Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist? ( Archived) (131)

Feb 22, 2009 6:16 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
This topic grew out of another thread so I thought it deserved its own. What do you think? Be sure to provide supportive evidence as you might be required to cite sources if you utilize quotes.
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Feb 22, 2009 6:57 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
In response to: This topic grew out of another thread so I thought it deserved its own. What do you think? Be sure to provide supportive evidence as you might be required to cite sources if you utilize quotes.


From what I understand he was possibly a Pantheist I heard quite a while ago that he is quoted as saying "God doesn't play dice with the universe".
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Feb 22, 2009 7:04 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Interesting! I have heard something along those lines also. Pantheism is not a "religion" but more of a philosophy that many religions have adopted. It does seem to make the most sense in many ways.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:15 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
And is this going to change the price of tea in China?confused
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Feb 22, 2009 7:17 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: And is this going to change the price of tea in China?


Is any thread on here going to do that? No one is forcing you to participate on this site.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:24 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
krimsa: This topic grew out of another thread so I thought it deserved its own. What do you think? Be sure to provide supportive evidence as you might be required to cite sources if you utilize quotes.


Einstein had a solid belief in God. His theory on evolution came from his studies of nature. That is one reason I say God used the process of evolution to create.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:26 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
buzzy: Einstein had a solid belief in God. His theory on evolution came from his studies of nature. That is one reason I say God used the process of evolution to create.


Do you have any basis to place this on or just a personal feeling?
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Feb 22, 2009 7:30 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa: Interesting! I have heard something along those lines also. Pantheism is not a "religion" but more of a philosophy that many religions have adopted. It does seem to make the most sense in many ways.



Hmm well Philosophies and religions sometimes get mixed together. If you think about it I guess an earth religion would be Wicca or maybe a believe that Mother Earth or "Gaea" (spelling) is a living entity and to be worshiped in a sense. It wouldn't surprise me if Einstein was a Deist many of the greats that founded America were. I would be surprised with his knowledge of Physics if he was an Atheist.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:35 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Dawn7z: Hmm well Philosophies and religions sometimes get mixed together. If you think about it I guess an earth religion would be Wicca or maybe a believe that Mother Earth or "Gaea" (spelling) is a living entity and to be worshiped in a sense. It wouldn't surprise me if Einstein was a Deist many of the greats that founded America were. I would be surprised with his knowledge of Physics if he was an Atheist.


True. Pantheism is just a philosophy but its found its way into any number of religous faiths. Its the view that everything is part of an all-encompassing immanent abstract God. I was just thinking that it's similar to the understanding of god found in Deism. You are also right that this country (the United States) was founded by Deists and not Christians. Thats another thread. professor laugh
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Feb 22, 2009 7:45 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
krimsa: Do you have any basis to place this on or just a personal feeling?


Yes, Discover mag recently dedicated two issues to Einstein. In one of those articles it went into his beliefs.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:47 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Well if you can find something online, then that would be helpful.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:50 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
Go to Discover.com and research their archives for Discover magizines.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:54 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Alright I will see what I can find. I will just do a search for "Einstein." so it pulls up everything.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:54 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
krimsa: This topic grew out of another thread so I thought it deserved its own. What do you think? Be sure to provide supportive evidence as you might be required to cite sources if you utilize quotes.


I think he was a christian
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Feb 22, 2009 7:55 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
"Discover" is a credit card. Did you mean the "Discovery Channel"?
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Feb 22, 2009 7:56 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
buzzy
buzzybuzzybiddeford, Maine USA24 Threads 1,492 Posts
krimsa: Alright I will see what I can find. I will just do a search for "Einstein." so it pulls up everything.


I stand corrected, he ws agnostic.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:56 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Einstein was neither a Theist nor an Atheist:

“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

Albert Einstein, in a letter March 24, 1954; from Albert Einstein the Human Side, Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, eds., Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1981, p. 43.




“My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment.”

Albert Einstein in a letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215; from Alice Calaprice, ed., The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 2000, p. 216.
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Feb 22, 2009 7:56 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
mrali: I think he was a christian


That you would need to substantiate with credible evidence. Seeing as he was a Jewish man....rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 22, 2009 7:58 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
mrali
mralimralikarachi, Sindh Pakistan16 Threads 763 Posts
krimsa: That you would need to substantiate with credible evidence. Seeing as he was a Jewish man....


May be ,i dont know about him
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Feb 22, 2009 8:01 AM CST Was Albert Einstein a Theist or an Atheist?
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
buzzy: I stand corrected, he ws agnostic.


That was what I thought also. wink Although if you look at some of his writings, he seems to wobble on his "faith" at different points in his life. He sounds almost like an Atheist condemning the belief in a god or supernatural creator as foolish and other times he lightens up. Certainly not uncharacteristic for a scientist.
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