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Nov 18, 2008 7:22 AM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
HealthyLiving
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Q. The Incan calendar is one of the oldest and most accurate calendars ever devised and it also doesn't go beyond the year 2012. If this is true, could this have any bearing on the next coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?


A. In the light of everything we've said today this is such an important question. I have read the book The Fingerprints of the Gods. It's a tremendous volume and it covers the Inca and Aztec calendars, both ending on December 21st, 2012. Now, what could it mean? When they talk about the end of the world, as far as the Incas and Aztecs are concerned, they don't mean the end of the world because they have five endings and one of them was Noah's experience with the flood. It didn't end the world. Furthermore, the world is never going to end, Isaiah 45:17 and Ephesians 3:21. So what could it mean?

In Matthew 1 verse 17 it lists 42 generations from Abraham to Christ. 42. Historically, that covers 2,160 years. Divide 42 into that number and you come out to 51.4 years. What's the countdown? Jerusalem being taken by the Jews, for Jerusalem starts the seven-year period of tribulation, Daniel 9:24. Add 51.4 to 1967 and you come out to 2018. But I just saw this, this week: you add the extra six months because it happened in June of '67 and the 4/10 and you come out to 2019 and take away the 7 from that and you come out to 2012.


What do you think it means???
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Nov 18, 2008 7:28 AM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
CrosstownTraffic
CrosstownTrafficCrosstownTrafficMalaga, Andalusia Spain3 Threads 732 Posts
HealthyLiving: Q. The Incan calendar is one of the oldest and most accurate calendars ever devised and it also doesn't go beyond the year 2012. If this is true, could this have any bearing on the next coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?A. In the light of everything we've said today this is such an important question. I have read the book The Fingerprints of the Gods. It's a tremendous volume and it covers the Inca and Aztec calendars, both ending on December 21st, 2012. Now, what could it mean? When they talk about the end of the world, as far as the Incas and Aztecs are concerned, they don't mean the end of the world because they have five endings and one of them was Noah's experience with the flood. It didn't end the world. Furthermore, the world is never going to end, Isaiah 45:17 and Ephesians 3:21. So what could it mean?

In Matthew 1 verse 17 it lists 42 generations from Abraham to Christ. 42. Historically, that covers 2,160 years. Divide 42 into that number and you come out to 51.4 years. What's the countdown? Jerusalem being taken by the Jews, for Jerusalem starts the seven-year period of tribulation, Daniel 9:24. Add 51.4 to 1967 and you come out to 2018. But I just saw this, this week: you add the extra six months because it happened in June of '67 and the 4/10 and you come out to 2019 and take away the 7 from that and you come out to 2012.What do you think it means???


What Did they write their calendar on?
I mean if it was on stone and went all the way up to 2012 it would probably have kept pulling the nail out of the wall where they wanted to hang it (probably in the kitchen) if they had tried to add 2013!
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Nov 18, 2008 7:32 AM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
letitroll
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To me it means simply this: A reprieve for Meatloaf, who will finally get his needs fulfilled in the song "Paradise By the Dashboard Lights"laugh



Sorry.....roll eyes



I just couldn't resist......laugh





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Nov 18, 2008 7:33 AM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
rizlared
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I think it means you should ask Father Christmas for a calculator

Oh and a 12 month diary may be useful as well
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Nov 18, 2008 8:00 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
HealthyLiving
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I know there have been several threads in the past, concerning 2012.

I am really currious.

Does anyone here believe it is the time we may enter into another dimension? I believe this is what the Mayans seemed to think, as well as I can interpret it.

