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Jul 7, 2008 8:40 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
McCain two energy intiative......45 nuclear reactors and
Offhsore drilling..............................................................
...............................is estimated to create 700,000 jobs

Barak Obama's present No position on nuclear reactors
and offshore drilling........................................................
..............................................................................0 jobs
I take that back...maybe 1 job if he wins the presidency
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Jul 7, 2008 8:42 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: McCain two energy intiative......45 nuclear reactors and
Offhsore drilling..............................................................
...............................is estimated to create 700,000 jobs

Barak Obama's present No position on nuclear reactors
and offshore drilling........................................................
..............................................................................0 jobs
I take that back...maybe 1 job if he wins the presidency



And all his friends in charge of low-income housing
cheers
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Jul 7, 2008 8:50 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: And all his friends in charge of low-income housing
:community organizers :)
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Jul 8, 2008 5:20 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
another wind of change...this time from the north...
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Jul 8, 2008 5:24 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts


Some NObama info there...eye opening!
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Jul 8, 2008 5:25 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Thanks, that should probably be posted on the phoney Obama "Unity" thread laugh
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Jul 8, 2008 6:47 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: http://www.khow.com/pages/caplisreport.html

Some NObama info there...eye opening!



What a great link. I'm going to cut and paste and send it over to Dude's thread to get his day rolling properly... rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 8, 2008 6:49 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Indyfella: Thanks, that should probably be posted on the phoney Obama "Unity" thread


Hannity and Colmes last night. They were talking of Obama, being a man of headlines but with no story underneath them to go with them.
That he can go out a make the croud like the main message, but when it comes to the details of how to make the message occur.....not there.

They got a good point. How do you have a modern country with out
energy and energy production systems? Obama says.....let us study the problems and technologies more.....that is what we have been
doing for the last 20 years? Gov't has spent billions in research. The researders says this is what can be done.

Obama is saying....well we can research it some more.....it might change, you never know (right Dude?). In the mean time, more US dollars (at $4 per gallon) go to OPEC and the middle east. This being part of the Obama keep them our friend plan and not upset the world to much plan while I am President. I might have to fight a war if we do. Hate to inform you, Senator. But it goes with the Oval Office.
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Jul 8, 2008 6:54 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500: Hannity and Colmes last night. They were talking of Obama, being a man of headlines but with no story underneath them to go with them.
That he can go out a make the croud like the main message, but when it comes to the details of how to make the message occur.....not there.

They got a good point. How do you have a modern country with out
energy and energy production systems? Obama says.....let us study the problems and technologies more.....that is what we have been
doing for the last 20 years? Gov't has spent billions in research. The researders says this is what can be done.

Obama is saying....well we can research it some more.....it might change, you never know (right Dude?). In the mean time, more US dollars (at $4 per gallon) go to OPEC and the middle east. This being part of the Obama keep them our friend plan and not upset the world to much plan while I am President. I might have to fight a war if we do. Hate to inform you, Senator. But it goes with the Oval Office.
With a little bit bad luck there will be an Empty Community Organizing Suit in the White House come 20. Jan '09jaw drop shock hole
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Jul 8, 2008 8:35 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
I just heard that Obama wants to make government service mandatory for high school/college, etc...

Ttom? Anyone? Can you clarify????



Oh.. and the Communist Party of CT just endorsed him as their candidate.
Why is that, confused

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 8, 2008 9:05 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
WhatUwish4: I just heard that Obama wants to make government service mandatory for high school/college, etc...

Ttom? Anyone? Can you clarify????
Oh.. and the Communist Party of CT just endorsed him as their candidate.
Why is that,


I had not heard of the mandatory service for High School/College students but it fits.. Remember his graduation speech when he substituted for Ted Kennedy? He said don't go for the high paying job, but go for the job of service? like the peace corp etc?

A far left doctine is that youth should work for the state. Ala like the
China's Student's revolution of the late 60 and 70s. Mao had given them all these little red books with sayings and quotations of service to the state in them.

They would go around and anytime they saw something out of line with 'doctrine' they denounce it and site the little red book. They were turning in thier parents for reeducation.....and even placing them into
jail...all over this concept of social justice and service to the state.

Remind you of the young religious police in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries today? They do the same thing only using the Koran as the source.

