since aparheid ended in 1994 we have seen a change brought on by iconic pressident nelson mandela but is rightious rule was short lived. sadly the later presidents turned into racist oppresors turning to comunist and facist ideals, following in the footsteps of mugabe and idiamin.
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lindz29: ha ha yes that makes sence read the book in school ;)
Couple white guys here came from there. One was a chopper pilot who had his own business and had to leave as it became impossible to operate there cause he couldn't rely on refueling. Sold everything at a huge loss and came here and flies for an oilfield company but, his life is simpler. His dad and mom still live there though but don' have to do business.
Other than that I don't know a lot. I think the way things were going with the whites in charge was bull but, don't think the way things changed was any better. It seems your country is so used to caste in some form that defined levels of people are the norm. Is that correct?
Myself, I know little of SA so please, educate me.
I hear they intend to create several gated semi-autonomous national homelands...one for whites, another for Indians, another for Chinese, etc.
That way everybody will be happy in their own little cultural bubble.
And as a longterm solution, a project of universal racial homogenization is already in the development stage. Over a period of several generations the gene pool of all the various homeland populations will be systematically Africanized, thereby erasing those troublesome physical differences that cause all the problems.
I hear they intend to create several gated semi-autonomous national homelands...one for whites, another for Indians, another for Chinese, etc.
That way everybody will be happy in their own little cultural bubble.
And as a longterm solution, a project of universal racial homogenization is already in the development stage. Over a period of several generations the gene pool of all the various homeland populations will be systematically Africanized, thereby erasing those troublesome physical differences that cause all the problems.
Nessa7: So did my family and their family before that .... That's the same request the millions of oppressed longed for during the apartheid ..... We are have a country which we call home .... Having a culture is a bonus .....
Ok how do I say this .... Hmm let me put it this way .... We hate what is happening to us right but again I will say we are not the only ones ... The black Africans are suffering themselves to a much more extreme state ... Just think you are not alone ... There are millions suffering in different ways ... Not the same as you or me some much worse be it black, white, coloured and Asians ..... The pain and suffering has finally reached all races not like during the apartheid times .....
my parents was against apartheid, i wasnt part of it... after 20 years of rule the anc was unable to provide and create they still feel the need to take.
that was the point of this blog not as a pitty party in my honour but rather to point out the sad truth of the injustice where most would rather turn a blind eye and bring apardheid back into play. im not atacking your opinions just stating that they ate incapeble of learning from the past and creating a fair system that benidits all.
lindz29: my parents was against apartheid, i wasnt part of it... after 20 years of rule the anc was unable to provide and create they still feel the need to take.
that was the point of this blog not as a pitty party in my honour but rather to point out the sad truth of the injustice where most would rather turn a blind eye and bring apardheid back into play. im not atacking your opinions just stating that they ate incapeble of learning from the past and creating a fair system that benidits all.
I was not for the apartheid back then and I am not for the new ANC government now ... I actually voted for the Democratic Alliance (DA).... Majority will not want the apartheid back that's for sure ... And we have to be realistic that will never happen in the future .... People are suffering now partially Coz it stripped the country of its wealth before handing it back ..
And had the blacks been able to get a proper education(not just a buntu education where they were taught only to be laborers and nothing more) as to privileged during the apartheid ... Then maybe they would able to make better decisions now ... You need to look at it from their point of view too ....
But this thread at the end of the you have to ask yourself is this thread a Pity Party for the now oppressed or not ....
Nessa7: I was not for the apartheid back then and I am not for the new ANC government now ... I actually voted for the Democratic Alliance (DA).... Majority will not want the apartheid back that's for sure ... And we have to be realistic that will never happen in the future .... People are suffering now partially Coz it stripped the country of its wealth before handing it back ..
