The Stuff Your Church Never Tells You About........... ( Archived) (207)

druidess6308: Thank you. I know quite a bit about what was decided at the Nicean council, but didn't know this part. Cool!

I did know that it was there that it was decided that Christ was divine, and that subsequently many changes were made to the books.

All of this is why I can't consider it a "holy" book...and this just added to that feeling.

Awesome post, Trish!

BnaturAl: This is the part I choose to come in on of an essay which was originally published in Nexus Magaxine last year..........

At the end of that time, Constantine returned to the gathering to discover that the presbyters had not agreed on a new deity but had balloted down to a shortlist of five prospects: Caesar, Krishna, Mithra, Horus and Zeus (Historia Ecclesiastica, Eusebius, c. 325). Constantine was the ruling spirit at Nicaea and he ultimately decided upon a new god for them.

That abstraction lent Earthly existence to amalgamated doctrines for the Empire's new religion.How the Gospels were created

Constantine then instructed Eusebius to organise the compilation of a uniform collection of new writings developed from primary aspects of the religious texts submitted at the council. His instructions were:

"Make them to astonish" said Constantine, and "the books were written accordingly" (Life of Constantine, vol. iv, pp. 36-39).

Eusebius amalgamated the "legendary tales of all the religious doctrines of the world together as one", using the standard god-myths from the presbyters' manuscripts as his exemplars.

Merging the supernatural "god" stories of Mithra and Krishna with British Culdean beliefs effectively joined the orations of Eastern and Western presbyters together "to form a new universal belief" (ibid.). Constantine believed that the amalgamated collection of myths would unite variant and opposing religious factions under one representative story.

Eusebius then arranged for scribes to produce "fifty sumptuous copies ... to be written on parchment in a legible manner, and in a convenient portable form, by professional scribes thoroughly accomplished in their art" (ibid.). "These orders," said Eusebius, "were followed by the immediate execution of the work itself ... we sent him

Josephus's inclusion in this travesty is no small part. Josephus was a jew, who led the Jews in their fight against the Romans, long after the so called christ was already dead and risen (yaya BS) . He as leader, however, made a deal to stop the war on conditons provided by the the Roman Empire.

All through history, the stories and parables that began in Sumar were stolen, or adopted by the Empire that ruled that time. However before Rome used the stories, all other Empires used saviors that were national, the Persians used persian saviors and gods, the Egyptians used Egyptian saviours and gods ... but , when we get to the Romans, they used a Jewish saviour

Not so confusing really, the Romans could careless what nationality the savior was, they knew it was BS from the start anyway. So, enter Josephus, a jew, who takes a Roman name after being the leader of the Jewish forces, is given liberal funds to edit the bible, change the names within the faerie tale, to reflect jewish names and make some promises that will happen for the jews many many years later, promising that the jews will get their place in heaven, yada yada. Odd they would do that and then make it the property of the Roman Catholic Church, governing body of the jewish faery tale Not odd really , power mongers will do that as long as they keep the power, you can have any dreams and fantasies you want.

CrosstownTraffic: Now the way you lot are talking, I am starting to get worried!............... Does this mean "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was made up too??

littlewolf: There is a forum on ,that asks the question,why are people not on the forums?For me the answer is this forum.I, for one am tired of being ignored on decent forums and acknowledged as a ignorant twit because I am a christian.The majority of us as christians can read,we are educated,and can sure think for ourselves.So why the purpose for these kinds of forums???EXACTLY!Have fun.