With Obama's draw to the youth of the country.....he might have his youth Student revolution. As he swings to the center....he has to find ways to keep his far left base....suspect that is what this is about.
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Jul 8, 2008 9:07 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: I had not heard of the mandatory service for High School/College students but it fits.. Remember his graduation speech when he substituted for Ted Kennedy? He said don't go for the high paying job, but go for the job of service? like the peace corp etc?

A far left doctine is that youth should work for the state. Ala like the
China's Student's revolution of the late 60 and 70s. Mao had given them all these little red books with sayings and quotations of service to the state in them.

They would go around and anytime they saw something out of line with 'doctrine' they denounce it and site the little red book. They were turning in thier parents for reeducation.....and even placing them into
jail...all over this concept of social justice and service to the state.

Remind you of the young religious police in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries today? They do the same thing only using the Koran as the source.

With Obama's draw to the youth of the country.....he might have his youth Student revolution. As he swings to the center....he has to find ways to keep his far left base....suspect that is what this is about.

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Do you have any idea where to find some of this information? I think kids and parents should know specifically what he means by "Mandatory Government Service." Would be nice to see all of his proposed policies in print somewhere...

Any clue?
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Jul 8, 2008 9:25 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
WhatUwish4: ====================================================================
Do you have any idea where to find some of this information? I think kids and parents should know specifically what he means by "Mandatory Government Service." Would be nice to see all of his proposed policies in print somewhere...

Any clue?


To get it straight from the 'horses mouth'. Check his website and his recent media releases.
Likely what he saying......I would have youth do a mandatory 2-3 year of government serivce....to the peace corp, ccc, national forestry service etc.......I wonder how many Senator
and Congress's sons and daughters are in line for planting trees for 3 years after college?

I bet this flies in Congress about as well and lame duck in pack of wolves.
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Jul 8, 2008 9:30 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
WhatUwish4: ====================================================================
Do you have any idea where to find some of this information? I think kids and parents should know specifically what he means by "Mandatory Government Service." Would be nice to see all of his proposed policies in print somewhere...

Any clue?


If you mean info on the China's Student Revolution and the Saudi Religious Police.

Do words searchs under:

"Mao's Student Revolution" "China's Student Revolution of the 1970s"

And

"Suadi Arabia's Religious Police" "Islamic Religous Police"


You should get solid hits on them.
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Jul 8, 2008 2:21 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
What I find so annoying about the media is that we are not HEARING about this from anyone. Can you imagine the uproar if GWB had suggested this.

People are being deiliberately manipulated about this man and who he really is, and that is so dangerous in our current day and time. I mean, he's no ordinary democrat... he's a fr**king comunist!!! I never thought I would utter these words, but I would almost prefer Hillary after this!
(did I just say that???)
doh
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Jul 8, 2008 3:34 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: What I find so annoying about the media is that we are not HEARING about this from anyone. Can you imagine the uproar if GWB had suggested this.

People are being deiliberately manipulated about this man and who he really is, and that is so dangerous in our current day and time. I mean, he's no ordinary democrat... he's a fr**king comunist!!! I never thought I would utter these words, but I would almost prefer Hillary after this!
(did I just say that???)



I think you did comfort laugh
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Jul 8, 2008 3:51 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Indyfella: I think you did



Geeze! doh What does that tell ya?
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Jul 8, 2008 4:26 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
WhatUwish4: Geeze! What does that tell ya?


Guys honestly, if McCain had a Constitutional attroney on his staff.......he can find so many positions that Barak is getting
ready to disregard, avoid, undermine,dance around, and just
break.......that Jan 21st (after the oath).....he could begin impeachment proceeding on him.
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Jul 8, 2008 4:32 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
MORE ACORN Community organizing!
______________________


How do you register 60,000 new voters? One at a time.

At the Department of Motor Vehicles office on East Sahara Avenue last week, Ana Ramos was following Mike Wilson into the parking lot. The 24-year-old Wilson admitted he wasn't registered to vote, but didn't stop walking by Ramos and her clipboard.

Walking alongside him, Ramos bugged Wilson, told him it was easy to fill out the form, that this year's election was going to be important and it was the right thing to do. It would take only a minute, she said.

For Ramos, 22, a canvasser for the social advocacy group ACORN, it was another small victory. Signing up voters, not the $8 per hour she earns, is what makes it worth her while to spend the day in 100-plus-degree heat chasing people down, she says.

