patrickthomas: Looking back at the election of GWB, there is way too many unanswered questions over the results! In particular the States that used electronic voting.
It comes down to: Algore couldn't carry his home state. He would have won.
patrickthomas: The UK are planning on introducing it, It is a fairer (Democratic) system.
I have to agree. Seems a hame when a Presidential nominee wins the majority of the popular vote yet still wins the election. I think the electoral college has outlived it's usfulness.
Sparky55: I have to agree. Seems a hame shame when a Presidential nominee wins the majority of the popular vote yet still wins the election. I think the electoral college has outlived it's usfulness.
Sparky55: I have to agree. Seems a hame when a Presidential nominee wins the majority of the popular vote yet still wins the election. I think the electoral college has outlived it's usfulness.
Indyfella: There was a reason the founding fathers set up the electoral college.
And it is no longer useful. We live in an age of instant communication now so why appoint someone to vote for us. We should do away with the middle man. People who live in States like CA and MA and vote Republican are throwing their vote away under the current system.
Don216: And it is no longer useful. We live in an age of instant communication now so why appoint someone to vote for us. We should do away with the middle man. People who live in States like CA and MA and vote Republican are throwing their vote away under the current system.
The same problems were documented across the nation last election. And all the mistakes the machines made magically favored Bush.
Walden W. O'Dell, the chief executive of Premier Election Solutions, formerly Diebold Election Systems, , is a longtime Republican, he is a member of President Bush's ''Rangers and Pioneers,'' an elite group of loyalists who have raised at least $100,000 each for the 2004 race.
Some people find Mr. O'Dell's pairing of interests, as voting-machine magnate and devoted Republican fund-raiser troubling...Gee, the Republicans did not just have the most corrupt 8 years in America's history. Nevermind all the corrupted scandals (would take up this whole page listing them), but Republicans are honest people. They are not cheaters and have never been accused of voter fraud. Just look how awesome America and the world is right now with 8 years of Republican rule.
Anyways, here....it's all there with links to all kinds of different sources. Search is your friend.
Here is some more entertainment pulled from wiki. And feel free to click on the numbers that appear next to some of the words...it links to the news source for those of you who are not on a first name basis with Wiki....
According to Democratic attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.:
But what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt John Kerry and benefited George Bush. After carefully examining the evidence, I've become convinced that the president's party mounted a massive, coordinated campaign to subvert the will of the people in 2004. Across the country, Republican election officials and party stalwarts employed a wide range of illegal and unethical tactics to fix the election. A review of the available data reveals that in Ohio alone, at least 357,000 voters, the overwhelming majority of them Democratic, were prevented from casting ballots or did not have their votes counted in 2004 -- more than enough to shift the results of an election decided by 118,601 votes. ... In what may be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots. And that doesn’t even take into account the troubling evidence of outright fraud, which indicates that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry were counted instead for Bush. That alone is a swing of more than 160,000 votes -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.
One more time:
Aside from such official actions, there were disputes about other voter registration activities. In Nevada and Oregon, a company hired by the Republican National Committee solicited voter registration forms, but was accused of filing only the Republicans’ forms and shredding those completed by Democrats. A nonprofit organization, ACORN, was accused of submitting false voter registration forms and of carelessly or deliberately failing to submit some valid ones that it had received.
StressFree: Here we go again with these "malfunctions".
The same problems were documented across the nation last election. And all the mistakes the machines made magically favored Bush.
Walden W. O'Dell, the chief executive of Premier Election Solutions, formerly Diebold Election Systems, , is a longtime Republican, he is a member of President Bush's ''Rangers and Pioneers,'' an elite group of loyalists who have raised at least $100,000 each for the 2004 race.
Some people find Mr. O'Dell's pairing of interests, as voting-machine magnate and devoted Republican fund-raiser troubling...Gee, the Republicans did not just have the most corrupt 8 years in America's history. Nevermind all the corrupted scandals (would take up this whole page listing them), but Republicans are honest people. They are not cheaters and have never been accused of voter fraud. Just look how awesome America and the world is right now with 8 years of Republican rule.
Anyways, here....it's all there with links to all kinds of different sources. Search is your friend.
Here is some more entertainment pulled from wiki. And feel free to click on the numbers that appear next to some of the words...it links to the news source for those of you who are not on a first name basis with Wiki....According to Democratic attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.:
But what is most anomalous about the irregularities in 2004 was their decidedly partisan bent: Almost without exception they hurt John Kerry and benefited George Bush. After carefully examining the evidence, I've become convinced that the president's party mounted a massive, coordinated campaign to subvert the will of the people in 2004. Across the country, Republican election officials and party stalwarts employed a wide range of illegal and unethical tactics to fix the election. A review of the available data reveals that in Ohio alone, at least 357,000 voters, the overwhelming majority of them Democratic, were prevented from casting ballots or did not have their votes counted in 2004 -- more than enough to shift the results of an election decided by 118,601 votes. ... In what may be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots. And that doesn’t even take into account the troubling evidence of outright fraud, which indicates that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry were counted instead for Bush. That alone is a swing of more than 160,000 votes -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.
One more time :
Aside from such official actions, there were disputes about other voter registration activities. In Nevada and Oregon, a company hired by the Republican National Committee solicited voter registration forms, but was accused of filing only the Republicans’ forms and shredding those completed by Democrats. A nonprofit organization, ACORN, was accused of submitting false voter registration forms and of carelessly or deliberately failing to submit some valid ones that it had received.
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It comes down to: Algore couldn't carry his home state. He would have won.