Texas Children. (101)
forgot to mention...Supreme Court refused to hear the case!!
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shipoker55: Texas polygamist children must be returned to their parents. The state was wrong to remove them
Horray for the American way of innocent till proven guilty!!
Horray for the American way of innocent till proven guilty!!
Whaaaaat???
Is that the case???
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each case should be tried on an individual case. Not all at once. The children that were mistreated and abused should be removed. But not the ones that haven't been abused!
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shipoker55: each case should be tried on an individual case. Not all at once. The children that were mistreated and abused should be removed. But not the ones that haven't been abused!
I agree with that....but only to an extent....Is the state not sending them back to be abused???? AND should child protection not include being proactive rather than just reactive????....Is it right that the state has to sit and wait for the children to be harmed?????
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Hugz_n_Kissez: I agree with that....but only to an extent....Is the state not sending them back to be abused???? AND should child protection not include being proactive rather than just reactive????....Is it right that the state has to sit and wait for the children to be harmed?????
I can see where you are coming from...but with that thought process...the state would be in everyones home assuming guilt before proving it. It is good to be pro active...but restraints must be in place to keep the state from taking every ones children they think might, at some point, be abused!
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THERE IS NO PROOF THEY ARE ABUSED
'underage' marriage?
marriage age varies state to state
many american states have 14 and up w/parents permission
'underage' marriage?
marriage age varies state to state
many american states have 14 and up w/parents permission
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conversely many kids are returned prematurely and w/o enuf supervision after being rightfully removed from the home
to awful consequences
w/ financial constraints state and federal-less money is available for training-for employees for these agencies too many cases per
worker
its a mess.
to awful consequences
w/ financial constraints state and federal-less money is available for training-for employees for these agencies too many cases per
worker
its a mess.
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8 or 9?
nevermind
hey that rhymed
and so did that
yiiiikes
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if if and if
my understanding of the thread was that they were not extended equal rights under american constitutional law
i agreed and made a few other points
if there was such goings on theyll never know now-they didnt wait to get proof
if the govt starts makin moves based on anonymous phone reports w/ no investigation there will be a revolt
or at least much more secretive behavior
nothing was proven and there is religious freedom but if behaviors w/in that 'religion' break the law then yeah -prosecute
but theres no prosecution w/o investigation and certainly no conviction so what is accomplished?
thats why we have the laws and due process we have
and it was violated in this particular instance
8 yr old have not been mentioned that im aware of
and a mention isnt proof
the patriot act is bad enuf
if any govt agency is allowed to act w/ o due process or impugnity we are in big big trouble
my understanding of the thread was that they were not extended equal rights under american constitutional law
i agreed and made a few other points
if there was such goings on theyll never know now-they didnt wait to get proof
if the govt starts makin moves based on anonymous phone reports w/ no investigation there will be a revolt
or at least much more secretive behavior
nothing was proven and there is religious freedom but if behaviors w/in that 'religion' break the law then yeah -prosecute
but theres no prosecution w/o investigation and certainly no conviction so what is accomplished?
thats why we have the laws and due process we have
and it was violated in this particular instance
8 yr old have not been mentioned that im aware of
and a mention isnt proof
the patriot act is bad enuf
if any govt agency is allowed to act w/ o due process or impugnity we are in big big trouble
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ship is secretly jerry lee
sposedly he realllly loved her
sposedly he realllly loved her
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mindfful: ship is secretly jerry lee
sposedly he realllly loved her
sposedly he realllly loved her
They would be arrest in Britain
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mindfful: we may consider whatever we like
but the law is the law
as stated its legal in many states
doesnt mean i believe its right
but it is legal
but the law is the law
as stated its legal in many states
doesnt mean i believe its right
but it is legal
I'm sorry but if that's the case, I think you live in a pretty effed up country...
allowing children to marry at that age...
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PILIPALA: They would be arrest in Britain
And here...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: I agree also...It's just that in this instance their belief system says it's ok for childen to marry and have children....and they are gonna follow their beliefs...so that says to me...that's it's imminent that children are going to be made to marry and have kids....ithat's what I mean by being proactive....maybe it hasn't happened yet...to some kids....but it will if left in that situation...It's a shame that kids have to be harmed first before anything is done is all I'm saying....Here normally if one kid in the househod is being abused...all children will be removed because of the likelihood of harm to the other children and even in some instances babies that are born to mothers who have abused and had children taken in the past...will have newborns taken away at birth...they don't wait for each child to be harmed...they go with the liklihood!!!!!!!!!!
Then why do you as Americans put up with people marrying so young?.
I know each state is different but surely individual states can be pressurized?
Sorry i don't claim to know or understand how American politics work.
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oslojente: Just out of curiosity, you were how old?
Three days after I turned 17. This person and I still communicate on line and calleach other occasionally. She has nothing but good to say about me and I speak very highly of her.. Forty years later....we are still friends
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PILIPALA: Then why do you as Americans put up with people marrying so young?.
I know each state is different but surely individual states can be pressurized?Sorry i don't claim to know or understand how American politics work.
I know each state is different but surely individual states can be pressurized?Sorry i don't claim to know or understand how American politics work.
I'm in Canada darlin....
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shipoker55: Three days after I turned 17. This person and I still communicate on line and calleach other occasionally. She has nothing but good to say about me and I speak very highly of her.. Forty years later....we are still friends
Well, that's good, you're one of the decent ones...
not sure all are though...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: I'm in Canada darlin....
Sorry Hugz realized that as soon as i posted dam recall button didn't work
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