Seven social sins ( Archived) (17)

Sep 21, 2008 10:22 AM CST Seven social sins
pyaremohan
pyaremohanpyaremohandelhi, Delhi India19 Threads 1,084 Posts
1) politics without principle
2)wealth without work
3)pleasure without conscience
4)knowledge without character
5)commerce without morality
6)science without humanity
7)worship without sacrifice


- Mahatma Gandhi

these words were said by the Mahatma like 80 yrs back .......how relevant

r they in todays world.n how relevant is non-violence.....ur views.....
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Sep 21, 2008 10:27 AM CST Seven social sins
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
Golden rules
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Sep 21, 2008 10:32 AM CST Seven social sins
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
I agree with most, but there are two I would disagree with on the list.

2. Wealth without work...how is it a sin to have inherited? Somebody along the way worked for it. And many who inherit do good with it (not all, but many do).

Any other wealth comes with work. Money is not the only kind of wealth that there is, though.

7. Worship without sacrifice...I don't believe that one has to sacrifice anything to worship, whether it's animals, tithing money, or physical pain from too long spent in meditation poses...or, giving up all material possessions. One can revere and worship whatever they do, whether God or Nature, without sacrifice. It's the dogmas of organized religions that require sacrifice as proof of being a "true believer".

JMO. Good morning, Rahul! wave
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Sep 21, 2008 10:39 AM CST Seven social sins
pyaremohan
pyaremohanpyaremohandelhi, Delhi India19 Threads 1,084 Posts
druidess6308: I agree with most, but there are two I would disagree with on the list.

2. Wealth without work...how is it a sin to have inherited? Somebody along the way worked for it. And many who inherit do good with it (not all, but many do).

Any other wealth comes with work. Money is not the only kind of wealth that there is, though.

7. Worship without sacrifice...I don't believe that one has to sacrifice anything to worship, whether it's animals, tithing money, or physical pain from too long spent in meditation poses...or, giving up all material possessions. One can revere and worship whatever they do, whether God or Nature, without sacrifice. It's the dogmas of organized religions that require sacrifice as proof of being a "true believer".

JMO. Good morning, Rahul!



hi dru ......i agree with ya....he meant stealin(is not a work)
he was against animal sacrifice.........what he meant was worship ur body with sacrifice like givin up earthly things.the situtation was like at that at that time .he was a man of really hard principles.

How r ya today ma kung fu master. bowing
now dont confuse this bowin ...its for promisin me to be ma kung fu master only grin
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Sep 21, 2008 10:41 AM CST Seven social sins
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
^^^^^^^ ....What she said..
druidess6308: I agree with most, but there are two I would disagree with on the list.

2. Wealth without work...how is it a sin to have inherited? Somebody along the way worked for it. And many who inherit do good with it (not all, but many do).

Any other wealth comes with work. Money is not the only kind of wealth that there is, though.

7. Worship without sacrifice...I don't believe that one has to sacrifice anything to worship, whether it's animals, tithing money, or physical pain from too long spent in meditation poses...or, giving up all material possessions. One can revere and worship whatever they do, whether God or Nature, without sacrifice. It's the dogmas of organized religions that require sacrifice as proof of being a "true believer".

JMO. Good morning, Rahul!
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Sep 21, 2008 10:42 AM CST Seven social sins
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
pyaremohan: hi dru ......i agree with ya....he meant stealin(is not a work)
he was against animal sacrifice.........what he meant was worship ur body with sacrifice like givin up earthly things.the situtation was like at that at that time .he was a man of really hard principles.

How r ya today ma kung fu master.
now dont confuse this bowin ...its for promisin me to be ma kung fu master only


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing I'm no master, R! I wish! Not a girl to mess with, but there are masters out there. With martial arts, I have to say I'm more of a jack-of-all-trades/master of none.

If I've ever seriously given that impression, my apologies. bowing
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Sep 21, 2008 10:44 AM CST Seven social sins
pyaremohan
pyaremohanpyaremohandelhi, Delhi India19 Threads 1,084 Posts
druidess6308: I'm no master, R! I wish! Not a girl to mess with, but there are masters out there. With martial arts, I have to say I'm more of a jack-of-all-trades/master of none.

If I've ever seriously given that impression, my apologies.



oh no .......no probs will learn togther as buddies handshake
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Sep 21, 2008 10:52 AM CST Seven social sins
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
Wealth without work- I think it means taking without giving.
and worship without sacrifice means don't always think of yourself first.JMO
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Sep 21, 2008 10:52 AM CST Seven social sins
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
pyaremohan: oh no .......no probs will learn togther as buddies


That's cool. I can teach you basics, though. handshake
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Sep 21, 2008 10:54 AM CST Seven social sins
pyaremohan
pyaremohanpyaremohandelhi, Delhi India19 Threads 1,084 Posts
mastic55: Wealth without work- I think it means taking without giving.
and worship without sacrifice means don't always think of yourself first.JMO


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Sep 21, 2008 11:01 AM CST Seven social sins
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
mastic55: Wealth without work- I think it means taking without giving.
and worship without sacrifice means don't always think of yourself first.JMO


That's good, Mastic. And with those meanings, I would then agree with those two. handshake
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Sep 21, 2008 2:18 PM CST Seven social sins
mastic55: Golden rules


Agreedthumbs up
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Sep 21, 2008 2:21 PM CST Seven social sins
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
I understand all of those except the last one teddybear
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Sep 21, 2008 2:53 PM CST Seven social sins
PunkyPink
PunkyPinkPunkyPinkConyers, Georgia USA3 Threads 12 Posts
pyaremohan:
1) politics without principle
2)wealth without work
3)pleasure without conscience
4)knowledge without character
5)commerce without morality
6)science without humanity
7)worship without sacrifice- Mahatma Gandhi

these words were said by the Mahatma like 80 yrs back .......how relevant

r they in todays world.n how relevant is non-violence.....ur views.....



Great things come from great people, shame more of us just plain dont listen to the great ones.
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Sep 21, 2008 2:54 PM CST Seven social sins
PunkyPink: Great things come from great people, shame more of us just plain dont listen to the great ones.


True if we did then we would not have the problems in the world we have.
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Sep 21, 2008 2:56 PM CST Seven social sins
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Great stuff. Thank you for sharing...tip hat
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Sep 21, 2008 3:48 PM CST Seven social sins
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA30 Threads 2,969 Posts
pyaremohan: 1) politics without principle
2)wealth without work
3)pleasure without conscience
4)knowledge without character
5)commerce without morality
6)science without humanity
7)worship without sacrifice- Mahatma Gandhi

these words were said by the Mahatma like 80 yrs back .......how relevant

r they in todays world.n how relevant is non-violence.....ur views.....






Mahatma Gandhi drank his own piss.....why would I listen to him????help
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