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Jul 4, 2008 11:01 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Skybow: I can see why you would question this. I have something to add about what goes on in hospitals every day across this nation. Doctors and nurses often help the ill in the last stages of dying.

Not just by unplugging the respirator or removing life support either. There quite often is given to the patient by the nurse shot of morphine to shorten the time of death. If family is available they are given the choice, if not it is the doctors call. It is usually ordered and charted as "pain medication" but it is well known among the staff as a way to help the paitent die.

have been present both as a nurse and as a family member in these situations and know what I'm talking about here so is assisted death already going on? I think it is.


I know of similar cases today and in war time. But this is different. A healthy woman commits suicide because she does not like her future living conditions. Why not as a Dr. find not her another place to live? If laws of the land....are so vague or leinant to the issue......that aiding her in suicide is not a criminal act......that just shows how far the left can move to some very unethincal positions.

With the aging of America, Dr. Kvorkian was a real wake up call.
There was little to none gov't monitoring of what he was doing.
They rang their hands for a time......as the numbers mounted.....
finally said it was homicide and .....and arrested him.

Try to imagine a US with assisted suicide laws like Germany? Boy, I have head cold today....and visit the Dr. and he is advising the long down under. If our Dr .today are already doing assisted suicide for the terminal and pained elderly, as we both know do, some will soon be doing it for perfectly healthy elderly.
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Jul 4, 2008 11:02 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Just to clarify my position I wan never the nurse giving that shot but did witness others doing it so I'm guilty by association and silence. I also think it is a horrible thing to give someone healthy help to die no matter what age they are.
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Jul 4, 2008 11:18 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Wow!

Hi Peoples.
wave

Nice new threads!
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Jul 4, 2008 11:22 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
WhatUwish4: Wow!

Hi Peoples.


Nice new threads!


Hew Wish happy days for me especially since I'm so cozy with you all I'm not a true liberal according to Dude.
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Jul 4, 2008 11:24 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Skybow: Hew Wish happy days for me especially since I'm so cozy with you all I'm not a true liberal according to Dude.


Hi Sky,

I don't think you have to be an extremeist to be a true liberal. You're a "Lefty Loosey!" WE would all be better off not to be on extreme ends.

Have I missed much today?
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Jul 4, 2008 11:26 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
WhatUwish4: Hi Sky,

I don't think you have to be an extremeist to be a true liberal. You're a "Lefty Loosey!" WE would all be better off not to be on extreme ends.

Have I missed much today?


The party didn't really start until you got here dahling, the blushing lefty loosey demblushing
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Jul 4, 2008 11:28 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Well where the devil is everyone???dunno dunno

Oh yeah, it's the 4th of July. Reminds me that I better get a life, too!
laugh laugh laugh
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Jul 4, 2008 11:29 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
WhatUwish4: Well where the devil is everyone???

Oh yeah, it's the 4th of July. Reminds me that I better get a life, too!


I've got some things to do too but I'll check in. Happy 4th to you.cheering cheering cheering
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Jul 4, 2008 11:35 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
ttom500: I know of similar cases today and in war time. But this is different. A healthy woman commits suicide because she does not like her future living conditions. Why not as a Dr. find not her another place to live? If laws of the land....are so vague or leinant to the issue......that aiding her in suicide is not a criminal act......that just shows how far the left can move to some very unethincal positions.

With the aging of America, Dr. Kvorkian was a real wake up call.
There was little to none gov't monitoring of what he was doing.
They rang their hands for a time......as the numbers mounted.....
finally said it was homicide and .....and arrested him.

Try to imagine a US with assisted suicide laws like Germany? Boy, I have head cold today....and visit the Dr. and he is advising the long down under. If our Dr .today are already doing assisted suicide for the terminal and pained elderly, as we both know do, some will soon be doing it for perfectly healthy elderly.


This will get even easier once Obama is in office and everyone can afford to see a doctor. That socialized medicine will reap huge benefitslaugh Right now it's not a big deal as no one can afford to go to the hospital
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Jul 4, 2008 11:45 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Sparky55: This will get even easier once Obama is in office and everyone can afford to see a doctor. That socialized medicine will reap huge benefits Right now it's not a big deal as no one can afford to go to the hospital


But if the standard medical reply instead of being take two asprinin and call me in the morning, becomes take two cynanide capsuls and let me call an undertaker for you. We can run thru 300m people pretty quickly that way.

But you raise a good question. I wonder if this Dr. Kuncsh filed a gov't claim for his services to the lady?
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Jul 4, 2008 11:47 AM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: But if the standard medical reply instead of being take two asprinin and call me in the morning, becomes take two cynanide capsuls and let me call an undertaker for you. We can run thru 300m people pretty quickly that way.

But you raise a good question. I wonder if this Dr. Kuncsh filed a gov't claim for his services to the lady?



Maybe we should ask them if they are dem or rep when signing into the hospital. That's another great way to monkey with the vote...

Hi Tom! Nice to see you're still hard at it. What have you got for us today?
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Jul 4, 2008 12:17 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Something tells me that Dude won't be on today. He's probably in mourning over Jesse Helms. crying
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Jul 4, 2008 12:18 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Happy 4th all...tip hat
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Jul 4, 2008 12:20 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
rwantin: Happy 4th all...


Same to you. I'm waiting for my Obama t-shirt. We're having a bon fire tonight!
laugh laugh
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Jul 4, 2008 12:20 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Indyfella: Something tells me that Dude won't be on today. He's probably in mourning over Jesse Helms.


Did you say something about doing this in his absense? Is he gone?
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Jul 4, 2008 12:22 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
WhatUwish4: Same to you. I'm waiting for my Obama t-shirt. We're having a bon fire tonight!


But then it would smell like smoke. tongue

Okay, time for breakfast. Why am I always in the process of eating in these threads? I'll be looking like Michael Moore any day now...uh oh
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Jul 4, 2008 12:22 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rwantin: Happy 4th all...


Back at ya Robert.


(Just some advice. If you're ever replacing the end on an extension cord, remember to unplug the other end. Scared the crap out of me when the sparks started flying.)

Just a tip...cuz I'm sensitive. laugh
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Jul 4, 2008 12:22 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: Same to you. I'm waiting for my Obama t-shirt. We're having a bon fire tonight!



There goes the ozone layer. crying
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Jul 4, 2008 12:23 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Indyfella: Back at ya Robert.(Just some advice. If you're ever replacing the end on an extension cord, remember to unplug the other end. Scared the crap out of me when the sparks started flying.)

Just a tip...cuz I'm sensitive.


rolling on the floor laughing Holy crap - yeah, good idea. I have replaced them before. Good thing you are here to mention it....tip hat
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Jul 4, 2008 12:23 PM CST OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rwantin: But then it would smell like smoke.

Okay, time for breakfast. Why am I always in the process of eating in these threads? I'll be looking like Michael Moore any day now...



IMPOSSIBLE!
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