Anyone have any ideas?
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Nov 18, 2008 8:05 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
CrosstownTraffic: What Did they write their calendar on?
I mean if it was on stone and went all the way up to 2012 it would probably have kept pulling the nail out of the wall where they wanted to hang it (probably in the kitchen) if they had tried to add 2013!
rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 18, 2008 8:29 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
FYI- you're might wanna check the calendars again



Ancient and religious calendar systems » The Americas » Peru: the Inca calendar

So little is known about the calendar used by the Inca that one can hardly make a statement about it for which a contrary opinion cannot be found. Some workers in the field even assert that there was no formal calendar but only a simple count of lunations. Since no written language was used by the Inca, it is impossible to check contradictory statements made by early colonial chroniclers. It is widely believed that the quipus of the Inca contain calendrical notations, but no satisfactory demonstration of this is possible.
Most historians agree that the Inca had a calendar based on the observation of both the Sun and the Moon, and their relationship to the stars. Names of 12 lunar months are recorded, as well as their association with festivities of the agricultural cycle; but there is no suggestion of the widespread use of a numerical system for counting time, although a quinary decimal system, with names of numbers at least up to 10,000, was used for other purposes. The organization of work on the basis of six weeks of nine days suggests the further possibility of a count by triads that could result in a formal month of 30 days
A count of this sort was described by Alexander von Humboldt for a Chibcha tribe living outside of the Inca Empire, in the mountainous region of Colombia. The description is based on an earlier manuscript by a village priest, and one authority has dismissed it as “wholly imaginary,” but this is not necessarily the case.

The smallest unit of this calendar was a numerical count of three days, which, interacting with a similar count of 10 days, formed a standard 30-day “month.” Every third year was made up of 13 moons, the others having 12.
This formed a cycle of 37 moons, and 20 of these cycles made up a period of 60 years, which was subdivided into four parts and could be multiplied by 100. A period of 20 months is also mentioned. Although the account of the Chibcha system cannot be accepted at face value, if there is any truth in it at all it is suggestive of devices that may have been used also by the Inca.
In one account, it is said that the Inca Viracocha established a year of 12 months, each beginning with the New Moon, and that his successor, Pachacuti, finding confusion in regard to the year, built the sun towers in order to keep a check on the calendar. Since Pachacuti reigned less than a century before the conquest, it may be that the contradictions and the meagreness of information on the Inca calendar are due to the fact that the system was still in the process of being revised when the Spaniards first arrived.
Despite the uncertainties, further research has made it clear that at least at Cuzco, the capital city of the Inca, there was an official calendar of the sidereal–lunar type, based on the sidereal month of 27 1/3 days. It consisted of 328 nights (12 × 27 1/3) and began on June 8/9, coinciding with the heliacal rising (the rising just after sunset) of the Pleiades; it ended on the first Full Moon after the June solstice (the winter solstice for the Southern Hemisphere).
This sidereal–lunar calendar fell short of the solar year by 37 days, which consequently were intercalated. This intercalation, and thus the place of the sidereal–lunar within the solar year, was fixed by following the cycle of the Sun as it “strengthened” to summer (December) solstice and “weakened” afterward, and by noting a similar cycle in the visibility of the Pleiades.
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Nov 18, 2008 8:39 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
jpunk
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HealthyLiving: Q. The Incan calendar is one of the oldest and most accurate calendars ever devised and it also doesn't go beyond the year 2012. If this is true, could this have any bearing on the next coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?A. In the light of everything we've said today this is such an important question. I have read the book The Fingerprints of the Gods. It's a tremendous volume and it covers the Inca and Aztec calendars, both ending on December 21st, 2012. Now, what could it mean? When they talk about the end of the world, as far as the Incas and Aztecs are concerned, they don't mean the end of the world because they have five endings and one of them was Noah's experience with the flood. It didn't end the world. Furthermore, the world is never going to end, Isaiah 45:17 and Ephesians 3:21. So what could it mean?

In Matthew 1 verse 17 it lists 42 generations from Abraham to Christ. 42. Historically, that covers 2,160 years. Divide 42 into that number and you come out to 51.4 years. What's the countdown? Jerusalem being taken by the Jews, for Jerusalem starts the seven-year period of tribulation, Daniel 9:24. Add 51.4 to 1967 and you come out to 2018. But I just saw this, this week: you add the extra six months because it happened in June of '67 and the 4/10 and you come out to 2019 and take away the 7 from that and you come out to 2012.What do you think it means???


Divide by this, add that blah blah blah.... Nah, don't buy it!!!!

This is pure '87 Marillion - CLUTCHING AT STRAWS!!!
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Nov 18, 2008 8:49 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
The Religion and Spirituality of the Incas
Spirits and Gods are Intimately Tied to Time, Space and Nature

© Colin Forsyth


Aug 6, 2008
Machu Picchu, SQUAIO


To Andean people before the Conquest, rocks, mountains and streams were hardly inanimate objects, but vibrant living spirits.

