Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates (32)
HealthyLiving: Well, I wasn't sure either!!!
I received this in an email and thought it would be interesting to post, since I had not heard of the Incan calendar. Actually, I thought they were mistaken and I changed it to Mayan, but changed it back to Incan before posting it. Thanks for researching it for us!!
I received this in an email and thought it would be interesting to post, since I had not heard of the Incan calendar. Actually, I thought they were mistaken and I changed it to Mayan, but changed it back to Incan before posting it. Thanks for researching it for us!!
No probs...
Here is a good explanation of the Mayan Calendar then:
The Mayan Calendar
Among their other accomplishments, the ancient Mayas invented a calendar of remarkable accuracy and complexity. At right is the ancient Mayan Pyramid Chichen Itza, Yucatan, Mexico. The Pyramid of Kukulkan at Chichén Itzá, constructed circa 1050 was built during the late Mayan period, when Toltecs from Tula became politically powerful. The pyramid was used as a calendar: four stairways, each with 91 steps and a platform at the top, making a total of 365, equivalent to the number of days in a calendar year.
The Maya calendar was adopted by the other Mesoamerican nations, such as the Aztecs and the Toltec, which adopted the mechanics of the calendar unaltered but changed the names of the days of the week and the months. An Aztec calendar stone is shown at right (below).
The Maya calendar uses three different dating systems in parallel, the Long Count, the Tzolkin (divine calendar), and the Haab (civil calendar). Of these, only the Haab has a direct relationship to the length of the year.
A typical Mayan date looks like this: 12.18.16.2.6, 3 Cimi 4 Zotz.
12.18.16.2.6 is the Long Count date.
3 Cimi is the Tzolkin date.
4 Zotz is the Haab date.
What is the Long Count?
When did the Long Count Start?
What is the Tzolkin?
When did the Tzolkin Start?
What is the Haab?
When did the Haab Start?
Did the Mayas Think a Year Was 365 Days?
What is the Long Count?
The Long Count is really a mixed base-20/base-18 representation of a number, representing the number of days since the start of the Mayan era. It is thus akin to the Julian Day Number.
The basic unit is the kin (day), which is the last component of the Long Count. Going from right to left the remaining components are:
uinal (1 uinal = 20 kin = 20 days)
tun (1 tun = 18 uinal = 360 days = approx. 1 year)
katun (1 katun = 20 tun = 7,200 days = approx. 20 years)
baktun (1 baktun = 20 katun = 144,000 days = approx. 394 years)
The kin, tun, and katun are numbered from 0 to 19.
The uinal are numbered from 0 to 17.
The baktun are numbered from 1 to 13.
Although they are not part of the Long Count, the Mayas had names for larger time spans. The following names are sometimes quoted, although they are not ancient Maya terms: 1 pictun = 20 baktun= 2,880,000 days = approx. 7885 years
1 calabtun = 20 pictun = 57,600,000 days = approx. 158,000 years
1 kinchiltun = 20 calabtun = 1,152,000,000 days = approx. 3 million years
1 alautun = 20 kinchiltun = 23,040,000,000 days = approx. 63 million years
The alautun is probably the longest named period in any calendar.
When did the Long Count Start?
Logically, the first date in the Long Count should be 0.0.0.0.0, but as the baktun (the first component) are numbered from 1 to 13 rather than 0 to 12, this first date is actually written 13.0.0.0.0.
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StressFree: Supposedly a dimensional shift according to the Mayans...A new earth according to the bible (Rev. 21-22)
Some will move with the vibrational shift, and some will be left behind.
Paradigm shift if you will...a new and faster vibration that we are moving into.
Just reporting....you decide. The Force has decided to come back to me tonight.
The universe is a highly complex organism living in many dimensions at the same time, composed of layers and layers of consciousness relating to all other organisms within it. It has the power to create and relate to all of these at the same time individually as in the collective stream. Seems like we are on a collective path of thinking certain things into existence by intent.
Total eclipse of the heart or the sound of your/our soul?
And if you have a tailbone (I don't), shame on you damn you hybrid reptilians/homosapiens.
Some will move with the vibrational shift, and some will be left behind.
Paradigm shift if you will...a new and faster vibration that we are moving into.
Just reporting....you decide. The Force has decided to come back to me tonight.
