Euthanasia (129)
cherokeemoon2: .I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.
In Holland you have to kill your self , a drink is prepared you drink it fallowed by another one 20 min’s later the pass out before your respiratory system fails , (it’s a lot more humane than lethal injection )
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cherokeemoon2: well I have way to much compassion to do such a thing.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.
you'd need some training
did you suggest i should wait until i get old to understand or to feel how it could be? Put yourself in a painful situation...very painful...invalid, something like Jampet described...
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cherokeemoon2: well I have way to much compassion to do such a thing.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.
hmmmmm!! compassion- how compassionate is it to watch someone choke on their own saliva- be unable to do the simplest task( think about it- i'm not talking eating here), watch them writhe in pain as they beg to be let go??
I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy!
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Good thread Cris.. this should get the voices talking. 
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cherokeemoon2: No killing another human being is still murder nomatter how u do it.Wait untill ur elderly and ask ur self that question.
ask the 30 year old recently married person i look after, that can't wipe the drool from her own mouth,( i won't specify other functions for the feint hearted) if she's waiting to be elderly??
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In Holland you have to kill your self , a drink is prepared you drink it fallowed by another one 20 min’s later the pass out before your respiratory system fails , (it’s a lot more humane than lethal injection )[/quote
Not always you can kill yourself...
Killing "yourself" has an extend meaning which ends up being the same where Euthanasia is leagl: your consent.
Anyway, there is a long process before that...
There had been a documentary about French Swiss going on in Europe 2 years ago or so, have you seen it? Can remember any details about the production...
Not always you can kill yourself...
Killing "yourself" has an extend meaning which ends up being the same where Euthanasia is leagl: your consent.
Anyway, there is a long process before that...
There had been a documentary about French Swiss going on in Europe 2 years ago or so, have you seen it? Can remember any details about the production...
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Claayer: Good thread Cris.. this should get the voices talking.
You're welcome antie
Thanks
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cherokeemoon2: well I have way to much compassion to do such a thing.I would never get over helping someone to kill themselves.
I had to face this decision twice this year. In one case, the suffering was ABOUT to become so obviously severe that I found myself begging the doctor to just please hurry. It's a source of comfort to me that I at least spared her the worst.
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cristina: you'd need some training
did you suggest i should wait until i get old to understand or to feel how it could be? Put yourself in a painful situation...very painful...invalid, something like Jampet described...
NO I am not suggesting anything if I had meant that I would have said it.But I am a firm believer that u cannot fully know about another persons situation unless u have walked in their shoesI do not intend to get in a argument about this.SO did you suggest i should wait until i get old to understand or to feel how it could be? Put yourself in a painful situation...very painful...invalid, something like Jampet described...
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jampet: ask the 30 year old recently married person i look after, that can't wipe the drool from her own mouth,( i won't specify other functions for the feint hearted) if she's waiting to be elderly??
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there was a comment made- in a national paper recently- by a journalist whose lover had recently died- that said 'hospice nurses....licence to kill!' man, that made my blood boil- i work hand in hand with the hospice nurses- we share care in the weekday, then we take over on the weekends- they are the most caring compassionate, knowledgeable people I have ever met, and NEVER, EVER, have I seen them use any more drugs than is medically necessary to ease suffering- not hasten a death!
that is not what we do- we make the last few minutes, hours, days, as comfortable and bearable as possible- to allow them to enjoy their time with their families, and die with a scrap of dignity!
if you have not been in that situation personally.please do not judge
that is not what we do- we make the last few minutes, hours, days, as comfortable and bearable as possible- to allow them to enjoy their time with their families, and die with a scrap of dignity!
if you have not been in that situation personally.please do not judge
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cherokeemoon2: NO I am not suggesting anything if I had meant that I would have said it.But I am a firm believer that u cannot fully know about another persons situation unless u have walked in their shoesI do not intend to get in a argument about this.SO
Just for clarification - I'm not arguing with you either. I didn't know how I would feel when put to the test... but I do now...
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cherokeemoon2: I am glad ur a nurse in Ireland and not here.
meaning?????
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cherokeemoon2: I am glad ur a nurse in Ireland and not here.
what's the impact of the difference on this matter?
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WhatUwish4: Just for clarification - I'm not arguing with you either. I didn't know how I would feel when put to the test... but I do now...
Tk u I didnt think u were.But Ive been here long enough to know where this is headed.I am sorry u were put to the test,its not a fun place to be.
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cherokeemoon2: Tk u I didnt think u were.But Ive been here long enough to know where this is headed.I am sorry u were put to the test,its not a fun place to be.
And thank you.
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jampet: meaning?????
She could not think of anything intelligent to say
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jampet: there was a comment made- in a national paper recently- by a journalist whose lover had recently died- that said 'hospice nurses....licence to kill!' man, that made my blood boil- i work hand in hand with the hospice nurses- we share care in the weekday, then we take over on the weekends- they are the most caring compassionate, knowledgeable people I have ever met, and NEVER, EVER, have I seen them use any more drugs than is medically necessary to ease suffering- not hasten a death!
that is not what we do- we make the last few minutes, hours, days, as comfortable and bearable as possible- to allow them to enjoy their time with their families, and die with a scrap of dignity!
if you have not been in that situation personally.please do not judge
that is not what we do- we make the last few minutes, hours, days, as comfortable and bearable as possible- to allow them to enjoy their time with their families, and die with a scrap of dignity!
if you have not been in that situation personally.please do not judge
I helped my mom die with dignity...
No, it was not euthanasia...
Sometimes, people that love the ill prefer they die...
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cristina: Yes, No and why?
I'll get back to you when I'm in the position to know 
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