For the Incas, the entire world was imbued with spiritual qualities. In Tiwantinsuyu, the Inca Empire, daily life depended on maintaining harmony with a variety of deities. Successful harvests, and thus life itself, depended on the good will of the god Inti, the Sun, and his wife Mama-Killa, the Moon. Another god, Illapa, ruled the sky and brought rain. Crops also depended on Pacha-mama, the goddess of the Earth, and Mama-cocha, the goddess of rivers, streams and the sea. Even the stars were gods and cared for the plants and animals. The power of all these gods and goddesses ultimately came from one Supreme Creator, Viracocha.

Spirits and Amulets

While the Incas worshipped a diverse pantheon of gods, they also believed that spiritual power could reside in specific places or objects. In the spiritual world of the Incas, natural formations like rivers, springs and mountains were themselves spirits, or huacas. Yet huacas did not only reside in geographic features. Some inhabited special amulets that could be worn around the neck, allowing the wearer to transport the powers of the huaca.

Inca Mummies

Some of the most important huacas were the mummified remains of dead emperors. The Incas seem to have used special herbs to preserve the remains of dead royalty, and the cold, dry climate of much of the Inca realm served to slow the process of decomposition. After death, the ruler's mummy resided in the palace where he had ruled in life, surrounded by his extended family, or ayllu, and his servants. For this reason, each new Inca ruler had to construct a new palace, while the estates of former emperors continued to function. In fact, Machu Picchu may have belonged to the estate of the deceased emperor Pachacuti. During special festivals, the Incas often brought the mummies outside to participate in special rituals. Thus, the ruler remained alive in the sense that he continued to participate in economic and religious life.

The Spiritual Significance of the Inca Calendar


The Incas shaped their conceptualization of space and time around huacas. They believed that a series of straight lines emanated from the capital city of Cuzco, like spokes on a wheel. Along these spokes rested 385 of the most important huacas, each of which usually had a shrine and an official attendant. Also, each of the 328 days on the Inca ceremonial calendar corresponded to a specific huaca. A distinguished ayllu (extended family group) cared for each huaca and organized the proper rituals on its specific day.


(Cont'd)....wine
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Nov 18, 2008 8:49 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Sacrifice in Inca Religion

The Incas and their subjects made sacrifices to huacas: usually llamas, guinea pigs, food and coca. Sometimes adherents would burn fine cloth or offer seashells, gold or silver. On rare occasions, and usually only for the most important events such as wars and coronations, a child might be sacrificed. However, human sacrifice did not occur on the same scale as in the Aztec Empire.

Many of the Incas’ spiritual beliefs came from other Andean peoples, and some are probably very ancient. Even today, half a millennia after the conquest of Peru and the imposition of Christianity, many people in the Andes continue to honor huacas and pray to the Pacha-mama.


No I don't believe that it has anything to do with the end of the world...or has any significance at all to the year 2012...but was based on a 328 day cycle...representing their own huacas.


they also believed that spiritual power could reside in specific places or objects. In the spiritual world of the Incas, natural formations like rivers, springs and mountains were themselves spirits, or huacas. Yet huacas did not only reside in geographic features. Some inhabited special amulets that could be worn around the neck, allowing the wearer to transport the powers of the huaca.




wine
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Nov 18, 2008 9:03 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
The guys who created most of the hoopla around the 2012 calander are supisiciously linked to the same guys who brought us all the 911 hoopla,the terrorist hoopla etc.

As a scientific find its amazing and translating the glyphs is well done.

However like Stitchin and his work on the Sumerian cuniforms, the translations are great, but when these guys start filling in empty space that aren't there with there conjecture, I tend to stop reading.

One thing I learned beng an artist, was that people always read things into my work that never entered my mind when I did the work. People like to make their own things up. I was just .... painting cuz I like to.

