Scotland, March 1996: Gun enthusiast Thomas Hamilton shoots 16 children and their teacher dead at their primary school in Dunblane, Scotland before killing himself.
Germany, November 1999: A 15-year-old student in Meissen, eastern Germany, stabbed his teacher to death after taking bets from classmates he would dare commit the crime.
Germany, March 2000: A 16-year-old pupil at a private boarding school in the Bavarian town of Branneburg, shot a 57-year-old teacher, who later died from injuries.
Germany, February 2002: A former pupil killed his headmaster and set off pipe bombs in the technical school he had recently been expelled from in Freising near Munich.
Germany, April 2002: Seventeen people killed after a gunman - a former pupil - opens fire in a school in Erfurt, eastern Germany. He then turned the gun on himself.
An 18-year-old gunman opened fire at his high school in this placid town in southern Finland on Wednesday, killing seven other students and the principal before mortally wounding himself in a rampage that stunned a nation where gun crime is rare.
Nope...it's not just a U.S. thing...it can happen anywhere apparently...I know it has here...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: The shootings I found so far:Scotland, March 1996: Gun enthusiast Thomas Hamilton shoots 16 children and their teacher dead at their primary school in Dunblane, Scotland before killing himself.
Germany , November 1999: A 15-year-old student in Meissen, eastern Germany, stabbed his teacher to death after taking bets from classmates he would dare commit the crime.
Germany, March 2000: A 16-year-old pupil at a private boarding school in the Bavarian town of Branneburg, shot a 57-year-old teacher, who later died from injuries.
Germany , February 2002: A former pupil killed his headmaster and set off pipe bombs in the technical school he had recently been expelled from in Freising near Munich.
Germany , April 2002: Seventeen people killed after a gunman - a former pupil - opens fire in a school in Erfurt, eastern Germany. He then turned the gun on himself.
An 18-year-old gunman opened fire at his high school in this placid town in southern Finland on Wednesday, killing seven other students and the principal before mortally wounding himself in a rampage that stunned a nation where gun crime is rare.
Nope...it's not just a U.S. thing...it can happen anywhere apparently...I know it has here...
cristina: in US every 6 months 2 cases at least, no?
I mean they don't happen everyday...I'm not sure of the rate...but don't forget there are 52 states in the U.S....and they are not always in the same place....My point is...a student can snap anyplace anytime and obviously it has happened...so...there is a further root to the problem obviously than wealth....
Hugz_n_Kissez: The shootings I found so far:Scotland, March 1996: Gun enthusiast Thomas Hamilton shoots 16 children and their teacher dead at their primary school in Dunblane, Scotland before killing himself.
Germany , November 1999: A 15-year-old student in Meissen, eastern Germany, stabbed his teacher to death after taking bets from classmates he would dare commit the crime.
Germany, March 2000: A 16-year-old pupil at a private boarding school in the Bavarian town of Branneburg, shot a 57-year-old teacher, who later died from injuries.
Germany , February 2002: A former pupil killed his headmaster and set off pipe bombs in the technical school he had recently been expelled from in Freising near Munich.
Germany , April 2002: Seventeen people killed after a gunman - a former pupil - opens fire in a school in Erfurt, eastern Germany. He then turned the gun on himself.
An 18-year-old gunman opened fire at his high school in this placid town in southern Finland on Wednesday, killing seven other students and the principal before mortally wounding himself in a rampage that stunned a nation where gun crime is rare.
Nope...it's not just a U.S. thing...it can happen anywhere apparently...I know it has here...
Thanks, Hugsy. I was thinking of the one in Finland when I wrote to Cristina...
cristina: Ambrose, at what time will you have dinner tonight ? Just curious cause here is almost 2am and you don't look ready for dinner
Heck, I just cooked a hamburger tonight, Cristina. Almost anything goes with that (though the grease flying everywhere can soil my painted fingernails and beautiful hair )
School districts have the freedom to adopt any policy they choose, but they are still required to follow state and federal regulations.
From the Texas Penal Code Title 10:
§ 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a): (1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;
Okay I was wrong!
I know many school districts hire licensed & bonded security guards, or off duty police officers who carry firearms. I guess this district is trying to save a few bucks
diogenes: School districts have the freedom to adopt any policy they choose, but they are still required to follow state and federal regulations.
