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Oct 11, 2008 4:51 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty45: Never fear, fear . What you retain in your heart is your real salvation. Therein lies all the wisdom.


I will keep my inch (as is expressed in V for Vendetta). I do not fear death, only the fear of death. A warrior is not one who flinches from fear, but fear of fear to act.
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Oct 11, 2008 5:01 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I will keep my inch (as is expressed in V for Vendetta). I do not fear death, only the fear of death. A warrior is not one who flinches from fear, but fear of fear to act.


I think we all fear death. That's why we hold on to this illusion.

I fear to act as well. (Guess I'm not perrrrfect, yet.)
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Oct 11, 2008 5:08 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty45: I think we all fear death. That's why we hold on to this illusion.

I fear to act as well. (Guess I'm not perrrrfect, yet.)


That's what I'm trying to say. The samurai book Hagakuri says, "even in the moment of death, if a retainer carries through with his last act, then surely he will not fail at life."

I think, as you say, the fear of death is universal. What we forget is that freedom is worth death, and that in the end, we're all doing life. Wherever you go there you are.

It's these sorts of thoughts that cannot be lost. Man will suffer change in his environment. That is inevitable. I believe the only way to adapt and survive is through Gnosis. Knowledge is so vast these days, in the information age, that we must preserve the heights for those that follow.

When we swing back into a low, knowledge takes a back seat to necessity, but it surely must not be lost, because things which serve no purpose no may end up being our salvation 50 years from now. Just a thought. I throw no ideas away. As a writer, I use a recycling bin...wink
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Oct 11, 2008 5:10 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Galactic, have you noticed our pics. We seem to be losing our definitive lines of our 'self'. wink

My pics are light by choice but (I'm) just giving a bit of meaning as to why, now.

Could this be a modern day koan? haaha
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Oct 11, 2008 5:16 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty45: Galactic, have you noticed our pics. We seem to be losing our definitive lines of our 'self'.

My pics are light by choice but (I'm) just giving a bit of meaning as to why, now.

Could this be a modern day koan? haaha


Yes, really does art imitate life or life imitate art.

The phrase from an Ancient, I can't remember who at the moment, about fictional characters being nothing but a bag of bones in comparison to a real person. Is it perhaps that our version of reality is nothing but verisimilitude of a higher order? Who's story am I really telling?

What is the world of anger but that of ego? It says in the lotus sutra that in the latter day of the law people will eat dust and convince themselves of its worth...and then I look at the ingredients in a lot of groceries nowdays...we truly do live in Neverland...doh
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Oct 11, 2008 5:19 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
I belive there is an eternal information, energy, knowledge base that retains all that is and ever

will be needed. No way to prove my belief of quantum leap advancement in evolution, but, it is my

belief that all and any information will be supplied regardless. That is why (if only I could maintain

for myself my belief of this), All Master teachers from every age have advised us to not be in any kind of

fear.
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Oct 11, 2008 8:22 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Dusty45: I belive there is an eternal information, energy, knowledge base that retains all that is and ever

will be needed. No way to prove my belief of quantum leap advancement in evolution, but, it is my

belief that all and any information will be supplied regardless. That is why (if only I could maintain

for myself my belief of this), All Master teachers from every age have advised us to not be in any kind of

fear.


Actually the thought itself creates the reality, if quantum theory is to be believed. Nothing is impossible...
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Oct 11, 2008 9:43 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Actually the thought itself creates the reality, if quantum theory is to be believed. Nothing is impossible...


I'm reading from Dr. Deepak Chopra's book, The Book of Secrets
where he states:

"The entire universe since the Big Bang behaves the way it does in order to conform to the human nervous system. If we could experience the cosmos any other way, it would be a different cosmos. The universe is lightless to a blind cave fish, which has evolved to exclude anything visual. The universe has no sound to an amoeba, no taste to a tree, no smell to a snail. Each creature selects it own range of manifestation according to it own range of potential.

The force of evolution is infinite, but it can work only with what the observer brings to it. A mind closed off to love, for example, will look out on a loveless world and be immune to any evidence of love, while an open mind will look out on that same world and find infinite expressions of love.

If our boundaries told the whole story, evolution could never break through them. This is where quantum leaps come in. Every observer creates a version of reality that is bound up in certain meanings and energies. As long as these meanings seem valid, the energies hold the picture together. But when the observer wants to see something new, meaning collapses, energies combine in a new way, and the world takes a quantum leap. The leap occurs on the visible plane when the switch is 'on', but was prepared in the invisible domain when the switch was 'off.' "
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Oct 11, 2008 10:36 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...


I do that already. I was overseas recently. Went into a bookshop, and bought a stack of books and had them shipped here. I had wanted a whole stack more, but it was going to cost me a small fortune! I also bought several others to take on the flight back with me...

They arrived before I did, btw!
thumbs up
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Oct 11, 2008 11:52 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
Aries01: "Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh."

