Bibliophiles unite ( Archived) (62)

Oct 11, 2008 1:44 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...
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Oct 11, 2008 2:05 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...


Yeah like I needed another reason to collect more books. My home is already likened to a book shelter for abused and unwanted literature. Thanks buddy now I am going to have to get a second job to buy a bigger house...sigh
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Oct 11, 2008 2:10 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
mylifewithu
mylifewithumylifewithuSpringfield, Missouri USA174 Threads 23,670 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...
I think the computer that the government has thats named Magog and serial numbers containing 666 is the beast, the day will come when all are channeled thru it and it is stricken with a virus or goes haywire, and everything goes down, power, water, banks, stores, stockmarket etc. Then we are doomed for most of us live in a concrete world we would be lucky to catch enough rats, birds and squirrels to live on.laugh laugh And no water we won't last long anyway.laugh laugh laugh
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Oct 11, 2008 2:47 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
If the libraries of alexandria hadn't been burned there never would have been a dark age...people need to wake up, and start preserving some of the things that actually work and are sustainable...


BarrenPneuma: Yeah like I needed another reason to collect more books. My home is already likened to a book shelter for abused and unwanted literature. Thanks buddy now I am going to have to get a second job to buy a bigger house...
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Oct 11, 2008 2:50 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
mylifewithu
mylifewithumylifewithuSpringfield, Missouri USA174 Threads 23,670 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: If the libraries of alexandria hadn't been burned there never would have been a dark age...people need to wake up, and start preserving some of the things that actually work and are sustainable...
Ok then we just need to protect our Libraries like a Fort Knox, then they will be saved.laugh applause
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Oct 11, 2008 4:07 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
We have to protect our right to have libraries. There was an attitude at several points in history that if it wasn't in the Bible or the Qu'ran it wasn't worth preserving. In hard times, religious fanatics will feel justified in pronuncing end times and producing self-fulfilling prophecies. In the result of that, the more moderate of us must preserve a level of technology that fights against such ignorance. Things change, even the bad times. But by succumbing to Malthus' fears, we create them. Things are not geometric nor are they linear. Adaptation is key.


mylifewithu: Ok then we just need to protect our Libraries like a Fort Knox, then they will be saved.
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Oct 11, 2008 7:58 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
"Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh."

The separate destinies of the Church and Israel, a belief which is inherent in dispensationalism is a particular concern to some Jews and to some evangelical Christians. Evangelicals who reject dispensationalism, such as those who hold to a Post Tribulation Rapture, (or more accurately a Post Tribulation Resurrection-Rapture), see both the Church and Israel entering the crucible of the End Time together. These Traditional Pre-Millennialists, as they are called, reject dispensationalism and its end time eschatology as setting forth a dubious eschatology of an "apartheid of the Elect". They consider the dispensationalist doctrine of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture to be self-serving and highly unlikely to be the true last days policy of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Traditional Pre-Millennialists see all the covenant people of the God of Israel being refined together in the crucible of the end time. They also see the "royal priesthood and holy nation" referred to by Moses and by the Apostle Peter being unveiled in the Apocalypse as a single remnant Elect drawn out from Israel and from the wider Church in the nations.

Just to many coinidences to completely ignore... sigh
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Oct 11, 2008 8:21 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
doh not seeing the tree for the forrest!
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Oct 11, 2008 9:29 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
I need to open my drapes.
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Oct 11, 2008 9:34 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
Aries I am so proud to know you as a friend. You have a clarity that surpasses much of the mire of our present world and are surely blessed.

hug hug
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Oct 11, 2008 9:35 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Would you believe that I left my patio door partly open all night. Someone could have

easily come in and stolen my books. (or the squirrels that constantly run across it could have

come in and destroyed them.) For shame.uh oh
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Oct 11, 2008 9:36 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
BarrenPneuma: Aries I am so proud to know you as a friend. You have a clarity that surpasses much of the mire of our present world and are surely blessed.


likewise hug
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Oct 11, 2008 1:11 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Federal ownership of banks eventually will predicate a single currency for the entire world, cashless, based only on ones and zeros, and if you aren't part of the system you will starve...

Because prophecies work doesn't mean they're prescient or that they're inspired by God...All of these things could be extrapolated...people MAKE them happen...how hard is it to figure out famine will be an effect of overpopulation, or that huge wars will be fought, or that people will try to manipulate the system to their advantage...

Don't blame this on God or Jesus, or Satan...this is OUR fault, our complacency, our need to feel secure, our ignorance...


Dark Ages, here we come again....Superstition wins out over reason every time...FEARFUL MONKEYS DESERVE TO DIE....doh mumbling
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Oct 11, 2008 1:48 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
dillinger
dillingerdillingersexxay town, Fife, Scotland UK14 Threads 522 Posts
honestly. it is hard to fathom all the negativity towards satan. why, satay's a lovely chap. witty, well dressed and he's an excellent host. one really couldn't wish for a better neighbour
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Oct 11, 2008 1:52 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...



I actually learned how to get info from a book and look up books in a library card file system...I was one of te lucky ones....professor uh oh dunno grin
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Oct 11, 2008 2:34 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I actually learned how to get info from a book and look up books in a library card file system...I was one of te lucky ones....


The idea of information domination is scary to me...I guess thats why at heart I'm an anachronist when it comes to books. Instant access to information doesn't make it correct information. Books aren't immune to this either, but I figure that certain books, like my engineering references, will never be accused of beig biased in any way.

Scientific method is imperfect, but its the only thing that has made any significant impact on alleviating what Thomas Hobbes called the "war of all versus all" and what otherwise makes our lives, "nasty, brutish, and short."
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Oct 11, 2008 3:15 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
dillinger: honestly. it is hard to fathom all the negativity towards satan. why, satay's a lovely chap. witty, well dressed and he's an excellent host. one really couldn't wish for a better neighbour


No real need to fear (satan) for it is the contrast that is necessary in order to recognize the things

considered good.

That is probably the allegorical meaning behind the parable of satan.

Oh what a web....
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Oct 11, 2008 3:34 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...


I was seriously thinking before any of this was brought up, quite a while ago, how I treasure the

book collection I have now. Having weeded out more books than I care to admit, I now have

on several shelves only the books that sustain the belief of who I am, today, and what I am so

willing to become. From my vantage point -- they are books that will carry me through now and

give thought for new concepts and ideas later on. They are treasures - ones I doubt I'll part from.
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Oct 11, 2008 4:24 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty45: I was seriously thinking before any of this was brought up, quite a while ago, how I treasure the

book collection I have now. Having weeded out more books than I care to admit, I now have

on several shelves only the books that sustain the belief of who I am, today, and what I am so

willing to become. From my vantage point -- they are books that will carry me through now and

give thought for new concepts and ideas later on. They are treasures - ones I doubt I'll part from.


I just keep remembering that scene in the day after tomorrow in the library, where they're burning all the books to stay warm...god help us all if it ever comes to that...I'd almost rather die and let the books remain as a testament to any who survive...
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Oct 11, 2008 4:44 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I just keep remembering that scene in the day after tomorrow in the library, where they're burning all the books to stay warm...god help us all if it ever comes to that...I'd almost rather die and let the books remain as a testament to any who survive...


Never fear, fear. What you retain in your heart is your real salvation. Therein lies all the wisdom.
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