From the Texas Penal Code Title 10:
§ 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm , illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a): (1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; Okay I was wrong!
I know many school districts hire licensed & bonded security guards, or off duty police officers who carry firearms. I guess this district is trying to save a few bucks
Yeah I was wondering why they didn't do that...because to me it sounds like a better alternative and safe proofing the school.....
diogenes: School districts have the freedom to adopt any policy they choose, but they are still required to follow state and federal regulations.
From the Texas Penal Code Title 10:
§ 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm , illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a): (1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; Okay I was wrong!
I know many school districts hire licensed & bonded security guards, or off duty police officers who carry firearms. I guess this district is trying to save a few bucks
The U.S. Congress once barred guns at schools nationwide, but the U.S. Supreme Court struck the law down, although state and local communities could adopt their own laws. Texas bars guns at schools without the school's permission.
Maybe this is why you thought it was wrong....they were banned nationwide but the law was struck down by the Supreme Court....
Just catching up on this thread... I was born & bred in Texas. In 1999, upon seeing how ineffective weapons control methods (metal detectors, police officers, see-thru backpacks, etc.) were in public schools in Amarillo when my son was in 6th grade, I pulled him out & began homeschooling. Many other parents did the same. We formed a homeschool coalition in order that working parents could participate as well.
I am not rich, but homeschooling allowed my son & I freedom to travel the world in order to enrich him culturally as well as academically. This past June, at age 17, he has received his High School Equivalency Degree with the highest ever recorded score at the trade school he attends (Job Corps). He is the youngest employee in the office where he works for a satellite TV company as salesperson (all the rest are in their late 20s, 30s & 40s).
Homeschooling is not an opportunity available to many families; however, it can make a huge difference. Altho we traveled in some 3rd world countries (yes, some communist) and saw some pretty hairy things, I never worried about his safety like I did when he was in public school. Travel & exposure to other cultures has made all the difference in his level of maturity & understanding of the world in which we live.
It is deplorable that our educational systems have sunk to this level; yet it is a worldwide problem. If I had no choice but public schools to educate my son today, I would feel much more comfortable knowing that among those present were highly-trained & armed professionals who had a vested interest in their own safety that of their students.
There are no easy answers - but the girl with the dreadlocks is out of her gourd, IMHO.
topeshka: Just catching up on this thread... I was born & bred in Texas. In 1999, upon seeing how ineffective weapons control methods (metal detectors, police officers, see-thru backpacks, etc.) were in public schools in Amarillo when my son was in 6th grade, I pulled him out & began homeschooling. Many other parents did the same. We formed a homeschool coalition in order that working parents could participate as well.
I am not rich, but homeschooling allowed my son & I freedom to travel the world in order to enrich him culturally as well as academically. This past June, at age 17, he has received his High School Equivalency Degree with the highest ever recorded score at the trade school he attends (Job Corps). He is the youngest employee in the office where he works for a satellite TV company as salesperson (all the rest are in their late 20s, 30s & 40s).
Homeschooling is not an opportunity available to many families; however, it can make a huge difference. Altho we traveled in some 3rd world countries (yes, some communist) and saw some pretty hairy things, I never worried about his safety like I did when he was in public school. Travel & exposure to other cultures has made all the difference in his level of maturity & understanding of the world in which we live.
It is deplorable that our educational systems have sunk to this level; yet it is a worldwide problem. If I had no choice but public schools to educate my son today, I would feel much more comfortable knowing that among those present were highly-trained & armed professionals who had a vested interest in their own safety that of their students.
There are no easy answers - but the girl with the dreadlocks is out of her gourd, IMHO.
Good for you...I would make the same choice if things ever got that bad here too...I'm glad to hear that your son did sooooooo well and also had such a well rounded cultural experience on top of his education...that's something you will never get at a public school....My kids are 16 and there are no schools like that in my city...but it's also a smaller city...In the larger cities like Toronto though....I think they may be looking at a lot more security such as police officers at the schools....
does it make anyone wonder what is the underlying problem with kids, as to why they need all this extra security...or how else could i put this...hmmmm....what the hell is wrong with these mean little bast@rds?.... i know its no laughing matter but, in ya'lls opinion, what or who do ya'll think is at fault?....
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Good point, Hugsy! Those damn deer...they don't care what they breed with!