druidess6308: I would say it's more directly linked to metaphysics, but otherwise agree. And yes, it spans more than one lifetime. We can come into one life with a karmic debt to clear from another, or the need to relive a previous life because we didn't accomplish all that we needed to the last time we lived it. All I can say, Vinny, is that I believe this because of my own experiences and because it resonates as truth in my soul. To each their own beliefs regarding this, as all else.
SF mentioned something similar earlier, and I really find the whole thing fascinating D.........
I need to do my own research I think to learn more about it as I still haven't replied to SF.......
Scuba mentioned it earlier and its something I think I'm understanding more, but before this thread started I thought there was more evidence for Religion, in whatever form and I could not understand why someone believed in Karma when it required a blind faith............After reading up there is so much more than I thought on this subject and enjoyin the ride.....
StressFree: Karma is the same concept that the Judeo-Christian-Islam school of thought for sinning or doing good deeds. You do good, you are blessed and good things happen to you. You commit bad deeds and sin, you are punished. That simple.
Before I go on, let me just clarify that your Karma can be measured scientifically, just not yet. Quantum physics is still working on measuring our energy inside our bodies, and that energy is vibrating at a certain frequency. They are barely in the infancy stage. But they will soon find out how are energy transits to other existences dictated by a karmic energy. It's like a satellite, the satellite can only tune into the frequencies that it is programmed to according to what information it contains and what channels it can attract.So depending on your karma today and when you die, that Karma is attracted to similar vibrational frequencies. So what your energy and karma projects, simply attracts to your corresponding karmic vibrational frequencies.
Personally, I feel the main reason we are here is to learn lessons and manipulate energy so that we create and manifest our reality in order to be happy and harmonic in the name of love, despite the negativity that saturates our world and personal universe. Wisdom, understanding, unconditional love and evolving out of the world's negativity is what speeds up our vibration and enables us to escape the viscious cycles here in this astral plane of existence. Then supposedly we go to a higher plane of existence and eventually back with the source/light energy (Nirvana or Heaven) dependiing on which religous branch you choose, but it's the same only defined differently.
However, with every good thing that comes, don't be surprised with the bad things that come. Balance (Yin-Yang) is inevitable.
According to mainstream Hindu religious thought, the individual soul is trapped in the suffering involved with life in this world, and because of reincarnation, even death does not release one from this world. In most of the religious traditions of southern Asia, release or liberation from the cycle of death and rebirth is the ultimate goal of the spiritual life. But how? It is to master your thoughts by using many tools to manipulate your energy and create a karma that will speed up your vibration. The teachings preached in all the religions, psychologies(analytical) or self help-new age books are tools to help you understand yourself, others, the world so you can love yourself, others and find happiness. In essence, giving you the power to not take anything personal which would give you a very negative energy....and negative energy is what builds bad thoughts and actions.....bad karma.
The objective with Karma is to reach a level of vibration that would be far beyond the fifth dimension. To work out all karma that would need to be worked through. So when you get to that level of vibration there is no karma.
We don't die, just transit, and we may decide to come back into physical form because the earthly experience is very vibrant and unique. However, getting caught up in karma usually happens again, so therefore, one may be stuck in the painful cycle of trying to work out karma here in this vibrational plane. The majority of people on Earth, when they die and leave the body, are working out problems in karma, so they have to keep going back and forth. There are exceptions....different entities containing different energies on a different vibrational level, yet they are still able to tune into our astral plane of existence.
SF I'm not ignorin this but am havin problems understandin it..... .........Need to read up a lot more on this subject I think............
Ta for your post and I hope to have an intelligent response for you soon.......
krimsa: My understanding of Karma is that it originates in ancient Indian Sanskrit so it predates Christianity, Islam or Judaism. The word Karma translates to "action" or "deed" and is essentially bound up in cause and effect. I don’t believe that we inherit the "bad karma" of past lives. The law of Karma simply creates accountability for past, present, and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain and joy it brings to him/her and others. So in other words, actions will have consequences both good and bad.
druidess6308: I would say it's more directly linked to metaphysics, but otherwise agree. And yes, it spans more than one lifetime. We can come into one life with a karmic debt to clear from another, or the need to relive a previous life because we didn't accomplish all that we needed to the last time we lived it. All I can say, Vinny, is that I believe this because of my own experiences and because it resonates as truth in my soul. To each their own beliefs regarding this, as all else.
Well put druidess
vinny1967: SF I'm not ignorin this but am havin problems understandin it..... .........Need to read up a lot more on this subject I think............
Ta for your post and I hope to have an intelligent response for you soon.......
Don't worry about it Vinny. No need to put pressure on yourself now. If you are really curious about karma from every angle, then search is always your friend.
I've read some really interesting angles on karma...angles very far from the western view of karma. I'll brush up on it maybe and add more to this thread.
It's not as simple as do good get good type of thing. In Yoga teachings it is suggested to avoid creating Karma all together. To remain neutral. And yes, it is religious teachings with strong Buddhists roots.
Yeah I have read a little about it. Its basically if you think about something enough you can make it happen..... Mind over matter.............
Well yeah that’s it in very simplified terms. I understand what karma is only because I have an interest in ancient civilizations and cultures but I tend to place more actual stock on the LOA. Just because the physics behind it make more sense to me. I guess I shoud start another thread about it but not tonight.
krimsa: Well yeah that’s it in very simplified terms. I understand what karma is only because I have an interest in ancient civilizations and cultures but I tend to place more actual stock on the LOA. Just because the physics behind it make more sense to me. I guess I shoud start another thread about it but not tonight.
Well it seems I have a lot of reading to do.
And I understand what your saying in so far as it fills in a lot of blanks when it comes to the unexplainable.
Easier said than done. It takes a lot of effort to hone this skill. It's not overnight thing. A lot of channels have to be cleared before it happens, and you cannot give up on the thought because if you do, that positive thoughts will die and attract whatever opposite negative thought that might have replaced it.
I am a firm believer of karma though I would term it more in the ways of "The Secret" in that it is a result of the energies we both transmit and 'tune into' I would also agree that it has a relation to physics in the sense that it is an energy from our bodies frequencies and how we keep them.
The reason I believe so strongly in it is that I have experienced it in my life and was shown by my father long ago how it worked for and against him and have practiced it as much as possible ever since.
The most difficult thing I had to overcome with it was simply the ability to see how something that I felt was bad or made me feel badly etc was actually a positive event in my life so that I could maintain the positive views I hold.
I have lived in the wind so to speak more then once in my life. I moved away from my home town at 18 and went from MT to MN with only 12 dollars left to my name and not knowing a soul in MN, I moved simply because I felt it was what I should do, I moved to MN because it is as far as my money would get me on the bus. I slept that night in a bus station and the next day went to Godfather's pizza (they sold by the slice) got a job and an appartment that day.
I could share many other stories that are the same from just my life and tons more from my fathers life. I simply do my very best to never doubt that what I am doing is the right thing and trust that inner vibration that says do this now or dont do this yet etc. So far, I have had one great life!!
Just thought I would share my answer and some of the 'why' too.
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SF mentioned something similar earlier, and I really find the whole thing fascinating D.........
I need to do my own research I think to learn more about it as I still haven't replied to SF.......
Scuba mentioned it earlier and its something I think I'm understanding more, but before this thread started I thought there was more evidence for Religion, in whatever form and I could not understand why someone believed in Karma when it required a blind faith............After reading up there is so much more than I thought on this subject and enjoyin the ride.....
Ta D............