will eather make you a strongr better person or beak you. its your choice.


Exactly...when someone says: why me? I say: why not?


And we can handle so many things and so much...more than we think...

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Apr 7, 2008 5:25 PM CST God exists???
patrickthomas
patrickthomaspatrickthomasMullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 4 Polls 1,911 Posts
BeautifulEri: Yes, he does....

Nice seeing a pic of you...


Thank you,

Who created the Devil or Evil in the World?
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Apr 7, 2008 5:26 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
Claayer: I've been busy..

waxing shaving plucking.. tanning.. shopping! yada yada yada ... Girl stuff haha

Five more days.. and I get to see Mr McMaybe (for 12 days! Whoop! )


Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy....

yay

Good, then keep doing all your yada yada things....hahhahaha.....

MrMcMaybe is sooooooooooooooooo luckyyyyyyyyyyyy....

kiss
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Apr 7, 2008 5:28 PM CST God exists???
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
patrickthomas: So who created this evil?


Ironically God.. as the story goes, 'the devil' is in fact a fallen angel, apparently he was a high ranking angel who enjoyed a lot of power and it went to his head.. I don't know if this is literal or symbolic or what but thats the basis story I think.. not 100% on this though

cheers
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Apr 7, 2008 5:29 PM CST God exists???
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
BeautifulEri: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy....



Good, then keep doing all your yada yada things....hahhahaha.....

MrMcMaybe is sooooooooooooooooo luckyyyyyyyyyyyy....


Pffffft! I don't know about that! giggle

I think perhaps he is suffering in silence. Poor chap.

laugh
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Apr 7, 2008 5:29 PM CST God exists???
patrickthomas
patrickthomaspatrickthomasMullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 4 Polls 1,911 Posts
Aries01: Ironically God.. as the story goes, 'the devil' is in fact a fallen angel, apparently he was a high ranking angel who enjoyed a lot of power and it went to his head.. I don't know if this is literal or symbolic or what but thats the basis story I think.. not 100% on this though


So God is capable of doing bad?
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Apr 7, 2008 5:29 PM CST God exists???
slim1977
slim1977slim1977my heart will always be in, Tennessee USA16 Threads 943 Posts
BeautifulEri: Exactly...when someone says: why me? I say: why not?And we can handle so many things and so much...more than we think...



I am a living testament to what you can handle and make it through in life and be the better person from but then I thik everyone that overcomes the odds and percivers is and I have the greatest respect for them


btw I cant spell grin
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Apr 7, 2008 5:30 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
Aries01: Ironically God.. as the story goes, 'the devil' is in fact a fallen angel, apparently he was a high ranking angel who enjoyed a lot of power and it went to his head.. I don't know if this is literal or symbolic or what but thats the basis story I think.. not 100% on this though


True story...as I know it...its lile whenever good people loose track of reality....we all want power...we all wanna be the BOSS....



handshake
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Apr 7, 2008 5:31 PM CST God exists???
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Claayer: I've been busy..

waxing shaving plucking.. tanning.. shopping! yada yada yada ... Girl stuff haha

Five more days.. and I get to see Mr McMaybe (for 12 days! Whoop! )


Don't forget to clip those toe nails. scold

I'm very excited for you, Claire Wairee. hug
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Apr 7, 2008 5:32 PM CST God exists???
slim1977
slim1977slim1977my heart will always be in, Tennessee USA16 Threads 943 Posts
Aries01: Ironically God.. as the story goes, 'the devil' is in fact a fallen angel, apparently he was a high ranking angel who enjoyed a lot of power and it went to his head.. I don't know if this is literal or symbolic or what but thats the basis story I think.. not 100% on this though



it would seem someone has done thier reserch.
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Apr 7, 2008 5:32 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
slim1977: I am a living testament to what you can handle and make it through in life and be the better person from but then I thik everyone that overcomes the odds and percivers is and I have the greatest respect for them btw I cant spell


Hahaha...don't worry, I could totally understand you....

I also respect people that overcome serious matters....

thumbs up

hug
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Apr 7, 2008 5:34 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
Claayer: Pffffft! I don't know about that!

I think perhaps he is suffering in silence . Poor chap.



Don't think so dear...most probably thinking of the time ahead.....

Best of luck...not that you need it anyway...



peace
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Apr 7, 2008 5:35 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
patrickthomas: So God is capable of doing bad?


Who made the choice, god or the angel?

Free will hun, we're all capable of bad...not him....

angel
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Apr 7, 2008 5:35 PM CST God exists???
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
patrickthomas: So God is capable of doing bad?


Well.. if he exists.. WHO allows rapes and murders? Starving children?.. Who allows Earth quakes and Tsunamis .. Hurricanes etc.. to wipe out thousands of people? Who allows people to suffer in the MOST unbelievable pain???