Imagine a creative type cave man/woman one day feeling the urge to scratch an elk on the cave wall. He just found a new sharp rock, so he wants to use it right away...Thousands of years later along comes this archeology guy who stares at it and starts up some mind boggling theory about cave men idolizing elk. doh

I'm tellin ya, he was just feeling creative and wanted something to do!! It was just a farkin elk to him!!

doh



yay
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Nov 18, 2008 9:28 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
HealthyLiving
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In light of this, do you think they will try to pull this off in 2012?
That they are setting us up with the propaganda of the hooplas?
Could very well be...

Anyone else think this to be true?
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Nov 18, 2008 9:31 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
HealthyLiving: In light of this, do you think they will try to pull this off in 2012?
That they are setting us up with the propaganda of the hooplas?
Could very well be...

Anyone else think this to be true?
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing .........NO...........professor
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Nov 18, 2008 9:32 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
HealthyLiving
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Thanks Hugz for all you have shared on the Incas beliefs.

I have not read up on the Incas at all.

I have studied some on Mayans, mostly their culture and the destruction brought on them by Cortez and his men.

I have read also that the Chinese calendar ends in 2012.
Anyone know if there is any truth to it?
The Chinese are still here, are they talking about it?
Or is it propaganda also?
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Nov 18, 2008 9:34 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
HealthyLiving
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jlw45: .........NO...........


Joel, you added the Professor to your comment of NO...

Why do you think not?
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Nov 18, 2008 9:35 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
HealthyLiving: I have read about what you have written here, Al. Something about Halographing Jesus' return to win the masses to their made up god.
I for one, will not believe it when it happens!

Thank you for posting this!


If they manage to pull it off HL, the new world order will be complete, Belief may become secondary to coercion.

Actually they can do better than halograms, plastic surgery, sighitngs, well trained godspeak, TV appearances... the psycho babble prelude is already there ... the lemmings will lap it up.. Christians will be unsuffereable. blah blah blah blah blah blah

I wonder who will play the anti christ?


jaw drop angel
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Nov 18, 2008 9:36 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
HealthyLiving: Thanks Hugz for all you have shared on the Incas beliefs.

I have not read up on the Incas at all.

I have studied some on Mayans, mostly their culture and the destruction brought on them by Cortez and his men.

I have read also that the Chinese calendar ends in 2012.
Anyone know if there is any truth to it?
The Chinese are still here, are they talking about it?
Or is it propaganda also?



There is an Inca calendar so I wasn't sure if you meant the Mayan calendar or the Inca calendar!!!!!!





wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet
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Nov 18, 2008 9:41 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
HealthyLiving: In light of this, do you think they will try to pull this off in 2012?
That they are setting us up with the propaganda of the hooplas?
Could very well be...

Anyone else think this to be true?


thumbs up

check out my thread page 4 ... there are 3 separate posts by Skybow ... I was asking if anyone was aware of why the US was really protecting Isreal. They're not btw..






the stage is being set.
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Nov 18, 2008 9:45 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
StressFree
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HealthyLiving: What do you think it means???


Supposedly a dimensional shift according to the Mayans...A new earth according to the bible (Rev. 21-22)

Some will move with the vibrational shift, and some will be left behind.

Paradigm shift if you will...a new and faster vibration that we are moving into.

Just reporting....you decide. The Force has decided to come back to me tonight.yay

The universe is a highly complex organism living in many dimensions at the same time, composed of layers and layers of consciousness relating to all other organisms within it. It has the power to create and relate to all of these at the same time individually as in the collective stream. Seems like we are on a collective path of thinking certain things into existence by intent.hmmm
Total eclipse of the heart or the sound of your/our soul?hmmm

And if you have a tailbone (I don't), shame on youscold damn you hybrid reptilians/homo




















sapiens.giggle
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Nov 18, 2008 9:50 PM CST Explaination Of The Inca Calendar Dates
HealthyLiving
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Hugz_n_Kissez: There is an Inca calendar so I wasn't sure if you meant the Mayan calendar or the Inca calendar!!!!!!


Well, I wasn't sure either!!!laugh

I received this in an email and thought it would be interesting to post, since I had not heard of the Incan calendar. Actually, I thought they were mistaken and I changed it to Mayan, but changed it back to Incan before posting it. Thanks for researching it for us!!hug
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