The universe is a highly complex organism living in many dimensions at the same time, composed of layers and layers of consciousness relating to all other organisms within it. It has the power to create and relate to all of these at the same time individually as in the collective stream. Seems like we are on a collective path of thinking certain things into existence by intent.
Total eclipse of the heart or the sound of your/our soul?
And if you have a tailbone (I don't), shame on you damn you hybrid reptilians/homosapiens.
Hi Tony!
Yes, I have read about this, concerning Mayan beliefs. I believe this is highly possible. Hey, I'm just here for the ride! Continuing into another dimension, new beginings, exactly what I am looking forward to! Seems there is much scientific evidence pointing to something such as this happening, with the lineup of the planets and the sun, etc. Black hole and such.
I know I am only wearing this earthsuit for a short part of the journey.
It will be great to shed it! And no, I have no reptillian body within. Although I have had dreams where I am underwater and breathing, not drowning and had no fear. Always wondered what that ment.
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The authorities disagree on what 13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to in our calendar. I have come across three possible equivalences:
13.0.0.0.0 = 8 Sep 3114 BC (Julian) = 13 Aug 3114 BC (Gregorian)
13.0.0.0.0 = 6 Sep 3114 BC (Julian) = 11 Aug 3114 BC (Gregorian)
13.0.0.0.0 = 11 Nov 3374 BC (Julian) = 15 Oct 3374 BC (Gregorian)
Assuming one of the first two equivalences, the Long Count will again reach 13.0.0.0.0 on 21 or 23 December AD 2012 - a not too distant future.
The date 13.0.0.0.0 may have been the Mayas' idea of the date of the creation of the world.
What is the Tzolkin?
The Tzolkin date is a combination of two "week" lengths.
While our calendar uses a single week of seven days, the Mayan calendar used two different lengths of week:
o a numbered week of 13 days, in which the days were numbered from 1 to 13
o a named week of 20 days, in which the names of the days were:
0. Ahau 1. Imix 2. Ik 3. Akbal 4. Kan
5. Chicchan 6. Cimi 7. Manik 8. Lamat 9. Muluc
10. Oc 11. Chuen 12. Eb 13. Ben 14. Ix
15. Men 16. Cib 17. Caban 18. Etznab 19. Caunac
The diagram at right shows the day symbols, in the same order as the table above.
As the named week is 20 days and the smallest Long Count digit is 20 days, there is synchrony between the two; if, for example, the last digit of today's Long Count is 0, today must be Ahau; if it is 6, it must be Cimi. Since the numbered and the named week were both "weeks," each of their name/number change daily; therefore, the day after 3 Cimi is not 4 Cimi, but 4 Manik, and the day after that, 5 Lamat. The next time Cimi rolls around, 20 days later, it will be 10 Cimi instead of 3 Cimi. The next 3 Cimi will not occur until 260 (or 13 x 20) days have passed. This 260-day cycle also had good-luck or bad-luck associations connected with each day, and for this reason, it became known as the "divinatory year."
The "years" of the Tzolkin calendar are not counted.
When did the Tzolkin Start?
Long Count 13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to 4 Ahau. The authorities agree on this.
What is the Haab?
The Haab was the civil calendar of the Mayas. It consisted of 18 "months" of 20 days each, followed by 5 extra days, known as Uayeb. This gives a year length of 365 days.
The names of the month were:
1. Pop 7. Yaxkin 13. Mac
2. Uo 8. Mol 14. Kankin
3. Zip 9. Chen 15. Muan
4. Zotz 10. Yax 16. Pax
5. Tzec 11. Zac 17. Kayab
6. Xul 12. Ceh 18. Cumku
In contrast to the Tzolkin dates, the Haab month names changed every 20 days instead of daily; so the day after 4 Zotz would be 5 Zotz, followed by 6 Zotz ... up to 19 Zotz, which is followed by 0 Tzec.
(Cont'd)....
13.0.0.0.0 = 8 Sep 3114 BC (Julian) = 13 Aug 3114 BC (Gregorian)
13.0.0.0.0 = 6 Sep 3114 BC (Julian) = 11 Aug 3114 BC (Gregorian)
13.0.0.0.0 = 11 Nov 3374 BC (Julian) = 15 Oct 3374 BC (Gregorian)
Assuming one of the first two equivalences, the Long Count will again reach 13.0.0.0.0 on 21 or 23 December AD 2012 - a not too distant future.
