Euthanasia (129)
cristina: i...i'd need that training
a lot of it is to do with the make up of the brain so it’s not every one that could be trained to do it although with the correct training a lot of people could be trained to do it,
I base this on the fact that during ww2 only 2% of frontline soldiers shot regularly with the intention to kill , these days with modern training that’s up to 96%
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Yes I feel someone should be allowed to die in dignity.
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livinglarge: Yes I have seen all of that and more , it is terrible and so upsetting . I am undecided about Euthanasia to be perfectly honest. But I really do have such a problem with the term, "dying with dignity" When I watched helplessly on when this was happening , the people were sooo dignified soo brave . Who says that dying in the way fate intended for you is undignified ? I really don't know who decides this. Of course there is the extreme of pain and everything else that goes it2 it , yes I do know . But " undignified ? Hell no!! Is this not the circle of life coming in2 play. We come in2 the world needing everything done fof us
and hopefuly leave it with all our loved ones with us , to ease us on our path. I think that is why Death is called by some the last tabboo , it is painfly hard to deal with and frightening ! JMO
and hopefuly leave it with all our loved ones with us , to ease us on our path. I think that is why Death is called by some the last tabboo , it is painfly hard to deal with and frightening ! JMO
interesting, there's nothing to do with dignity but a natural course for certain people...well that's the excuse remaining all over
I just thought that there were diseases more "dignified" than others...
I'd suffer less to know that i'm in my terminal due to cancer than due to AIDS...it's more dignifying...
A bit out of the subject but just to give a view of the "invalid" ... i don't know
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cristina: I helped my mom die with dignity...
No, it was not euthanasia...
Sometimes, people that love the ill prefer they die...
No, it was not euthanasia...
Sometimes, people that love the ill prefer they die...
Oh sweetie, I'm sorry for your loss!
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livinglarge: Hi Claayer , alas no I don't work in healthcare , but have watched the death process on two occasions , it is horrible , yes it really is !
I have been doing this every day for the almost eight years now..
It doesn't effect me like it did at the beginning..
I used to get soooooo attached.. and be be so upset when they died.
But over time I learned to give 99% of myself ..
and keep that 1% back.
and for me it works.. The 99% lets them and the family think I am giving them my all..
but the 1% keeps me back .. and helps me disassociate myself... as mean as that sounds.
But if I didn't do that ..
then I would be crap at my job because I would be spending too much time crying.
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cristina: interesting, there's nothing to do with dignity but a natural course for certain people...well that's the excuse remaining all over
I just thought that there were diseases more "dignified" than others...
I'd suffer less to know that i'm in my terminal due to cancer than due to AIDS...it's more dignifying...
A bit out of the subject but just to give a view of the "invalid" ... i don't know
I just thought that there were diseases more "dignified" than others...
I'd suffer less to know that i'm in my terminal due to cancer than due to AIDS...it's more dignifying...
A bit out of the subject but just to give a view of the "invalid" ... i don't know
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Xtabentun: Oh sweetie, I'm sorry for your loss!
It's ok hon, thanks.
It's been 3 years now. Time flashes!
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I have given an oath to save lives, not take them.
I could never do it.
I could never do it.
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livinglarge: No I wasnt arguing , on the fence as I said !! It is a gr8 thread , thank you !
not to worry about arguing or discuss
thanks dear
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NorseMedic: I have given an oath to save lives, not take them.
I could never do it.
I could never do it.
Helloo Val
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Claayer: I have been doing this every day for the almost eight years now..
It doesn't effect me like it did at the beginning..
I used to get soooooo attached.. and be be so upset when they died.
But over time I learned to give 99% of myself ..
and keep that 1% back.
and for me it works.. The 99% lets them and the family think I am giving them my all..
but the 1% keeps me back .. and helps me disassociate myself... as mean as that sounds.
But if I didn't do that ..
then I would be crap at my job because I would be spending too much time crying.
It doesn't effect me like it did at the beginning..
I used to get soooooo attached.. and be be so upset when they died.
But over time I learned to give 99% of myself ..
and keep that 1% back.
and for me it works.. The 99% lets them and the family think I am giving them my all..
but the 1% keeps me back .. and helps me disassociate myself... as mean as that sounds.
But if I didn't do that ..
then I would be crap at my job because I would be spending too much time crying.
Absolutely Claayer , it must be hard ! It would be a benifit to retain some for yourself , it is a must !!
I have three nurses in my family , I respect them so much and also carers like yourself who do some much and make such a difference to the loved one and the family , as seen at first hand also
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Thanks up to now guys,
It's almost 1:30 a.m, i must go to bed.
Family, enjoy!
It's almost 1:30 a.m, i must go to bed.
Family, enjoy!
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cristina: not to worry about arguing or discuss
thanks dear
Cool thanks dear
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cristina: Thanks up to now guys,
It's almost 1:30 a.m, i must go to bed.
Family, enjoy!
Nite , nite sleep well !It's almost 1:30 a.m, i must go to bed.
Family, enjoy!
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NorseMedic: I have given an oath to save lives, not take them.
I could never do it.
I could never do it.
It’s actually human instinct that would (and does) prevent most people form premeditatedly taking some ones life ,
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Claayer: I have been doing this every day for the almost eight years now..
It doesn't effect me like it did at the beginning..
I used to get soooooo attached.. and be be so upset when they died.
But over time I learned to give 99% of myself ..
and keep that 1% back.
and for me it works.. The 99% lets them and the family think I am giving them my all..
but the 1% keeps me back .. and helps me disassociate myself... as mean as that sounds.
But if I didn't do that ..
then I would be crap at my job because I would be spending too much time crying.
It doesn't effect me like it did at the beginning..
I used to get soooooo attached.. and be be so upset when they died.
But over time I learned to give 99% of myself ..
and keep that 1% back.
and for me it works.. The 99% lets them and the family think I am giving them my all..
but the 1% keeps me back .. and helps me disassociate myself... as mean as that sounds.
But if I didn't do that ..
then I would be crap at my job because I would be spending too much time crying.
yeah- afew years in ICU did that for me- though i'm still sooo affected .not by the death, but by the families pain!
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livinglarge: Absolutely Claayer , it must be hard ! It would be a benifit to retain some for yourself , it is a must !!
I have three nurses in my family , I respect them so much and also carers like yourself who do some much and make such a difference to the loved one and the family , as seen at first hand also
I have three nurses in my family , I respect them so much and also carers like yourself who do some much and make such a difference to the loved one and the family , as seen at first hand also
No offence to any nurses.. But we often do a lot more of the hands on work.
Sadly in the UK the Community/District nurses are usually pushed for time.. have a heavy round.. and have to get on with whatever they came to do .. then get to their next patient.
I know that's not always the case.. but I see it a lot. (I work with the nurses too sometimes)..
A lot of the nurses I work with say that they would rather work more hands on again .. and it has all become so clinical and 'Time kept' .. that the reason they became a nurse is not something they are getting to do any more.
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jampet: yeah- afew years in ICU did that for me- though i'm still sooo affected .not by the death, but by the families pain!
Thats it! me too
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NorseMedic: I have given an oath to save lives, not take them.
I could never do it.
I could never do it.
that's good- and i wholeheartedy respect that- as i do not take lives either- but for myself( and by that i mean , if I was in the situation that i was a possible candidate) I would choose euthenasia, if the need arose
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Hi Claayer , alas no I don't work in healthcare , but have watched the death process on two occasions , it is horrible , yes it really is !