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Hi Uli...

I'm sure there are many angles to how we may each see this. Survival is 'intuitive' even if we have little personal knowledge or experience of a catastrophe that would call upon our intuitive animal instinct to flee or defend.

Strictly a moral issue, if we have children, or in a responsible position for the health and well-being for children in our care and have a social survival respect for others.
As we share this existence, those amongst us that have little knowledge or experience with the many dangers that are possible as our environment shifts around us Those of us with compassion and a connection to the daily experience of Life the highs and lows, would extend every opportunity to save another Human from fear and danger… ‘my opinion only’

The following regarding
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child
How interesting that amongst others, the United States have not ratified this most basic understanding that Children have rights… Social / Moral / existence !!!!!

The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, often referred to as CRC or UNCRC, is an international convention setting out the civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of children. Nations that ratify this international convention are bound by it by international law. Compliance is monitored by the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child which is composed of members from countries around the world. Once a year, the Committee submits a report to the Third Committee of the United Nations General Assembly, which also hears a statement from the CRC Chair, and the Assembly adopts a Resolution on the Rights of the Child.
Governments of countries that have ratified the Convention are required to report to, and appear before, the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child periodically to be examined on their progress with regards to the advancement of the implementation of the Convention and the status of child rights in their country. Their reports and the committee's written views and concerns are available on the committee's website.
The United Nations General Assembly adopted the Convention and opened it for signature on 20 November 1989 (the 30th anniversary of its Declaration of the Rights of the Child). It came into force on 2 September 1990, after it was ratified by the required number of nations. All member nation states (countries) of the United Nations, except the United States and Somalia, have ratified it.
The Convention generally defines a child as any person under the age of 18, unless an earlier age of majority is recognised by a country's law.

Hmm I admit that that is a tough one but can you imagine being on a sinking getting on a boat and leaving a four year old behind ......even one you have never met before ........I guess it is possible.... the only problem then is how on earth do you live with yourself afterwards it would probably haunt you for the rest of your life ....a bit life the Lord Jim syndrom a book by Conrad about a sailor ..a captain who deserts his sinking ship in a moment of fear and cannot live with the knoweledge of his own cowardice.......ahd how short he sold himself..........

In the case of a sinking ship, its children first because they deserve the chance to live out their lifes (adults have already lived a good bit of theirs). Then women because in all honesty children need there mums more than their fathers.

interesting. so in the end, it's our conscience and fear of what others may think of us if they found out what we had done rather than any desire to further the human race. Do you think animals would be subjected to a similar torturous future if they didn't save their young from a burning building?

hi hasagoodheart

what if one of the adults was an important politician influential in the lives of millions of people? Do you think his or her lose would be justified in saving a four yeal old who might possibly grow up to be a criminal? You also state that children automatically need their mothers more than their fathers - does that mean you think women should stay at home and look after them while the father goes to work?

hi Paolo, I agree that it seems a bit strange that the US hasn't ratified this convention. could you explain their reasons for not doing so?

more to do with the lack of need due to already existing law than any sinister desire to strip children of rights it seems from this link

Hi Guriman i dont agree with you here....many individuals can be tortured by a consciousness of what they have done even if no one knows about it ...and may never know about it...after all in the end ....we have to live with ourselves and falling short of what we expect of ourselves is the worst torture rather than what other people think..........as one famous play write once said " we are the measure of all things"

you believe in an existance outside of the minds of others I see .