The date 13.0.0.0.0 may have been the Mayas' idea of the date of the creation of the world.
What is the Tzolkin?
The Tzolkin date is a combination of two "week" lengths.
While our calendar uses a single week of seven days, the Mayan calendar used two different lengths of week:
o a numbered week of 13 days, in which the days were numbered from 1 to 13
o a named week of 20 days, in which the names of the days were:
0. Ahau 1. Imix 2. Ik 3. Akbal 4. Kan
5. Chicchan 6. Cimi 7. Manik 8. Lamat 9. Muluc
10. Oc 11. Chuen 12. Eb 13. Ben 14. Ix
15. Men 16. Cib 17. Caban 18. Etznab 19. Caunac
The diagram at right shows the day symbols, in the same order as the table above.
As the named week is 20 days and the smallest Long Count digit is 20 days, there is synchrony between the two; if, for example, the last digit of today's Long Count is 0, today must be Ahau; if it is 6, it must be Cimi. Since the numbered and the named week were both "weeks," each of their name/number change daily; therefore, the day after 3 Cimi is not 4 Cimi, but 4 Manik, and the day after that, 5 Lamat. The next time Cimi rolls around, 20 days later, it will be 10 Cimi instead of 3 Cimi. The next 3 Cimi will not occur until 260 (or 13 x 20) days have passed. This 260-day cycle also had good-luck or bad-luck associations connected with each day, and for this reason, it became known as the "divinatory year."
The "years" of the Tzolkin calendar are not counted.
When did the Tzolkin Start?
Long Count 13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to 4 Ahau. The authorities agree on this.
What is the Haab?
The Haab was the civil calendar of the Mayas. It consisted of 18 "months" of 20 days each, followed by 5 extra days, known as Uayeb. This gives a year length of 365 days.
The names of the month were:
1. Pop 7. Yaxkin 13. Mac
2. Uo 8. Mol 14. Kankin
3. Zip 9. Chen 15. Muan
4. Zotz 10. Yax 16. Pax
5. Tzec 11. Zac 17. Kayab
6. Xul 12. Ceh 18. Cumku
In contrast to the Tzolkin dates, the Haab month names changed every 20 days instead of daily; so the day after 4 Zotz would be 5 Zotz, followed by 6 Zotz ... up to 19 Zotz, which is followed by 0 Tzec.
(Cont'd)....
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The days of the month were numbered from 0 to 19. This use of a 0th day of the month in a civil calendar is unique to the Maya system; it is believed that the Mayas discovered the number zero, and the uses to which it could be put, centuries before it was discovered in Europe or Asia.
The Uayeb days acquired a very derogatory reputation for bad luck; known as "days without names" or "days without souls," and were observed as days of prayer and mourning. Fires were extinguished and the population refrained from eating hot food. Anyone born on those days was "doomed to a miserable life."
The years of the Haab calendar are not counted.
The length of the Tzolkin year was 260 days and the length of the Haab year was 365 days. The smallest number that can be divided evenly by 260 and 365 is 18,980, or 365×52; this was known as the Calendar Round. If a day is, for example, "4 Ahau 8 Cumku," the next day falling on "4 Ahau 8 Cumku" would be 18,980 days or about 52 years later. Among the Aztec, the end of a Calendar Round was a time of public panic as it was thought the world might be coming to an end. When the Pleaides crossed the horizon on 4 Ahau 8 Cumku, they knew the world had been granted another 52-year extension.
b]When did the Haab Start?
Long Count 13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to 8 Cumku. The authorities agree on this.
Did the Mayas Think a Year Was 365 Days?
Although there were only 365 days in the Haab year, the Mayas were aware that a year is slightly longer than 365 days, and in fact, many of the month-names are associated with the seasons; Yaxkin, for example, means "new or strong sun" and, at the beginning of the Long Count, 1 Yaxkin was the day after the winter solstice, when the sun starts to shine for a longer period of time and higher in the sky. When the Long Count was put into motion, it was started at 7.13.0.0.0, and 0 Yaxkin corresponded with Midwinter Day, as it did at 13.0.0.0.0 back in 3114 B.C.E. The available evidence indicates that the Mayas estimated that a 365-day year precessed through all the seasons twice in 7.13.0.0.0 or 1,101,600 days.