Personally.. IFFFFFFFFFF he exists.. I don't like him very much. thumbs down thumbs down thumbs down (and you can tell him I said that!) devil
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Apr 7, 2008 5:36 PM CST God exists???
slim1977
slim1977slim1977my heart will always be in, Tennessee USA16 Threads 943 Posts
BeautifulEri: True story...as I know it...its lile whenever good people loose track of reality....we all want power...we all wanna be the BOSS ....


not me I just like to do my own thing in life never wanted power or money. I know everyone says that but I mean it. it corupts you and I wont have that.
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Apr 7, 2008 5:38 PM CST God exists???
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
patrickthomas: So God is capable of doing bad?


History will certainly show that he is capable of wrath... yes... but then even the best most loving parent is capable of discipline, and this discipline if exercised in context can in fact be a good thing, as the 'lesson' to be learned might justify the seemingly harsh measure.. it is difficult to think in these terms nowadays, and the analogy isn't perfect, because discipline is practically frowned upon.. certainly corporal punishment, but the bible has to be read, and Gods actions considered in the context of the time..

Anyhow kinda know where you are going with this Patrick.. its cool I know you are athiest.. I can never convince you to be otherwise, as you will never convince me to abandon my faith..

The way I see it.. ok.. worst case senario... I turn out to be wrong (which because of my faith I doubt it grin).. what has been the cost of my faith... internal peace of mind.. and impulse to try and be a better person, and do unto others etc (to the best of my ability).. not really a large price to pay in my book..

On the other hand I could still do all these things and fall short of what is required of me by God by not accepting him (if he does turn out to be real and the bible is correct).. what COULD be the potential cost of that?.. I really don't know but I would just prefer to follow my heart and instincts and go with what I believe is the thruth..

JMHO

cheers
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Apr 7, 2008 5:39 PM CST God exists???
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
Aries01: History will certainly show that he is capable of wrath... yes... but then even the best most loving parent is capable of discipline, and this discipline if exercised in context can in fact be a good thing, as the 'lesson' to be learned might justify the seemingly harsh measure.. it is difficult to think in these terms nowadays, and the analogy isn't perfect, because discipline is practically frowned upon.. certainly corporal punishment, but the bible has to be read, and Gods actions considered in the context of the time..

Anyhow kinda know where you are going with this Patrick.. its cool I know you are athiest.. I can never convince you to be otherwise, as you will never convince me to abandon my faith..

The way I see it.. ok.. worst case senario... I turn out to be wrong (which because of my faith I doubt it ).. what has been the cost of my faith... internal peace of mind.. and impulse to try and be a better person, and do unto others etc (to the best of my ability).. not really a large price to pay in my book..

On the other hand I could still do all these things and fall short of what is required of me by God by not accepting him (if he does turn out to be real and the bible is correct).. what COULD be the potential cost of that?.. I really don't know but I would just prefer to follow my heart and instincts and go with what I believe is the thruth..

JMHO


But there is a BIG difference between 'Discipline' and wiping out half nation. I don't think that's a comparison.



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Apr 7, 2008 5:40 PM CST God exists???
patrickthomas
patrickthomaspatrickthomasMullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 4 Polls 1,911 Posts
Aries01: History will certainly show that he is capable of wrath... yes... but then even the best most loving parent is capable of discipline, and this discipline if exercised in context can in fact be a good thing, as the 'lesson' to be learned might justify the seemingly harsh measure.. it is difficult to think in these terms nowadays, and the analogy isn't perfect, because discipline is practically frowned upon.. certainly corporal punishment, but the bible has to be read, and Gods actions considered in the context of the time..

Anyhow kinda know where you are going with this Patrick.. its cool I know you are athiest.. I can never convince you to be otherwise, as you will never convince me to abandon my faith..

The way I see it.. ok.. worst case senario... I turn out to be wrong (which because of my faith I doubt it ).. what has been the cost of my faith... internal peace of mind.. and impulse to try and be a better person, and do unto others etc (to the best of my ability).. not really a large price to pay in my book..

On the other hand I could still do all these things and fall short of what is required of me by God by not accepting him (if he does turn out to be real and the bible is correct).. what COULD be the potential cost of that?.. I really don't know but I would just prefer to follow my heart and instincts and go with what I believe is the thruth..

JMHO


I am not trying to get you to abandon your faith, I am trying to understand it.
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Apr 7, 2008 5:40 PM CST God exists???
BeautifulEri
BeautifulEriBeautifulEriGuadalajara, Jalisco Mexico77 Threads 1 Polls 4,559 Posts
slim1977: not me I just like to do my own thing in life never wanted power or money. I know everyone says that but I mean it. it corupts you and I wont have that.


Good....

But you agree money is good, we can buy things, have fun, etc...and many people loose track of what really matters because of it, right?

dunno
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