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guiriman: maybe - or maybe it's just me asking if the reason we get a bad conscience is that we are scared we might get caught.
It sounds like you dont have much faith in people
dont you believe people have an inert knowledge of natural law and an inner recognition of the evils of breaking that law....??
ghost007: It sounds like you dont have much faith in people dont you believe people have an inert knowledge of natural law and an inner recognition of the evils of breaking that law....??
if it's an honest question, no I don't . if you mean am I really so stupid, yes I am....
guiriman: if it's an honest question, no I don't . if you mean am I really so stupid, yes I am....
I sympathise completely......i used to trust people uncondtionally when i was younger ..then when life really kicked in ...i started to trust no one,,,,,but then you realise that you cant live like that ....in order to live you have to take leaps of faith and believe .......the act in itself makes us alive ..otherwise you start to die..so now .....i still remain suspicious but sometime i just behave really stupidly and i leap ...
hasagoodheart: In the case of a sinking ship, its children first because they deserve the chance to live out their lifes (adults have already lived a good bit of theirs). Then women because in all honesty children need there mums more than their fathers.
Thats a falsehood..they(kids) need their pops just as much...
hasagoodheart: In the case of a sinking ship, its children first because they deserve the chance to live out their lifes (adults have already lived a good bit of theirs). Then women because in all honesty children need there mums more than their fathers.
Ah, finally someone who said what I was waiting for:
italic "they deserve the chance to live out their lifes"
Thats what I have been told
way back when I asked my mum, while watching Titanic on telly.
Ulimaroa: in case of an emergency,
i.e. ship sinking, fire, catastrophe
children be saved first?"
i.e. ship sinking, fire, catastrophe
children be saved first?"
---survival of the species
CuspofMagic: ---survival of the species
But thats the point... its survival of the fittest, and
children cant survive on their own.
Ulimaroa: But thats the point... its survival of the fittest, and
children cant survive on their own.
children cant survive on their own.
Yes ok Uli ---so they get chaparoned by the strongest person
male or female but most probably the female which is strongest --- cause they're a great all rounder
Now of course if you specified the end of the world was nigh--- lets say in two weeks --- i'm sure there would be a hell of a lot of satellites with selected DNA being -- shot laugh: into the heveans -- a little like ---mmmh you know
Well, maybe only SOME creatures, human OR animal have this instinct - in different doses of strength?
Some parents neglect their children, and some parents protect their children.
Some animals do the same - actually most animals do this - with only a few aberations.
I used to observe the animals on my farm - concerning this instinct, and it was fascinating! How a mother hen protected not only her own chickens, but ANY small chickens - almost fearlessly - facing up to a predator with the certain (?) knowledge that she would not survive - but she just naturally proceeded to protect the little ones first? And the Roosters would do the same to protect the Hens!
...... and then I saw my little Jack Russell female guard her young against another dog about 20x her size with absolute ferociousness and terrible fear regardless of the outcome - as long as her pups were behind her, and safe. ... Yet another female would have no interest in her pups, happily handing them over to another to feed and nurture....... Much the same as some humans?
I`ve known of parents who`ve tried to save their children from drowning in the sea - uselessly - as they all drowned in the end. But they obviously could not just stand and watch their kids being carried out to sea.
Our base instinct, I think, is to nurture our young and the weak, and to protect them. But some of us are cowards and fail to do this. Being human, we are not perfect? Even some animals are not "perfect".
Some parents neglect their children, and some parents protect their children.
Some animals do the same - actually most animals do this - with only a few aberations.
I used to observe the animals on my farm - concerning this instinct, and it was fascinating! How a mother hen protected not only her own chickens, but ANY small chickens - almost fearlessly - facing up to a predator with the certain (?) knowledge that she would not survive - but she just naturally proceeded to protect the little ones first? And the Roosters would do the same to protect the Hens!
...... and then I saw my little Jack Russell female guard her young against another dog about 20x her size with absolute ferociousness and terrible fear regardless of the outcome - as long as her pups were behind her, and safe. ... Yet another female would have no interest in her pups, happily handing them over to another to feed and nurture....... Much the same as some humans?
I`ve known of parents who`ve tried to save their children from drowning in the sea - uselessly - as they all drowned in the end. But they obviously could not just stand and watch their kids being carried out to sea.
Our base instinct, I think, is to nurture our young and the weak, and to protect them. But some of us are cowards and fail to do this. Being human, we are not perfect? Even some animals are not "perfect".
Yes children do have the fundamental right to live out there lives, or at least to the point of adulthood when they are also faced with a similar situation. Please note irony plays a wistful game.
As for the old text book quote of natural instinct of survival it’s somewhat out dated. Too much comfortable living & disposable lifestyle has stripped many of the survival instinct, and certain Huxley would be laughing in his grave saying … I told you so.
As for the process of natural of selection, yes we do have a degree of control concerning the process of our survival, but at the end of the day nature holds the balance of power for that final decision.
Hola de los Países Bajos Ulimaroa
As for the old text book quote of natural instinct of survival it’s somewhat out dated. Too much comfortable living & disposable lifestyle has stripped many of the survival instinct, and certain Huxley would be laughing in his grave saying … I told you so.
As for the process of natural of selection, yes we do have a degree of control concerning the process of our survival, but at the end of the day nature holds the balance of power for that final decision.
Hola de los Países Bajos Ulimaroa
I look at it like this.
Of course children deserve to have their life.
But, I do see this.
When we are on a plane, who should put the oxygen mask on first?
Not the children.
Us, the adults.
Why?
If we all perished, who, would help them?
Of course children deserve to have their life.
But, I do see this.
When we are on a plane, who should put the oxygen mask on first?
Not the children.
Us, the adults.
Why?
If we all perished, who, would help them?
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maybe - or maybe it's just me asking if the reason we get a bad conscience is that we are scared we might get caught.