"It's time for a change," the Las Vegas audio engineer said after filling out the form. "I've been avoiding it for a long time. I might as well try and make a difference."



But as a day spent with canvassers showed, the new voters aren't lining up at the county building to register themselves. Rather, they're being aggressively recruited.

"We approach them. We bring the issue to them," said Chris Edwards, ACORN's Nevada field director. "We don't wait for them to come to us."

ACORN, which stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, claims to have collected 60,000 new voter registrations in Clark County since February. The group, which works to promote the interests of lower-income people, is aiming for 100,000 by Labor Day.

Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said he has never seen such a deluge. "The biggest year we ever had was 2004. That year, we processed almost 300,000 (voter) applications -- 291,000, to be exact. We're running double that rate right now."

As of this point in 2004, the Clark County Election Department had received 81,000 applications; this year, it's 161,000, he said.

According to the Census, nationally about two-thirds of those eligible to vote -- U.S. citizens who are over 18 and have not had their voting rights revoked for a criminal conviction -- are registered; in Nevada, it's just 56 percent.

ACORN's canvassers, drawn from the ranks of the lower income themselves, work outside welfare offices, free clinics and downmarket stores.

ACORN's tactics are controversial.

The group has drawn accusations of voter fraud and criminal investigations in several states. Last year, authorities in Washington state brought felony charges against ACORN workers for filing false voter registrations.

Some ACORN workers pleaded guilty and went to jail, while the organization paid $25,000 and agreed to have its registration efforts monitored in a settlement with Washington state authorities.

Lomax said while he supports the goal of getting more people registered to vote, he sees rampant fraud in the 2,000 to 3,000 registrations ACORN turns in every week.

Lomax recommends voters check the Election Department's Web site at depts/election/ or call 455-VOTE (8683), to make sure their registration is in order and avoid problems when they go to vote.

Edwards, a former union organizer, dismissed the allegations of fraud as the politically motivated accusations of elites who feel threatened by the prospect of the proletariat storming the polls.

Edwards and the political organizers who work under him hold orientation sessions every afternoon at ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters, a threadbare suite in a threadbare building in the Commercial Center complex on Sahara east of the Strip.

On a recent afternoon, the room on Sahara held about 20 people, a down-and-out looking group drawn to the spot by fliers promising hourly work they could start right away. "WE GOT JOBS!!" the fliers blared.

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(will provide source, I forgot it ) frustrated frustrated
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Jul 8, 2008 6:53 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
The US and Check Republic just signed a interceptor agreement. For
radar sites.

Russia is saying that it will respond with a military operation on them.

Things are getting interesting. And more complex.

With China, France, Germany, UK, and the US coming to agreement to place more sanction on Iran and it nuclear programs.

The question becomes when do they stop with them and go to other measures. American firms still trade with Iran....GE...being one and many other smallers one.

If they stop buying Iran oil becomes the shortest and fastest way to solving the problem. Iran without oil sales is a Iran that is nearing bankuptcy. Of course that means less oil to the global economy.

Once Iran steps away from the nuclear issue, I suspect that the
interceptors can be removed from Europe. So why is Russia really
upset with 10 interceptors covering Europe from Iran's nucs?

One of those $64,000 dollar questions. To hear the Russians, they will blunt their first strike option of Europe. Really? Russia has some 500
Topol-Ms, most with a MIRV (multi nuclear warhead)......so blunting a first strike launch of these is.....a little like General Custer being down to his last bullet at Little Big Horn.

So I come to conclusion. That Russia wants this Iranian nuclear threat
over Europe. Or Russia is being forced to take this position.

Isreal is still the wild card...the loose cannon...er the loose missile.....er the loose fighter bomber.....you get the drift. That little 120 plane sortie to Greece was not intended to be a stealthy one. Radars from Turkey to and Cyprus all had them painted. Isreal wanted everyone in the region to know that they were flying that day.

Did you know that Isreal is very creative and innovative? The F-16 is a short range intercept fighter.....they added confromal fuel tanks to it hull to extend the range. Having learned to do that......I wonder if they added conformal fuel tanks to thier cruise missile? Extending thier range as well.

This is what military innovation is about. It is always the hidden card up a country's sleeve, that you don't know if and when or how it can be played. Russia played a card in giving Iran reactor and weapons systems......for a long time.....12 year or more now.......Isreal has been thinking this for a long time.
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