And had the blacks been able to get a proper education(not just a buntu education where they were taught only to be laborers and nothing more) as to privileged during the apartheid ... Then maybe they would able to make better decisions now ... You need to look at it from their point of view too .... But this thread at the end of the you have to ask yourself is this thread a Pity Party for the now oppressed or not ....
not "now oppressed" simply oppressed. is oppression in any way shape or form justifieble is genocide in any way shape or form? what are the eliments that play a role in genocide, that might be interesting to see. the systematic redication of a race, culture, language and religion. you dont need to look very hard to see it happening here, there are a dozen unbiased sites that are in agreance to all my above mentioned points. even the eu sighned of on a document brought forward by the afrikaans comunity... 48 members of 16 countries. any person in south africa can paint this witch ever colour they want it will not take away from the truth.
lindz29: not "now oppressed" simply oppressed. is oppression in any way shape or form justifieble is genocide in any way shape or form? what are the eliments that play a role in genocide, that might be interesting to see. the systematic redication of a race, culture, language and religion. you dont need to look very hard to see it happening here, there are a dozen unbiased sites that are in agreance to all my above mentioned points. even the eu sighned of on a document brought forward by the afrikaans comunity... 48 members of 16 countries. any person in south africa can paint this witch ever colour they want it will not take away from the truth.
Which truth is this ...... Oppression during apartheid or oppression after apartheid ????
The thing is the truth on both sides are painful and scaring.... Something that might a lifetime to get over .....
lindz29: yes that makes sence repeat history oppress the next genoration never let the wounds heal.
Who's wounds? .... The oppressed during the apartheid ? .... Should they take it with a pinch of salt ... Brush it off like it never happen????
Then again no one wants history to be repeated but this a phrase that was bound to happen when they tables got turned .... And as I said before there are millions South Africans suffering in all races .... Some just don't like coz they not used to it ....
lindz29: please explain to me what i have sown or what my parents who opposed apartheid has sown?
Did your parents opposed it,in deeds????or in words??? There was a "silence", very small, white minority,who opposed,while in the other hand enjoyed the benefits of apartheid.
Why would I do that? Dealing with individual cases is nothing but minutiae. I'm speaking generally about the Policy of Apartheid that was campaigned and voted in by whites (most Africans were banned from voting correct?).
lindz29: please explain to me what i have sown or what my parents who opposed apartheid has sown?
I think you have done nothing wrong and should not be blamed or victimized for evil aparthied practices. The point is that it is a natural outcome of the evil that was done by the older generations for thier vested interests. And we, the younger generation, have to face the consequences of their bad deeds and have to clean their mess.
MADDOG69: Why would I do that? Dealing with individual cases is nothing but minutiae. I'm speaking generally about the Policy of Apartheid that was campaigned and voted in by whites (most Africans were banned from voting correct?).
You are correct it was whites only that could vote and rule .... We only got our chance was in 1994 when Mandela was finally released from prison .... That was the first multiracial election....
All the problems stem from centuries of accumulated bad Karma. I doubt if there can be any sort of easy solution that will be fair to everybody. There is too much past unfairness hanging in the air.
Somebody above said that individual situations are just minutiae and don't really count considering the huge scale of the problem.
But I think that such problems can only be addressed at the individual level.
There's no way to assure that an entire country or culture changes its attitude and drops its prejudices. But each person, at the individual level can change his thinking and learn the necessary lessons from it all. That may not change the world, but it will change our little corner of the world.
I think the change from apartheid to post apartheid, the understanding and acceptance will take another 46 years if not more .... South Africa is now said to be a rainbow nation .. And I feel it is .. Yet we can't help if the majority are Black African as they are the natural inhabitants of the country ...
Nessa7: "For over 1,000 years before the Dutch arrived, then, Iron Age farmers and Late Stone Age people had been living in close juxtaposition in the interior of southern Africa"
the above link it could help you understand the archaeology of South Africa ....
i was pointing out that not all whites are murderous and what i was explaining is the land was un inhabited except for nomadic tribes and the khoi san who are the true original enhabitants and brought to the point of extinction by europeans and africans alike.
i wasnt debating the fact that a thousand years back the where africans in south africa. i was talking about the 1600's
maxmate1: I think you have done nothing wrong and should not be blamed or victimized for evil aparthied practices. The point is that it is a natural outcome of the evil that was done by the older generations for thier vested interests. And we, the younger generation, have to face the consequences of their bad deeds and have to clean their mess.
You have the Age-Heebie-Jeebies,Son! So far I have seen nothing better from your Generation,so stop blaming the older One,unless you're incapable of thinking for yourself!
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would you say the opressed has now become the opressors in south africa?(Vote Below)
sadly the later presidents turned into racist oppresors turning to comunist and facist ideals, following in the footsteps of mugabe and idiamin.
what is your opinion?