Skybow: I can see why you would question this. I have something to add about what goes on in hospitals every day across this nation. Doctors and nurses often help the ill in the last stages of dying.
Not just by unplugging the respirator or removing life support either. There quite often is given to the patient by the nurse shot of morphine to shorten the time of death. If family is available they are given the choice, if not it is the doctors call. It is usually ordered and charted as "pain medication" but it is well known among the staff as a way to help the paitent die.
have been present both as a nurse and as a family member in these situations and know what I'm talking about here so is assisted death already going on? I think it is.
I know of similar cases today and in war time. But this is different. A healthy woman commits suicide because she does not like her future living conditions. Why not as a Dr. find not her another place to live? If laws of the land....are so vague or leinant to the issue......that aiding her in suicide is not a criminal act......that just shows how far the left can move to some very unethincal positions.
With the aging of America, Dr. Kvorkian was a real wake up call. There was little to none gov't monitoring of what he was doing. They rang their hands for a time......as the numbers mounted..... finally said it was homicide and .....and arrested him.
Try to imagine a US with assisted suicide laws like Germany? Boy, I have head cold today....and visit the Dr. and he is advising the long down under. If our Dr .today are already doing assisted suicide for the terminal and pained elderly, as we both know do, some will soon be doing it for perfectly healthy elderly.
Just to clarify my position I wan never the nurse giving that shot but did witness others doing it so I'm guilty by association and silence. I also think it is a horrible thing to give someone healthy help to die no matter what age they are.
ttom500: I know of similar cases today and in war time. But this is different. A healthy woman commits suicide because she does not like her future living conditions. Why not as a Dr. find not her another place to live? If laws of the land....are so vague or leinant to the issue......that aiding her in suicide is not a criminal act......that just shows how far the left can move to some very unethincal positions.
With the aging of America, Dr. Kvorkian was a real wake up call. There was little to none gov't monitoring of what he was doing. They rang their hands for a time......as the numbers mounted..... finally said it was homicide and .....and arrested him.
Try to imagine a US with assisted suicide laws like Germany? Boy, I have head cold today....and visit the Dr. and he is advising the long down under. If our Dr .today are already doing assisted suicide for the terminal and pained elderly, as we both know do, some will soon be doing it for perfectly healthy elderly.
This will get even easier once Obama is in office and everyone can afford to see a doctor. That socialized medicine will reap huge benefits Right now it's not a big deal as no one can afford to go to the hospital
Sparky55: This will get even easier once Obama is in office and everyone can afford to see a doctor. That socialized medicine will reap huge benefits Right now it's not a big deal as no one can afford to go to the hospital
But if the standard medical reply instead of being take two asprinin and call me in the morning, becomes take two cynanide capsuls and let me call an undertaker for you. We can run thru 300m people pretty quickly that way.
But you raise a good question. I wonder if this Dr. Kuncsh filed a gov't claim for his services to the lady?
ttom500: But if the standard medical reply instead of being take two asprinin and call me in the morning, becomes take two cynanide capsuls and let me call an undertaker for you. We can run thru 300m people pretty quickly that way.
But you raise a good question. I wonder if this Dr. Kuncsh filed a gov't claim for his services to the lady?
Maybe we should ask them if they are dem or rep when signing into the hospital. That's another great way to monkey with the vote...
Hi Tom! Nice to see you're still hard at it. What have you got for us today?
(Just some advice. If you're ever replacing the end on an extension cord, remember to unplug the other end. Scared the crap out of me when the sparks started flying.)
Indyfella: Back at ya Robert.(Just some advice. If you're ever replacing the end on an extension cord, remember to unplug the other end. Scared the crap out of me when the sparks started flying.)
Just a tip...cuz I'm sensitive.
Holy crap - yeah, good idea. I have replaced them before. Good thing you are here to mention it....
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Not just by unplugging the respirator or removing life support either. There quite often is given to the patient by the nurse shot of morphine to shorten the time of death. If family is available they are given the choice, if not it is the doctors call. It is usually ordered and charted as "pain medication" but it is well known among the staff as a way to help the paitent die.
have been present both as a nurse and as a family member in these situations and know what I'm talking about here so is assisted death already going on? I think it is.
I know of similar cases today and in war time. But this is different. A healthy woman commits suicide because she does not like her future living conditions. Why not as a Dr. find not her another place to live? If laws of the land....are so vague or leinant to the issue......that aiding her in suicide is not a criminal act......that just shows how far the left can move to some very unethincal positions.
With the aging of America, Dr. Kvorkian was a real wake up call.
There was little to none gov't monitoring of what he was doing.
They rang their hands for a time......as the numbers mounted.....
finally said it was homicide and .....and arrested him.
Try to imagine a US with assisted suicide laws like Germany? Boy, I have head cold today....and visit the Dr. and he is advising the long down under. If our Dr .today are already doing assisted suicide for the terminal and pained elderly, as we both know do, some will soon be doing it for perfectly healthy elderly.