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Jun 30, 2008 1:21 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Okay. For you I'll step outside my he-man persona trish...

Not that a man 5'7" can claim to have the power.


You are out of the 'personna' thing to me - you are your true self which is A1 OK by me - and thanks for the hugs - maybe we knew each other in an earlier life thumbs up laugh hug
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Jun 30, 2008 1:24 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Heya B.

While you may prefer a stable, platonic solid universe, with all the laws functioning as they should, this is not how things are. At the quantum level, form is emptiness, and emptiness is form.

Matter and energy are an accretion of vibration from higher dimensions into lower ones. This idea is supported by the discoveries associated with M-theory...


dark matter! yay


M-theory... what does your "M" stand for? math, mother, master, or - m u r k y ..


its interesting stuff, I just think things are far more simply explained accepting an electrical universe. Even deja vue can be acounted for. The behavior of energy in a vaccum (like between our ears giggle)

seriously, how do you 'know' this is not how things are?beer
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Jun 30, 2008 1:26 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Jose13: Karma is not exactly destiny in the classic conception of ancient Indian manupscripts. It is however, as a sum of cirmscunstances something that touches present and future. Its action is an expression of what you have mentioned as connection of everything.

It is true what you say about the deja-vu. Almost everybody has felt it as least once, some people more than others... however it has to be said that these kind of phenomena do not only come associated to "good happenings" "soul-mates" but also people who have "the mission" to disrupt one`s life to the bottom. These are all the things that shape our lives (the karmatic forces, say, the action-reaction coming from recent past within our own lives or coming from long time ago, things occurred beyond our curreent existence) and acy according to laws beyond our pretentious capacity to understand.



Yes, there are lessons to be learned from all that befalls us and more times than not, we have no idea why we have to learn what our experiences seem to be teaching us - until that is, things begin to fall into place..........

theres no hurry laugh

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Jun 30, 2008 1:29 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
M-theory stands for Membrane Theory, which is what replaced String theory when the math for that fell apart. Strings don't work, but a membrane does.

And that's why everything cannot be electrical. The math doesn't add up...unless you use like 400 dimensions. (actually more like 28, but I tend to exaggerate...laugh)

With M-theory there are only 10, which also fits with the 10 worlds of buddhism.

I don't "know" anything, but then again, neither do you.

We're all poking our swords into the dark, hoping to hook enough meat to make a real analysis...
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Jun 30, 2008 1:32 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: M-theory stands for Membrane Theory, which is what replaced String theory when the math for that fell apart. Strings don't work, but a membrane does.

And that's why everything cannot be electrical. The math doesn't add up...unless you use like 400 dimensions. (actually more like 28, but I tend to exaggerate...)

With M-theory there are only 10, which also fits with the 10 worlds of buddhism.

I don't "know" anything, but then again, neither do you.

We're all poking our swords into the dark, hoping to hook enough meat to make a real analysis...


I think knowledge progresses and absolutes halt the progress dunno
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Jun 30, 2008 1:33 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: There's a part in "Holo" where he talks about synchronicities. Stuff that we can't deny are connected, but in some way that completely defies logic or reason. Very heady stuff, and I was just reading that part last night, which inspired this thread...


and a very interesting thread it is too thumbs up
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Jun 30, 2008 1:35 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
trish123: I think knowledge progresses and absolutes halt the progress


I posted this in my Epigram thread, but it bears directly on what you just said...

I. Who dares deify a conviction? Anyone and everyone. Only those who are comfortable with a lack of absolutes can avoid it. The worship of convictions is like a line in the sand: "Here is as far as I will tolerate a difference in what is perceived and what is real." When this idol is broken, by the full weight of what is, as likely it will break the mind of its adherent, and resultant madness ensue. Thus, the birth of a fanatic.
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Jun 30, 2008 1:40 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I posted this in my Epigram thread, but it bears directly on what you just said...

I. Who dares deify a conviction? Anyone and everyone. Only those who are comfortable with a lack of absolutes can avoid it. The worship of convictions is like a line in the sand: "Here is as far as I will tolerate a difference in what is perceived and what is real." When this idol is broken, by the full weight of what is, as likely it will break the mind of its adherent, and resultant madness ensue. Thus, the birth of a fanatic.


I love profundities laugh wave

ideas soon become stagnant if laws are imposed thumbs up
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Jun 30, 2008 1:41 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru24 Threads 440 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: M-theory stands for Membrane Theory, which is what replaced String theory when the math for that fell apart. Strings don't work, but a membrane does.

And that's why everything cannot be electrical. The math doesn't add up...unless you use like 400 dimensions. (actually more like 28, but I tend to exaggerate...)

With M-theory there are only 10, which also fits with the 10 worlds of buddhism.

I don't "know" anything, but then again, neither do you.

We're all poking our swords into the dark, hoping to hook enough meat to make a real analysis...