The separate destinies of the Church and Israel, a belief which is inherent in dispensationalism is a particular concern to some Jews and to some evangelical Christians. Evangelicals who reject dispensationalism, such as those who hold to a Post Tribulation Rapture, (or more accurately a Post Tribulation Resurrection-Rapture), see both the Church and Israel entering the crucible of the End Time together. These Traditional Pre-Millennialists, as they are called, reject dispensationalism and its end time eschatology as setting forth a dubious eschatology of an "apartheid of the Elect". They consider the dispensationalist doctrine of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture to be self-serving and highly unlikely to be the true last days policy of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Traditional Pre-Millennialists see all the covenant people of the God of Israel being refined together in the crucible of the end time. They also see the "royal priesthood and holy nation" referred to by Moses and by the Apostle Peter being unveiled in the Apocalypse as a single remnant Elect drawn out from Israel and from the wider Church in the nations.

Just to many coinidences to completely ignore...


I never heard of a post-tribulation rapture.

I will do some research about this. Thank you for the post Aries.
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Oct 12, 2008 12:59 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Three quarters of the works of Archimedes were completely lost in the libraries of Alexandria. Some of his works are rumored to be comparable to our technologies today, such as the laser and the sidereal clock...mumbling Imagine all that may have been lost...it makes me physically barf
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Oct 24, 2008 9:49 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
lorax111
lorax111lorax111richmond, Virginia USA22 Threads 2 Polls 1,002 Posts
mylifewithu: I think the computer that the government has thats named Magog and serial numbers containing 666 is the beast, the day will come when all are channeled thru it and it is stricken with a virus or goes haywire, and everything goes down, power, water, banks, stores, stockmarket etc. Then we are doomed for most of us live in a concrete world we would be lucky to catch enough rats, birds and squirrels to live on. And no water we won't last long anyway.



The first apple model was version 666,,,,



Dennis
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Oct 24, 2008 10:01 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
lorax111
lorax111lorax111richmond, Virginia USA22 Threads 2 Polls 1,002 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...


The more parts a system has the greater the likleyhood that one part will malfunction, thats simple math. Like buying 400million loto tickets increaseses the odds over buying just one.


Dennis
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Oct 24, 2008 10:39 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
lorax111: Dennis


Dennis, may I ask why you always end your post with your name? I really don't care, but it intrigues me. I know one other member who does the same thing...and he is a male as well. I'm just curious as an observer and what to get a sense of this. Yes, it seems funny to me, but like I said, it does not bother be nor do you bother me.

Tonylaugh
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Oct 25, 2008 2:29 AM CST Bibliophiles unite
lorax111
lorax111lorax111richmond, Virginia USA22 Threads 2 Polls 1,002 Posts
StressFree: Dennis, may I ask why you always end your post with your name? I really don't care, but it intrigues me. I know one other member who does the same thing...and he is a male as well. I'm just curious as an observer and what to get a sense of this. Yes, it seems funny to me, but like I said, it does not bother be nor do you bother me.

Tony



It just seems proper to end a corrospondence with my name, sure i'm not adding 'with love' or 'sincerly' but not signing just feals wrong.


Dennis
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Oct 25, 2008 3:20 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
lorax111: The first apple model was version 666,,,,
Dennis


Are you sure about that? I have worked with Apple since around 1979, Can't say I remember that one

I know Steve Wozniak constructed several computers prior to the Apple I , but had always thought they were prefaced by the processor number such as 6502, would love to have some more info.
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Oct 25, 2008 3:29 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Destruction of the Library of Alexandria

Ancient and modern sources identify four possible occasions for the destruction of the Library:

Julius Caesar's Fire in The Alexandrian War, in 48 BC
The attack of Aurelian in the Third century AD;
The decree of Theophilus in 391 AD;
The Muslim conquest in 642 AD or thereafter.

It's obvious that great centers of knowledge will become targets...that's why knowledge has been keep esoteric in the past, and why it should be in the future. Those who know will get things done, so they will be in charge after superstition and pseudo-science again take man back into the dark ages again...
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Oct 25, 2008 5:39 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...


I started collecting books a long time ago. I have literally had to give away bookcases full of them or I would have them stacked all over the place with hardly any space to walk. I had to do it again after my husband died...there are still boxes in the attic to go through of them. We started taking them to Half Priced Books when he was alive, or we would have been buried in them! laugh Nope...I don't need to start collecting them! tongue
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Oct 25, 2008 5:41 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland10 Threads 5,879 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Skills need to preserved in the coming years...

We all depend on our computers too much anymore. Studies show that the more complex a system is, the more likely it is to break down. It's simply chaos math applied to reality, based on man's drive to sophistication and nature and entropy's drive toward simplicity. So start collecting books people. Google is the number of the Beast...

yes I have heard that theory ,
that the web is evil ,
instead of it being a charasmatic person , reaching billions of poeple ,
that it is the web devil devil devil
sad
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Oct 25, 2008 5:49 PM CST Bibliophiles unite
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Dusty45: I belive there is an eternal information, energy, knowledge base that retains all that is and ever

will be needed. No way to prove my belief of quantum leap advancement in evolution, but, it is my

belief that all and any information will be supplied regardless. That is why (if only I could maintain

for myself my belief of this), All Master teachers from every age have advised us to not be in any kind of

fear.


I agree...all of the knowledge that is truly necessary to us will remain...even if we as a species do not.
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