you are fooling yourself it you think bigotry is being abolished...you are only driving it underground....its older than any of us and will out live us all...not passing it on may minimalize it but it will never totally disappear...it will live in one shape or another elsewheres...
Boban1: Well lets see, do you really think that the folks who have the leading roles ,will give up on their positions ??? I don`t think so and as seraphine mentioned "payback" ,it will create more hate and violence ,besides the wealth is moving toward Singapore
if everyone would stop blaming someone else and worry about fixing things we might gain ground...conrad you are oppressing me with those heavy thoughts....lol they are squishing my post...
maxmate1: And thank God, there were good people in the older generation too, alongside the evil ones. They passed on HOPE to the new generation. Martin Luthar King, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, Helen Keller, Florence Nightingale and many many others who inspired positivity and life more than the evil others could stirr.
Well Im not so sure about Mother Teresa and her actions
i agrea with most what you said here but not this bit.
Nessa7: Lindz has made some mocking comments on previous threads about dating people of colour ... And no one is forcing him to date a non white but to accept they are there around him everywhere and he needs to stop feeling so special and accept he is not alone in hardship but its a multiracial thing ... Everybody is going hardship .... And it will take some time South Africa to come right ...
my cousen is married to the most wonderfull black lady on earth, educated with high morrals, interracial mixing is not only a choice to me but it is also about attraction. i am not going to elaborate on this issue tho.
bestbefore: I remember only too well the problems.
Who can forget Steve Biko and Donald Woods, 1 black man, 1 white man who fought the prejudice.
After Steve Biko's death, Woods was hounded and eventually fled to London and published books about this horrendous time.
He was awarded the C.B.E for his efforts on Human Rights.
I also remember the film " Cry the beloved Country" with a young Sidney Poitier
Hi BB great book, superb movie ... I enjoyed it very much ... I have high regard for those legendary people who fought against apartheid than those who enjoyed the benefits ....
Before and during Apartheid, only BLACKs, Coloureds and Indians were being oppressed. Whites of British descent did complain but I didn't hear Afrikaners complain about the negative effects of apartheid on the Blacks, Coloureds, Indians. Now everyone in SA is suffering, not just whiites. I have met here in Canada, Blacks, Whites and Indians who have immigrated to Canada for a more peaceful life. Not everyone can be a Charlize Theron but ....
afrikaans opposition parties who faught to make the world aware of this, leaders inside of the then apartheid party who was ostrisised for opposing apartheid people like my father and his father who opposed it read up on jan christiaan smutses views on apartheid... and like a said a few times yes everyone is suffering but one group in paticular is being singled out.
Before and during Apartheid, only BLACKs, Coloureds and Indians were being oppressed. Whites of British descent did complain but I didn't hear Afrikaners complain about the negative effects of apartheid on the Blacks, Coloureds, Indians. Now everyone in SA is suffering, not just whiites. I have met here in Canada, Blacks, Whites and Indians who have immigrated to Canada for a more peaceful life. Not everyone can be a Charlize Theron but ....
Hi equiya that's is exactly my point on this thread that the suffering is multiracial ... But because some were not victims before they feel they are being victimized now ... If they took the time to look at South Africa as a whole they would notice the suffering has been there from ages ago it only now reached the doors of the so called privileged from back then ...
By the way love your country Canada been there .... And enjoyed it very much ....
About Charlize Theron hmm I have high hopes for daughter lol .... Just got to believe
Nessa7: Hi equiya that's is exactly my point on this thread that the suffering is multiracial ... But because some were not victims before they feel they are being victimized now ... If they took the time to look at South Africa as a whole they would notice the suffering has been there from ages ago it only now reached the doors of the so called privileged from back then ...
By the way love your country Canada been there .... And enjoyed it very much ....
About Charlize Theron hmm I have high hopes for daughter lol .... Just got to believe
So true, all that you say here.
Yes Canada is a GREAT country. I have lived and worked in 6 countries worldwide as an IT Consultant. I was educated in the US, lived and worked in the US, I have family and several friends in the US but I find Canada to be the best country I have ever lived in.
lindz29: nessa you seem to hold on to alot of hatred and grudges.