Branes and membranes are just mathematical attempts - the interested can read a few public interviews of LIsa Randall for example, in the web- to include gravity in the incomplete scheme of string theory- for this, you can check out Edward Witten in the web-

It has nothing to do with trying to put Buddhism or any other spiritual conception under mathematical framework. That is an old stupid attempt, almost a mania of comparing modern rationality with ancient knowledge -and even try to explain ancient knowledge as if it was a particular case obtained from the general equations- Even at the time of Niels Bohr and Werner Heisember, this kind of games were laid out, and they firmly believed in the possibility to understand everything with their models. Nowadays, when science has unveiled its nature a little bit more -at least interms of its anti-spiritual form and evilness- it would be good to remember that for the ultimate questions, science and rational thinking are only terrible burdens.
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Jun 30, 2008 1:43 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: M-theory stands for Membrane Theory, which is what replaced String theory when the math for that fell apart. Strings don't work, but a membrane does.

And that's why everything cannot be electrical. The math doesn't add up...unless you use like 400 dimensions. (actually more like 28, but I tend to exaggerate...)

With M-theory there are only 10, which also fits with the 10 worlds of buddhism.

I don't "know" anything, but then again, neither do you.

We're all poking our swords into the dark, hoping to hook enough meat to make a real analysis...


no wonder I feel through your open floor laugh

I did leave out Membrane didnt I ... hehe

everything can be electrical when you understand how it operates in a vaccum.

why are you/they adding dimensions? and karma, sheees what an illogical concept to use to reach the meat of analysis...uh oh


I have to find the guy (his name) who did an experiment using small chips on a grid pattern, (checkerboard like) using 5 simple rules to govern their life on the grid, and out of that came such complex patterns of life that it defies the rules of simplicity, yet the rules were indeed very simple.

buddha is my hero though, resistance is futile.
cool
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Jun 30, 2008 1:44 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru24 Threads 440 Posts
trish123: I love profundities

ideas soon become stagnant if laws are imposed


Typo:
Heisenberg
sorry
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Jun 30, 2008 1:47 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Jose13: It has nothing to do with trying to put Buddhism or any other spiritual conception under mathematical framework. That is an old stupid attempt, almost a mania of comparing modern rationality with ancient knowledge -and even try to explain ancient knowledge as if it was a particular case obtained from the general equations- Even at the time of Niels Bohr and Werner Heisember, this kind of games were laid out, and they firmly believed in the possibility to understand everything with their models. Nowadays, when science has unveiled its nature a little bit more -at least interms of its anti-spiritual form and evilness- it would be good to remember that for the ultimate questions, science and rational thinking are only terrible burdens.


That's your take on it. I respectfully disagree...as I said, I don't "know" anything, and I doubt you do either...you may think you do, but that's your burden, not mine.
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Jun 30, 2008 1:47 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Science and rational thinking are handy tools in the game of looking at things from all angles, it helps to know the actual parameters of these issues before beginning on what could otherwise prove to be an extremely burdonsome quest.......... dunno
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Jun 30, 2008 1:49 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Jose13: Typo:
Heisenberg
sorry


sorry - didnt undersatnd you there?
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Jun 30, 2008 1:53 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I posted this in my Epigram thread, but it bears directly on what you just said...

I. Who dares deify a conviction? Anyone and everyone. Only those who are comfortable with a lack of absolutes can avoid it. The worship of convictions is like a line in the sand: "Here is as far as I will tolerate a difference in what is perceived and what is real." When this idol is broken, by the full weight of what is, as likely it will break the mind of its adherent, and resultant madness ensue. Thus, the birth of a fanatic.


moping

I love boundary pushers, they're usually the first ones to fall into the abyss in the movies while chasing or running from someone or something in a dark cave ... giggle saves the rest of the group a whole lot of deadly embarrassment rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 30, 2008 1:53 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru24 Threads 440 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: That's your take on it. I respectfully disagree...as I said, I don't "know" anything, and I doubt you do either...you may think you do, but that's your burden, not mine.

It is actually my lack of burden not to be chained to a religious belief of the absolutes invented by scientific knowledge. People usually talk about science as if it was something making miracles all the time -including explaining Buddha or bloody Issa- Well, they judge by being awed with their marvelous computer or flying trip. It is laughable. It is good to have a tour inside those things, especially if you talk about mathematics of such theories (string theory falling apart? . Give me a break please.)
Science is governed by reality, and reality is something unknown to our little but pretentious knowledge.
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Jun 30, 2008 1:55 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru24 Threads 440 Posts
trish123: sorry - didnt undersatnd you there?

Made a mistake quoting myself.
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Jun 30, 2008 1:57 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Jose13: Made a mistake quoting myself.


is ok - thought you meant I was quoting Heisenberg - which would be pretty impossible unless he came to me in another existence - I have glimpsed him in passing though laugh
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Jun 30, 2008 1:59 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru24 Threads 440 Posts
trish123: is ok - thought you meant I was quoting Heisenberg - which would be pretty impossible unless he came to me in another existence - I have glimpsed him in passing though

Maybe... and this is an omen.
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Jun 30, 2008 2:01 PM CST Reincarnation and Soul-mates
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Jose13: Maybe... and this is an omen.


will get back to you on that when things start falling into place grin
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