We can therefore derive a value for the Mayan estimate of the year by dividing 1,101,600 by 365, subtracting 2, and taking that number and dividing 1,101,600 by the result, which gives us an answer of 365.242036 days, which is slightly more accurate than the 365.2425 days of the Gregorian calendar.
(This apparent accuracy could, however, be a simple coincidence. The Mayas estimated that a 365-day year precessed through all the seasons twice in 7.13.0.0.0 days. These numbers are only accurate to 2-3 digits. Suppose the 7.13.0.0.0 days had corresponded to 2.001 cycles rather than 2 cycles of the 365-day year, would the Mayas have noticed?)
In ancient times, the Mayans had a tradition of a 360-day year. But by the 4th century B.C.E. they took a different approach than either Europeans or Asians. They maintained three different calendars at the same time. In one of them, they divided a 365-day year into eighteen 20-day months followed by a five-day period that was part of no month. The five-day period was considered to be unlucky.
The end of the world idea actually came from the Aztecs who adopted the Mayan calendar because they thought it was the end of the world....when a calendar round came to an end....I have no idea where the year 2012 came in...BUT no I don't believe it...I believe someone read into the Mayan calender what they wanted to...based on false beliefs of what the calender actually meant....
The Uayeb days acquired a very derogatory reputation for bad luck; known as "days without names" or "days without souls," and were observed as days of prayer and mourning. Fires were extinguished and the population refrained from eating hot food. Anyone born on those days was "doomed to a miserable life."
The years of the Haab calendar are not counted.
The length of the Tzolkin year was 260 days and the length of the Haab year was 365 days. The smallest number that can be divided evenly by 260 and 365 is 18,980, or 365×52; this was known as the Calendar Round. If a day is, for example, "4 Ahau 8 Cumku," the next day falling on "4 Ahau 8 Cumku" would be 18,980 days or about 52 years later. Among the Aztec, the end of a Calendar Round was a time of public panic as it was thought the world might be coming to an end. When the Pleaides crossed the horizon on 4 Ahau 8 Cumku, they knew the world had been granted another 52-year extension.
b]When did the Haab Start?
Long Count 13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to 8 Cumku. The authorities agree on this.
Did the Mayas Think a Year Was 365 Days?
Although there were only 365 days in the Haab year, the Mayas were aware that a year is slightly longer than 365 days, and in fact, many of the month-names are associated with the seasons; Yaxkin, for example, means "new or strong sun" and, at the beginning of the Long Count, 1 Yaxkin was the day after the winter solstice, when the sun starts to shine for a longer period of time and higher in the sky. When the Long Count was put into motion, it was started at 7.13.0.0.0, and 0 Yaxkin corresponded with Midwinter Day, as it did at 13.0.0.0.0 back in 3114 B.C.E. The available evidence indicates that the Mayas estimated that a 365-day year precessed through all the seasons twice in 7.13.0.0.0 or 1,101,600 days.
We can therefore derive a value for the Mayan estimate of the year by dividing 1,101,600 by 365, subtracting 2, and taking that number and dividing 1,101,600 by the result, which gives us an answer of 365.242036 days, which is slightly more accurate than the 365.2425 days of the Gregorian calendar.
(This apparent accuracy could, however, be a simple coincidence. The Mayas estimated that a 365-day year precessed through all the seasons twice in 7.13.0.0.0 days. These numbers are only accurate to 2-3 digits. Suppose the 7.13.0.0.0 days had corresponded to 2.001 cycles rather than 2 cycles of the 365-day year, would the Mayas have noticed?)
In ancient times, the Mayans had a tradition of a 360-day year. But by the 4th century B.C.E. they took a different approach than either Europeans or Asians. They maintained three different calendars at the same time. In one of them, they divided a 365-day year into eighteen 20-day months followed by a five-day period that was part of no month. The five-day period was considered to be unlucky.
The end of the world idea actually came from the Aztecs who adopted the Mayan calendar because they thought it was the end of the world....when a calendar round came to an end....I have no idea where the year 2012 came in...BUT no I don't believe it...I believe someone read into the Mayan calender what they wanted to...based on false beliefs of what the calender actually meant....