The fact that I disagree with you does mean I am full of hate and revenge .... It just means I will not support your pity party .... Coz the are all races that are suffering ..
lindz29: no need in bringing the past up to begin the healing prosses, no one needs to suffer. my generation doesnt know apartheid but we have to pay for it it seems.
Well Lindz then you shouldn't have opened a thread that allows the past to come up ...
And yes I do agree let the healing process being ....
Yes Canada is a GREAT country. I have lived and worked in 6 countries worldwide as an IT Consultant. I was educated in the US, lived and worked in the US, I have family and several friends in the US but I find Canada to be the best country I have ever lived in.
Your daughter will reach very high
I have no doubts see will
Yeah I hope to visit again very soon ... Hopefully during winter this time ..... Carry my blanket with lol ...
Nessa7: I have no doubts see will Yeah I hope to visit again very soon ... Hopefully during winter this time ..... Carry my blanket with lol ...
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Please do come and visit our beautiful country again. It's actually only cold here in the winter. However, the winters are long. With the exception of the snow, it's actually not too bad. The sun shines even in the winter though not a warm sunshine. It's warm here now.
SongbirdsMossel Bay, Western Cape South Africa31 posts
I have lived in this country since 1968. Refuse to become a South African Citizen for personal reasons.
To answer you,(this is my personal opinion)I believe that as you sow, so shall you reap. This is a Karmic law and applies to any and every action we take, past, present and future Songbirds
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Nessa7: Hi BB great book, superb movie ... I enjoyed it very much ... I have high regard for those legendary people who fought against apartheid than those who enjoyed the benefits ....
I was 12 when the original came out[it was in black and white] and I wept at the travesty.
Just a small reminder of the other film.Lest we forget.
Nessa7: I have a lot of hope of for a better South Africa scattered because now people are able to work and live in same environment ... ...
People like you and me have hope that one day the entire world will live in peace and harmony and we`re often naive putting our trust in the words of politicians , unfortunately the reality is cruel ... Recently some scripts which have been marked as "top secret" ,have been disclosed in which some "structures or streams" and I would call them scum of civilization ,others would call them rulers from the shadow ,had plans for the downfall of my country back in the 70s .It was a huge surprise for us when it happened in the 90s. The point of my story is , South Africa and multicultural /multiracial /multinational ,diversity and mutual respect of religions...is all a easy target for warmongers and hate planters ...
Boban1: People like you and me have hope that one day the entire world will live in peace and harmony and we`re often naive putting our trust in the words of politicians , unfortunately the reality is cruel ... Recently some scripts which have been marked as "top secret" ,have been disclosed in which some "structures or streams" and I would call them scum of civilization ,others would call them rulers from the shadow ,had plans for the downfall of my country back in the 70s .It was a huge surprise for us when it happened in the 90s. The point of my story is , South Africa and multicultural /multiracial /multinational ,diversity and mutual respect of religions...is all a easy target for warmongers and hate planters ...
I agree and understand what you are saying .. But who what will happen in the future ... I just feel our kids might turn to be good leaders .... Might just get this planet of human beings to get along .. You probably think I have my head in the clouds but I am very positive about the future .. And if we all are then that gives off a very positive energy ...
lindz29: afrikaans opposition parties who faught to make the world aware of this, leaders inside of the then apartheid party who was ostrisised for opposing apartheid people like my father and his father who opposed it read up on jan christiaan smutses views on apartheid... and like a said a few times yes everyone is suffering but one group in paticular is being singled out.
Google and read about Jan Smuts,he tolerated segregation,long before Apartheid Laws came to effect in 1948 by the National Party.-
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Nessa7: I agree and understand what you are saying .. But who what will happen in the future ... b][I just feel our kids might turn to be good leaders .... Might just get this planet of human beings to get along .. You probably think I have my head in the clouds but I am very positive about the future .. And if we all are then that gives off a very positive energy ...
I have children and grandchildren Nessa and I fear for their future as I will be gone, and they will have to face a very unstable World alone.
There is still so much hatred within race that one wonders if there will ever be a united world where people stand shoulder to shoulder in peace.
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