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HealthyLiving: What if I don't want to go to the play???
Is this why actors are in Politics?
Is this why actors are in Politics?
nope its why religion and power are in politics. All you have to do is prove god, or at least his illegitimate son
all of a sudden all the christian killing and genocide becomes 'gods' desire not theirs... You can't rule a world unless you can be 'unaccountable' .. the god factor removes accountabilty, god takes the blame , so the ruler killing you, well he is just doing gods work ...I thought you read the bible
j/kIt will be interesting if Obama gets to pull the US out of Iraq ... I'm betting it doesn't happen, or they just move base next door to afghanistan
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HealthyLiving: Hi Tony!
Yes, I have read about this, concerning Mayan beliefs. I believe this is highly possible. Hey, I'm just here for the ride! Continuing into another dimension, new beginings, exactly what I am looking forward to! Seems there is much scientific evidence pointing to something such as this happening, with the lineup of the planets and the sun, etc. Black hole and such.
I know I am only wearing this earthsuit for a short part of the journey.
It will be great to shed it! And no, I have no reptillian body within. Although I have had dreams where I am underwater and breathing, not drowning and had no fear. Always wondered what that ment.
Yes, I have read about this, concerning Mayan beliefs. I believe this is highly possible. Hey, I'm just here for the ride! Continuing into another dimension, new beginings, exactly what I am looking forward to! Seems there is much scientific evidence pointing to something such as this happening, with the lineup of the planets and the sun, etc. Black hole and such.
I know I am only wearing this earthsuit for a short part of the journey.
It will be great to shed it! And no, I have no reptillian body within. Although I have had dreams where I am underwater and breathing, not drowning and had no fear. Always wondered what that ment.
It means that you are comfortable with yourself and have no problem going deep inside yourself for answers without feeling guilty or ashamed.
Water in dreams=a symbol of the subconscious. So if you're breathing underwater, then consider it a good sign.
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StressFree: It means that you are comfortable with yourself and have no problem going deep inside yourself for answers without feeling guilty or ashamed.
Water in dreams=a symbol of the subconscious. So if you're breathing underwater, then consider it a good sign.
Water in dreams=a symbol of the subconscious. So if you're breathing underwater, then consider it a good sign.
Wow! Yes, I resemble that remark! Thanks Tony! Very true!!!
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StressFree: It means that you are comfortable with yourself and have no problem going deep inside yourself for answers without feeling guilty or ashamed.
Water in dreams=a symbol of the subconscious. So if you're breathing underwater, then consider it a good sign.
no...it just means ,as a boy, he watched too many aqua-man series.....Water in dreams=a symbol of the subconscious. So if you're breathing underwater, then consider it a good sign.
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Perhaps the Incas figured that by now we would have been smart enough to perfect our own calander. Heck we are going to change over time, eventualy we will have a thirteen mounth system so all the months can have the same amount of days.
Dennis
Dennis
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HealthyLiving: I know there have been several threads in the past, concerning 2012.
I am really currious.
Does anyone here believe it is the time we may enter into another dimension? I believe this is what the Mayans seemed to think, as well as I can interpret it.
Anyone have any ideas?
I am really currious.
Does anyone here believe it is the time we may enter into another dimension? I believe this is what the Mayans seemed to think, as well as I can interpret it.
Anyone have any ideas?
World was predicted to end in the 1800s, the turn of the century in the 1900s, y2k was supposed to end the world in 2000, and now the nxt is 2012.
Man is a doom & gloom species. A good example of this is to look at our news. We report nothing but the gloom & doom of the world. 2012 is but another example of the madness we call the human brain.
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I have enough trouble understanding leap year.
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Some will move with the vibrational shift, and some will be left behind.
Paradigm shift if you will...a new and faster vibration that we are moving into.
Just reporting....you decide. The Force has decided to come back to me tonight.
The universe is a highly complex organism living in many dimensions at the same time, composed of layers and layers of consciousness relating to all other organisms within it. It has the power to create and relate to all of these at the same time individually as in the collective stream. Seems like we are on a collective path of thinking certain things into existence by intent.
Total eclipse of the heart or the sound of your/our soul?
And if you have a tailbone (I don't), shame on you damn you hybrid reptilians/homosapiens.